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Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth |OT| The Prodigious Mon Returns (Courtesy of a Petition)
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The Shadow Knight
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This guide:
http://www.digimonworld.org/2016/02/a-crash-course-in-cyber-sleuth-metagame.html
contradicts this.
It seems like an obvious error on the guide's part, dealing damage based on your defense makes no sense.
In any case it's pretty easy to test, I'll look into it once I'm home, even though I don't think it's necessary.
Edit: if you keep reading it gets more and more obvious.
The Shadow Knight
Member
With INT being both special offense and defense, it's not out of the question. It might be some weird attempt at balancing.
That or the guide writer done goofed.
I'll set up a test case myself when I get home tonight if you don't beat me to it.
EDIT: This is interesting Reddit post about move description translations
EDIT2: Turns out the above post is by the guide writer...
RadioHeadAche
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I'm still waiting on my Asian vita copy from play Asia. I don't shop there often, but I recall hearing deliveries can take a while. :/
RoaringMdog
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After 105 hours, i finally got my platinum. I got really lucky with my last 2 medals ^.^ Think i'm done with this game for now, i want to come back though and completely fill in the field guide.
This is for sure one of my favourite Vita games, can't remember getting this hooked on a game in a long long time.
This is for sure one of my favourite Vita games, can't remember getting this hooked on a game in a long long time.
Seems like I made a mistake stacking my Mastemon with mostly offensive skills as Lucemon seems to do that job much better.
This happened to me yesterday. I turned on my PSV from sleep mode and accidentally swiped the screen, though I only lost 15 minutes of progress. The problem was that I lost the chrome Digizoid I was grinding for. Luckily I got it again immediately.
This happened to me yesterday. I turned on my PSV from sleep mode and accidentally swiped the screen, though I only lost 15 minutes of progress. The problem was that I lost the chrome Digizoid I was grinding for. Luckily I got it again immediately.
3 hours save restarting trying to get this damn Black Augumon Medal -_-
I have three separate farms running investigations simultaneously. 1 with all ultimate searchers and no sleuths. 1 with all Mega searchers and 5 sleuths and one with rookies with 2 sleuths. Why the hell is this thing so long?!?
I have three separate farms running investigations simultaneously. 1 with all ultimate searchers and no sleuths. 1 with all Mega searchers and 5 sleuths and one with rookies with 2 sleuths. Why the hell is this thing so long?!?
DirgeExtinction
Member
Wow, thanks. I'll try MarineAngemon as well.
Benzychenz
Member
Yep. There's 8 or 9 of em I think
The guide and that post are wrong. Physical piercing attacks use attack. Please do test it yourself.
The Shadow Knight
Member
Will do.
Do piercing attacks have damage ranges? I sure hope not, I don't remember too much about statistical analysis.
I don't really know and I'm about to test this, I'll just take more than one measure to try and account for that.
In any case it won't really matter since I'm not calculating how much the stats impact the damage, I'm just trying to identify which stat impact the damage, which is going to be evident regardless of that with a big enough stat bump.
Yes, they do have a small variance of about 5%. Using a WarGreymon for example against a neutral enemy will allow you to throw on two A level stat boosters which should make it obvious even with the variance though.
The Shadow Knight
Member
Yeah, that should be enough to tell.
I'm looking forward to your results.
RenTargino
Member
I am on chapter 19. I will try to finish the story by tomorrow and begin to work on the platinum. From what I have read, the cups and the DLC quests are hard fights even on normal. I will start to work on Digimon to take on these fights.
I am planning to go with UlforceVeedramom, Lilithmon and Jesmon, from what I have seen here these seems to be very good Digimons for battle.
I am planning to go with UlforceVeedramom, Lilithmon and Jesmon, from what I have seen here these seems to be very good Digimons for battle.
No, that attack says "DEF-penetrating attack, triple Dark damage to one foe" in the NA version which makes perfect sense. That one guide seems to think it uses the DEF stat which isn't true at all though.
Anyways my own results just now since I didn't bother to take notes the last time I did this:
Belphemon RM - 311 ATK, 227 DEF
All testing done against Pabumon in Kowloon lvl 1.
No stat boosts:
1035
1047
1076
20% ATK boost:
1220
1240
1305
20% DEF boost:
1044
1058
1083
After giving the tests even more time than it really needed I can safely say attack determines the damage of physical piercing attacks, just like any other physical attack.
I tested this with my Wargreymon, using brave tornado against the blackgatomon in digital space 1.
The attack deals them double damage because they're virus but the bigger the damage we work with the more noticeable the results are, I also had Blackwargreymon in the party which boosts attack by 15%.
All combos and critical were ignored.
My Wargreymon stats are 236 attack and 203 defense, I tested first without equipment,
then with 2 DEF attach C for +30 DEF and after that I tested the same attack boosts.
