MSduderino
Banned
Duh, dude. DF loved the game with a few technical caveats and some are jumping to it being unplayable and hyperfocusing on the caveats without any nuance.
Digital Foundry: Donkey Kong Bananza - Nintendo Switch 2
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
60-30 is unplayable
MSduderino
Banned
Checkmate. You got me. gg. Nice troll.60-30 is unplayable
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
DF - "The solid controls, creative challenges and excellent presentation all left a strong impression on me and I definitely think Bananza is one of Nintendo's best platform games in a long while - at least in terms of 3D platforming. It's a great way to kick off the Switch 2 generation and comes highly recommended. Technically, it has a few lingering issues, but what the team has accomplished here is still quite impressive."
Half a dozen peoples who likely will never buy the game nor a Switch 2 :
Such trash, I'm off to play the much more technically advanced games from now on
Much better
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Actually what you are doing in this type of thread is trolling. Tread lightly.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
You can't argue with graphic whores. These people don't play games.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Why are non graphic whores like you in this thread again?
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
You acting as if this not the case with almost EVERY threads….90% discussion in GAF is bitching about graphics.
Mozza
Member
Like I said it;s so obvious at this point am not sure why some are in denial avout it. And I hope they continue as it's so much fun...
Senua
Member
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You didn't answer.
You do know other threads for DKB exist right?
Mozza
Member
But then it would only be people like yourself.....Then who are you going to find th fight with.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
They act attacked.But then it would only be sad people like yourself.....Then who are you going to find th fight with.
I am a Nintendo fan(just got my copy delivered) but no company should be excused from poor handling of tech.
Lokaum D+
Member
Wait, Just cause DF said they loved the game with a few technical flaws we have to love It too ? Can we have our own opinion about the game technical flaws ?
Lots off ppl has different levels of tolerance for technical flaws and 99% of the time Nintendo get a pass ( like From or Capcom ) cause their system are always the "weak" one, tbf most of the Japaneses devs get a pass when we talk about technical flaws.
Mozza
Member
There are two sides to this coin. On the one hand there is balanced discussion on this subject. But there are also people just trolling. The game looks amazing but does have the odd framrate drop here and there, Which was what Digital foundry pretty much said in their review. At no point did they even suggest the game is trash.
Sebastian1295
Member
It's a thread specifically made to talk about the graphics and poor performance and you're saying that people shouldn't be talking about the graphics nor the poor performance.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I can't say it enough... the drops to 30fps during boss fights is my issue and I'm not happy.
Sebastian1295
Member
DF - "The solid controls, creative challenges and excellent presentation all left a strong impression on me and I definitely think Bananza is one of Nintendo's best platform games in a long while - at least in terms of 3D platforming. It's a great way to kick off the Switch 2 generation and comes highly recommended. Technically, it has a few lingering issues, but what the team has accomplished here is still quite impressive."
Half a dozen peoples who likely will never buy the game nor a Switch 2 :
Such trash, I'm off to play the much more technically advanced games from now on
Much better
Dude comparing spiderman 2 which is open world to donkey kong is just a dumb comparison. Don't be a blind fanboy when in reality spiderman 2 blows it out of the water graphically and if you're going to argue otherwise then you've officially lost the plot and need to wash your face and get your mind right. You've been all over this thread acting like a raging lunatic and calling people names and attacking posters. Calm down a tad and be reasonable. Donkey kong is a great game with performance issues and graphical hiccups. It's ok.
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Lokaum D+
Member
I got banned from 3 MHwilds Sony threads cause inwas bitching about graphics and performance and turns out i was right, game looks and runs like shit everywhere.
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
A spider-man 2 knight appeared 
but it looks good we can excuse the fucking glitch galore!
but it looks good we can excuse the fucking glitch galore!
Mozza
Member
Does this ruin the entire game for you?
kevboard
Member
banned for speaking the truth... what a pile of dogshit that game is on a technical level can not be understated
Sebastian1295
Member
A spider-man 2 knight appeared
but it looks good we can excuse the fucking glitch galore!
Every game has glitches so i guess every game is trash then. Doubt you even played spiderman 2 and are basing your opinion off of a few youtube videos. Good grief you're acting like an unhinged fanboy on this thread. Not wasting anymore of my time.
