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Digimon 02 is "let's throw shit to a wall and see what sticks" The best villain was Demon, who appeared for a grand total of one episode. And they completely ignore the Cthulhu thing, too.

Doesn't help that the only good characters are Ken, TK and Kari somewhat. Davis is Tai with none of the good and I swear they wanted to make Yolei and Cody unlikable. And what's up with the whole "not killing" bullshit?

At least the music was cool. And most Digimon.

Yeah the dark world thing or whatever it was was supposed to be a full blown story arc but it was cut for some reason. I'm fairly certain it was written by the same guy who did Tamers which explains why it was so dark compared to the rest of S2.

But yeah Ken, TK, and Kari are the only ones I actually like. Davis is annoying as hell the first half but becomes better once he and Ken become friends. And Cody and Yolei are just fucking annoying the whole time.
 
Been months since the thread, guess there are no Digimon fans?

Anyway have been continuing through my first run of these Digimon series with Digimon Adventure season 2.

Digimon Adventure Season 2 Episodes 8 - 21
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Why cant Magnamon be one of the permanent digimon in their arsenal. Whole Golden Armor Digivolution and his presence was as epic and awesome as Angemon's first appearance in season 1. Magnamon is truly one of the best digimon there is and truly deserves more. Excellent addition to Davis's collection. Truly he is on TK's tier of best character and best digimon. For Ken
so sad that he lost after all he went through and even losing Wormon. Why?! Even with a crest too :( Hopefully he learns kindness and embraces it more or gets back involved in the plot, will miss him if he's gone as he and TK had great moments too, like their little fistfight.

The digirap is awful and needs to never be used, why was it even an ending theme substitution at times :(
 
DTL all I'm going to say is I think you'll be pleased with what happens with Ken.

As for the rest of 02 I can't really say. IMO it really starts going downhill around where you are. Not to set you up for disappointment but...it has probably the worst climax/final arc of all of the seasons, at least in my opinion.
 
Finished
Digimon Adventure 2 (22 - 50 end) (dvd)
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First half of the anime and then the last seven episodes were the best. The middle episodes, or rather everything with Arukenimon and all that world traveling just felt awful, or maybe better words would be unfocused. I guess it was just way too much.
Expanding the digi destined to such huge numbers made it feel less special and then it spread the cast out too much diluting the potential that could be unlocked from having them all together with good interactions, though they did still focus on some during that whole arc once they stayed in the world as a whole and had the Black Wargreymon plot going, specifically TK and Cody stuff was really well done, and then Ken's struggle and black thing within him

Imperialdramon (fighter mode), Magnamon, Magnaangemon, for best digimon as a whole, Ken, TK, Davis for the best characters of season 2, and of course faves to Matt/Tai. Ken as Dark Emperor was really good and his whole plot and all he went through will be memorable.

I hope Digimon Tamer's improves upon the formula and is a solid blast all the way through. DVD release in May, I think.
 
When I was younger, digimon designs has always seem seems to be perfect mix of grotesque and elegance. I honestly can't remember when I stopped watch watching both Pokemon and Digimon. Think I stopped at Season 5 for Digimon which was at least a few years ago.

Anyway, season 1 aka Digimon Adventure has my favourite soundtrack in the series. The definitive version of Butterfly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xAueTwJFV4
 
I wonder how Kouji Wada is doing. He stopped doing songs right after Death Generals, with his last song being We Are Xros Heart ver. x7. Has cancer problems, I hope he gets well. :/
 
HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS

Netflix added the first Digimon series for streaming :O
I havent seen the first season in over 10 years. I've never seen season 1 in Japanese. It's....really good. The music is great, it's insane how the tone is so much more serious. So good! Thank you, Netflix.

Fuck that US dub noise, was a wasted opportunity. I'm shocked I was able to enjoy that shit at all when I was younger
 
I havent seen the first season in over 10 years. I've never seen season 1 in Japanese. It's....really good. The music is great, it's insane how the tone is so much more serious. So good! Thank you, Netflix.

Fuck that US dub noise, was a wasted opportunity. I'm shocked I was able to enjoy that shit at all when I was younger

Yeah I tried watching the US dub... I guess I understand they dubbed it for kids, but jeez with some of the dialog. Tried watching Japanese version on Netflix as well but the subtitles are sometimes just complete gibberish and I can't really get into it. I'll try again soon, though.
 
Just started watching Digimon Adventure subbed on Netflix as well.

Holy crap, I knew the evolution and opening songs were excellent but the OST in general is just astounding.
 