In the end I checked for better equipment and some was on sale so I tested again with 2 DEF attach B for +40 in DEF and using a DEF boost that adds 20% DEF during battle, then I swapped the equipment and the boost for the same amount of additional attack.
Without equipment and with defense boosts the damage was always around 1230-1250.
With the first attack boosts I got values around 1350-1450.
In the last case pumping attack to the max I only got one value cause I was already convinced and one of the Gatomon in the last encounter got hit by a combo, the other one received ~1700 damage.
So yeah, the result is pretty clear.
I tested this with my Wargreymon, using brave tornado against the blackgatomon in digital space 1.
The attack deals them double damage because they're virus but the bigger the damage we work with the more noticeable the results are, I also had Blackwargreymon in the party which boosts attack by 15%.
All combos and critical were ignored.
My Wargreymon stats are 236 attack and 203 defense, I tested first without equipment,
then with 2 DEF attach C for +30 DEF and after that I tested the same attack boosts.
In the end I checked for better equipment and some was on sale so I tested again with 2 DEF attach B for +40 in DEF and using a DEF boost that adds 20% DEF during battle, then I swapped the equipment and the boost for the same amount of additional attack.
Without equipment and with defense boosts the damage was always around 1230-1250.
With the first attack boosts I got values around 1350-1450.
In the last case pumping attack to the max I only got one value cause I was already convinced and one of the Gatomon in the last encounter got hit by a combo, the other one received ~1700 damage.
So yeah, the result is pretty clear.
The Shadow Knight
Member
Good work guys, I'll throw my findings in when I get home.
The Artisan
Member
is marineangemon in the game????
The Artisan
Member
The Shadow Knight
Member
Results are in:
My test subject: Lvl 1 Kuwagamon(reset after each battle to keep it lvl 1)
ATK: 90
DEF: 55
Targets: The neutral attribute guys in Digital Space 2
Damage without stat boosts: 88-87-89
This is already very telling given the large difference in Kuwagamon's stats.
Damage with +20% ATK: 111-108-113
The damage increases with attack boosts.
In conclusion, I'm not sure what all the guide writers were smoking.
My test subject: Lvl 1 Kuwagamon(reset after each battle to keep it lvl 1)
ATK: 90
DEF: 55
Targets: The neutral attribute guys in Digital Space 2
Damage without stat boosts: 88-87-89
This is already very telling given the large difference in Kuwagamon's stats.
Damage with +20% ATK: 111-108-113
The damage increases with attack boosts.
In conclusion, I'm not sure what all the guide writers were smoking.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Went at Leviamon again with UlforceVeedramon, WarGreymon, and MarineAngemon. Took on Lilithmon and Barbamon too.
Lilithmon was probably the closest to being a real threat, and even then it wasn't that much of a contest.
Lilithmon was probably the closest to being a real threat, and even then it wasn't that much of a contest.
Benzychenz
Member
Been resetting with 5 seconds left on my farms for over half an hour now and I am convinced the Tactician USB doesn't exist.
You're using the 1,000 yen option, right?
Benzychenz
Member
Fimbulvetr
Member
Beat all the Demon Lords, all 7 Great Challenges, and all but what I think is the final offline tournament.
My only question before I move on to chapter 20 is, should I just go ahead and turn my WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon into Omnimon? I already got Omnimon Zwarte and Great Tornado is too good to give up, but getting Omnimon now just feels right.
My only question before I move on to chapter 20 is, should I just go ahead and turn my WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon into Omnimon? I already got Omnimon Zwarte and Great Tornado is too good to give up, but getting Omnimon now just feels right.
LordSparda
Member
Yeah, another MarineAngemon user!
My normal (pre-great knights) party had Lillithmon, MarineAngemon and Sakuyamon. This team steamrolled EVERYTHING on Hard, it's ridiculous. Sakuyamon is another good member because of her passive INT increase benefits the whole team, and her special attack cancels out stat-boosts that made a number of bosses trivial. Good back-up healer too. I also like it that this party is well-balanced (virus, data and vaccine).
Though once I got Mastemon I switched out MarineAngemon for her light/dark magic damage increase passive and her special attack. She's a good healer as well.
Fimbulvetr
Member
KirbYuuYuu
Member
One of the reasons why I was demoralized trying to do this. And only achieved three fights.
Told ya. MarineAngemon is fucking awesome.
DirgeExtinction
Member
*edit* nvm.
Just saw you're not in chapter 20 yet.
Paper Sparrow
Member
Benzychenz
Member
Got my 1 million yen trophy.
That means it's nearly time to sit at these machines collecting medals.
That means it's nearly time to sit at these machines collecting medals.
Spread the love!
Fuck these moe-blobs. Why do they get to be broken good while more deserving Digimon are left hanging? It's not fair
I haven't tried this but what about getting a whole bunch of BlackAgumon, 10 of them, make them all searchers and continue to look for the quest?
Seems like a fool proof plan >.>