Yes: 50.3%
No: 49.7%
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The main difference is that what I wrote has been largely verified during the entire Switch lifespan, while what you say is mostly wrong.All Playstation games have been cancelled.
See, I can write nonsense too. High five!
Yours bought the system to play Animal Crossing. And it's funny how you pretend like what i said isn't true. The difference between Nintendo that was competing with the rest, and the current one where anything and everything goes is massive, but let's ignore that, it doesn't suit my argument, so we don't talk about it.Your mum says it's bedtime.
Sure, Cyberpunk 2077, Street Fighter 6, Borderlands 4, Star Wars Outlaws, the EA sports stuff.The main difference is that what I wrote has been largely verified during the entire Switch lifespan, while what you say is mostly wrong.
Yours bought the system to play Animal Crossing. And it's funny how you pretend like what i said isn't true. The difference between Nintendo that was competing with the rest, and the current one where anything and everything goes is massive, but let's ignore that, it doesn't suit my argument, so we don't talk about it.
Indeed.Why does there have to be a "war" in the first place, and why must someone "win" it?
At the end of the day, these are corporations aiming for profit. Different business models lead to different financial results. End of story.
The whole "console war" thing is mostly about kids, or adults who haven't quite grown up, needing to justify their purchases by declaring a "winner." That way, they can reassure themselves that they made the "right" choice in picking a particular console or ecosystem.
Honestly, it's pretty pathetic.
NDS is 154 mil, Switch atm 153mNintendo have what will likely be the single best selling SKU family out there (Switch 1), but their issue is they had to retreat towards handheld, they managed to grow that pot really nicely
What advantageous position for moneymaking Nintendo have? They heavily relied on hardware margin for profits and it's gone with Switch2Nintendo have what is simultaneously the most advantageous position in terms of individual moneymaking
You are listing Switch 2 games. So you basically validate my point, as I was talking about Switch 1.Sure, Cyberpunk 2077, Street Fighter 6, Borderlands 4, Star Wars Outlaws, the EA sports stuff.
All missing, except they're not.
You do. Nintendo back in the day, and the current one don't have the same goals, which leads to covering a niche with no, or minmal competition. Since when does a company delivers the best possible product when they're trying their hardest to NOT compete?
You should learn what a hybrid console is.You are listing Switch 2 games. So you basically validate my point, as I was talking about Switch 1.
The first Switch was too weak and didn't receive big third party games, and the few ones were absolutely butchered. Years later, you are finally receiving some ports, and they still run largely below what we had on release date on proper consoles.
Switch 2 will be the same story. Inferior ports until they don't bother porting at all. And we are already seeing this, because current late ports are all PS4 games. As soon as a game will start entirely skipping PS4, they will also skip Switch 2. This is already happening, the vast majority of the big third party games announced this summer are skipping Switch 2.
Examples ?
Silent Hill f
Pragmata
Resident Evil Requiem
Code Vein 2
Ninja Gaiden 4
etc...
Keep your expectations in check.
Hybrid, as in "Not traditional". The very reason why I voted No to the poll.You should learn what a hybrid console is.
Console war ?You posted in another thread "I couldn't care less about Xbox or PS having the most powerful console, since all the games they make suck ass. "
You also don't like any Nintendo games except Metroid
So, if all consoles and console games are shit, why are you in a console war thread?
Nintendo are separate and are not part of the console war. That was between Xbox and PlayStation who were directly competing against each other for the same audience and have pretty much the same library of games. Nintendo have a whole difference audience and library games. They haven't competed against Sony and Microsoft for years.
Just calling a spade a spade.Console war ?![]()
Consoles have to have the exact same games to be competitors?Can you tell me how Nintendo are a competitor to Sony and Microsoft? They don't even have the same games so how can they be? What are they competing in exactly? Do customers need to decide between a switch and a PS5 or Xbox Series for GTA VI? Exactly.
I mean Switch 1 in one gen did what the DS family of devices did in multiple gens.NDS is 154 mil, Switch atm 153m
Where is growth? They just retreated to portable and replicated NDS success
I mean Mario/Zelda etc have never been more lucrative, and those series are Nintendo's bread and butter.What advantageous position for moneymaking Nintendo have? They heavily relied on hardware margin for profits and it's gone with Switch2
Sony has x2 revenue and x3 profit of Nintendo now.
DS is also one gen. If you mean versions - Switch also has 3 versions (NDS had 4)I mean Switch 1 in one gen did what the DS family of devices did in multiple gens.
Is there proof for this?Nintendo reports revenue differently from Sony, they only report their %30 cut as revenue, while Sony reports the full %100.
Is it such a hard ask for ninny to launch proper stationary console that runs all switch1/2 games and is around ps5/xsx power (both launched 4,5 years ago) for 500-600usd/euro?Amazing to read the mental gymnastics some of you are doing to avoid giving the W to Nintendo.
Lol that's my bad, thought that DS figure included the 3DS gens too.DS is also one gen. If you mean versions - Switch also has 3 versions (NDS had 4)
I believe it's true, seen it in multiple places already.Is there proof for this?
It's actually doesn't matter even if true. Nintendo has 80% ratio of 1st party in revenue (those recognized by 100%), so change from 30% to 100% for 3rd party will be only 16% on software revenue. Negligent in the whole picture.
Let's also pretend like the color TV game 15 or the game and watch never existed. Nintendo has been making video game consoles ever since the first generation of gaming back in the 1970s.Lets pretend that handheld consoles never happened…
I don't believe the notion of old executives making harmful choices to the companies for their own benefits like retiring, it just doesn't work these days. As a multi millionaire entrepreneur, I could humbly tell these days Jensen Huang is not that different from the average person.The traditional console war was over long before the warriors fighting it figured it out. It was over 5 years ago. What has been happening for the last 5 years is that hardware manufacturers have been succumbing to their own inability to keep their ecosystem alive with their first party output.
Xbox succumbed first. Their purchase of ABK wasn't a bid to save the Xbox console as some believed. They already knew that was over. It was a play for software revenue. They will continue to sell hardware as a vehicle for Game Pass, which is all their hardware is now.
PlayStation had a longer runway due to their cut of third party, but they would not be able to run PlayStation the way they do today without third party. I'm willing to bet that the reason they're pushing live service so hard is that it gives them a recurring first party software revenue stream that stabilizes them while it takes forever for their single player games to release. They must be able to rely on their own output for long term success, because if third party hits the toilet they're in trouble. So it makes sense they're going to want as wide of a first party sales pipeline as possible. They'll probably also stay cross gen for longer with PS6 because I'm thinking they're going to have a tough time hitting $499 for their next console unless they want to eat losses, so they'll need the PS5 install base for longer.
Nintendo is the only one of the three that has been able to survive mainly on their first party output. That's why they'll be the last to go with a multiplatform strategy. They do get third party revenue from their store, but they're also the only one that can sell 30+ million copies of a single first party title at full price for many years.