Yeah I tried watching the US dub... I guess I understand they dubbed it for kids, but jeez with some of the dialog. Tried watching Japanese version on Netflix as well but the subtitles are sometimes just complete gibberish and I can't really get into it. I'll try again soon, though.
Really? Huh, I didn't think so.

It's awesome how much the early episodes are about the kids barely scraping by in this harsh, unknown and untamed world. It portrays champion digmon like wild animals, not good or evil (which changes, obviously) just trying to survive. It's great stuff. I kinda wish Tamers had more closely followed that representation of the digital world. The digital world felt pretty sterlie and lifeless in season 3 IMO
 
Love the original Digimon. Used to rush home from school to watch it. Got so into it, I had created my own website and stuff, would chat with other folks.

My memory is starting to fade me now, but I still remember how it started, who the major 'bosses' were, all the digivolutions, and then the new season when there's a new cast and they're all older.

My love for Digimon really started when I bought the toy. I remember getting a detention once when I was randomly checking and saw my greymon had digivolved into like metal greymon. I foolishly battled with him with everyone and he died the very same day.
 
So a few weeks ago, my friend's bachelor party degraded into watching the first season of Digimon on Netflix. We decided to skip to the last few episode, and the show didn't hold up at all. That horrible dialogue. :-(
 
I haven't watched the most recent 2 seasons. (Data Squad and Xros Wars I think are the names?) but I did watch 1,2,3 and Frontier

Surprised with the hate Season 2 gets. As a little kid I loved it and thought the new armor digivolving and fusion stuff was awesome. My opinion might change if I watched it again but if I had to rank them by pure enjoyment when I was a kid...

Season 3, Season 2, Season 1, and Frontier. Though personally the ranking means nothing because I enjoyed all 4 of them deeply. Terriermon in Tamers was my favorite.
 
I wasn't aware of how the US version of Digimon (Adventure and 02, but I guess all seasons) was so sullied in comparison to what the original version is. But I mean, terribly. The version aired in my country was faithful to the original version (music, dialogue, everything) and it was a complete shock to me when I watched a couple of episodes of the American version and realized not only that the soundtrack was changed (with music not even close in quality to the original soundtrack) but also that the dialogues were all changed and made more childish (not to mention all the cut scenes).

Can someone explain the reasons for all this?
 
I wasn't aware of how the US version of Digimon (Adventure and 02, but I guess all seasons) was so sullied in comparison to what the original version is. But I mean, terribly. The version aired in my country was faithful to the original version (music, dialogue, everything) and it was a complete shock to me when I watched a couple of episodes of the American version and realized not only that the soundtrack was changed (with music not even close in quality to the original soundtrack) but also that the dialogues were all changed and made more childish (not to mention all the cut scenes).

Can someone explain the reasons for all this?

Dubs, especially during the early days (well, 90s), had a need to insert "comedy" into every place they could think of. Digimon is notoriously bad for this because there's so many scenes where you can't see anyone actually talking that the writers could fill it with extra jokes. I think the American dubbers just, well, think kids will get bored. Personally I enjoyed Digimon as a child, but watching the dub as an older teen, and now an adult, I realized how cheesy the writing was which is a shame because I'm watching the sub now, and the show holds up pretty well writing wise.

The animation, however, is just...horrible. So many off-model scenes, weird cuts in the action, stilted movement, it's unfortunate that Digimon was one of the first shows to be subjected to the rather awkward "digital style", which is funny because as a kid I was excited since it looked newer than Pokemon which didn't switch to the digital drawing till much later. Think about how Digimon would've looked if it was animated in the traditional style, I imagine it'd hold up better.

EDIT: Why aren't any of the Digimon World games up on the PSN store? I'm having a Digimon Nostalgia trip this week. I even found my old 02/Frontier Digivice games which still are on.
 
Rewatched the ending of 02 but in Japanese.

Not as bad as I remembered it as a kid, it helps that the music is better here too. Moving on to Tamers now since unlike Adventure and 02 I never actually seen all the episodes of it yet.
 
I think Digimon Adventure is full of neat design work, especially the unusual look they gave the backgrounds in the Digital World. But it's a shame the series was so low budget in the animation department, I can only imagine how impressive the fight scenes could have been with all the variety of monsters, instead of the very static stock footage you get.
 
Just finished rewatching most of Season 4 since I only ever saw about half of it (where they were in the giant maze). Most of my problems with it are nitpicks but I have a bunch of them. Every new digimon after
burninggreymon
was a disappointment for me and
magnagurumon
bothered the fuck out of me for some reason because he wasn't symmetrical. Also didn't like how they named some of the evolutions after older digimon (
burninggreymon
bothered me the most because he looks nothing like him). Like season's 1 and 2 only 2 characters fully powered up halfway through making the rest of the cast almost useless. The last 4th or so until the final few episodes drags on a bit as well as it's basically the same thing happening every episode. Finally the last thing that bothered me was older digidestine's voices being used throughout the entire season, especially
Lucemon being voiced by Izzy
.

Still enjoyed the season.
Koji's brothers (no idea how to spell his name)
storyline was my favorite of any of the digidestine's from any season. Ranking season's 1-4 I'd now put them at 3>>>1>>>4>>>>>>>>2 for me.

Tried to spoilertag everything to make sure I didn't spoil anyone just watching it.
 
Just finished rewatching most of Season 4 since I only ever saw about half of it (where they were in the giant maze). Most of my problems with it are nitpicks but I have a bunch of them. Every new digimon after
burninggreymon
was a disappointment for me and
magnagurumon
bothered the fuck out of me for some reason because he wasn't symmetrical. Also didn't like how they named some of the evolutions after older digimon (
burninggreymon
bothered me the most because he looks nothing like him). Like season's 1 and 2 only 2 characters fully powered up halfway through making the rest of the cast almost useless. The last 4th or so until the final few episodes drags on a bit as well as it's basically the same thing happening every episode. Finally the last thing that bothered me was older digidestine's voices being used throughout the entire season, especially
Lucemon being voiced by Izzy
.

Still enjoyed the season.
Koji's brothers (no idea how to spell his name)
storyline was my favorite of any of the digidestine's from any season. Ranking season's 1-4 I'd now put them at 3>>>1>>>4>>>>>>>>2 for me.

Tried to spoilertag everything to make sure I didn't spoil anyone just watching it.

Like I said though, bulk of the problem occurs halfway due to how the ensemble is treated, but otherwise is a good show.
 
I've been wanting to go back and watch from the start again. I love it as a kid, and wonder if I would love it as much now.
I've also wanted to play a Digimon game, but I'm not sure if any of them are good.
 
Just finished rewatching most of Season 4 since I only ever saw about half of it (where they were in the giant maze). Most of my problems with it are nitpicks but I have a bunch of them. Every new digimon after
burninggreymon
was a disappointment for me and
magnagurumon
bothered the fuck out of me for some reason because he wasn't symmetrical. Also didn't like how they named some of the evolutions after older digimon (
burninggreymon
bothered me the most because he looks nothing like him). Like season's 1 and 2 only 2 characters fully powered up halfway through making the rest of the cast almost useless. The last 4th or so until the final few episodes drags on a bit as well as it's basically the same thing happening every episode. Finally the last thing that bothered me was older digidestine's voices being used throughout the entire season, especially
Lucemon being voiced by Izzy
.

Still enjoyed the season.
Koji's brothers (no idea how to spell his name)
storyline was my favorite of any of the digidestine's from any season. Ranking season's 1-4 I'd now put them at 3>>>1>>>4>>>>>>>>2 for me.

Tried to spoilertag everything to make sure I didn't spoil anyone just watching it.

that exactly how I rank them too
 
Just finished rewatching most of Season 4 since I only ever saw about half of it (where they were in the giant maze). Most of my problems with it are nitpicks but I have a bunch of them. Every new digimon after
burninggreymon
was a disappointment for me and
magnagurumon
bothered the fuck out of me for some reason because he wasn't symmetrical. Also didn't like how they named some of the evolutions after older digimon (
burninggreymon
bothered me the most because he looks nothing like him). Like season's 1 and 2 only 2 characters fully powered up halfway through making the rest of the cast almost useless. The last 4th or so until the final few episodes drags on a bit as well as it's basically the same thing happening every episode. Finally the last thing that bothered me was older digidestine's voices being used throughout the entire season, especially
Lucemon being voiced by Izzy
.

Still enjoyed the season.
Koji's brothers (no idea how to spell his name)
storyline was my favorite of any of the digidestine's from any season. Ranking season's 1-4 I'd now put them at 3>>>1>>>4>>>>>>>>2 for me.

Tried to spoilertag everything to make sure I didn't spoil anyone just watching it.

What I really like about this series is that the kids turn into Digimon, which makes me wonder why there hasn't been another Digimon series with this same premise.
 
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