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Senua
Member
It doesn't have to ruin the entire game for someone to be disappointed at technical shortcomings. I dno why you guys keep jumping to extremes to defend your favourite product
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Every game has glitches so i guess every game is trash then. Doubt you even played spiderman 2 and are basing your opinion off of a few youtube videos. Good grief you're acting like an unhinged fanboy on this thread. Not wasting anymore of my time.
You couldn't even pay me to play Spider-Man 2 trash, buying the first one on PC was even a waste of my fucking time for 40% off
But it looks good
we can excuse the glitches because.. all games have them?To the point of being nominated alongside Gollum and Bethesda glitches sure
Sony masters
When someone talked about Nintendo seal of quality, while it's not NES / SNES days, for day 1 experience, I would take a few frame drops over that very very shiny turd
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No, we shouldn't. We should pretend that everything is rainbow and unicorns and lick that sweet corporation boot non-stop.It's a thread specifically made to talk about the graphics and poor performance and you're saying that people shouldn't be talking about the graphics nor the poor performance.
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Giallo Corsa
Member
You couldn't even pay me to play Spider-Man 2 trash, buying the first one on PC was even a waste of my fucking time for 40% off
But it looks good
To the point of being nominated alongside Gollum and Bethesda glitches sure
Sony masters
When someone talked about Nintendo seal of quality, while it's not NES / SNES days, for day 1 experience, I would take a few frame drops over that very very shiny turd
That Someone was me.
Also : you've been pretty OK and chill the past few months but man, gotta say, Sebastien is right when he says that you've been going out of your way lately in defending...whatever it is you're defending, I can expect such behaviour from LorOcidax and the rest of the hardcore Ninty diehards in here (the whole 3-4 of them) but...it's not a good look man, you've been regaling epithets and accusing posters's "dissenting opinions" non-stop for some reason, do better, no need to get riled up over this kind of bullshit.
PS : when you thought Xbox fans were the worst...gotta say , the Nintendo fans sure come off as a cult, there's just no discussion to be had with the likes of them.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Taking a break from the game....
Only issues I'm seeing is some frame rate drops when a NPC is pointing the next objective and the camera pans quickly to that point. Bit of a slowdown and it is obvious, but it isn't in gameplay. Gameplay is silky smooth and fun as hell.
FSR doesn't seem to have much impact as I've seen what it does in other games and none of that shit is here except maybe slightly less clear than it could be. Emphasis on "slightly". If the gripe is not using DLSS then that's something I never would have known while playing so not much to gripe about in my mind. The end result is what ultimately matters, not the tech they threw at the problem. I'd say this was technical success particularly with the destructible environments that really are a lot of fun.
Back to playing....
Only issues I'm seeing is some frame rate drops when a NPC is pointing the next objective and the camera pans quickly to that point. Bit of a slowdown and it is obvious, but it isn't in gameplay. Gameplay is silky smooth and fun as hell.
FSR doesn't seem to have much impact as I've seen what it does in other games and none of that shit is here except maybe slightly less clear than it could be. Emphasis on "slightly". If the gripe is not using DLSS then that's something I never would have known while playing so not much to gripe about in my mind. The end result is what ultimately matters, not the tech they threw at the problem. I'd say this was technical success particularly with the destructible environments that really are a lot of fun.
Back to playing....
cinnamonandgravy
Member
fsr1
also, havent played yet, goodbyee
also, havent played yet, goodbyee
Mozza
Member
Well I never suggested it was everyone..........Which was why I stated some people. Plus I think I said that Digital Foundy is correct that the game is amazing despite some slight techincal hiccups. How this is an extreme form of defending the game is beyond me.
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Mozza
Member
To be honest there are these types of fans for every console brand and their games. Let's stop pretending it's only for one console. On the whole most want a rational discussion which is difficult when you get the trolling drive by bait posts that litter almost all of these types of threads. Which of course is the point of such comments in the frst place. But trying to suggest one particular set of fans is worse than the others is ludicrous.
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GigaBowser
Banned
odersey derstroyed game over dk smash it
Windom Earle
Member
The Nintendo cult is crazy, their church can do no wrong.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Hmm what's the wrong they did this time around?
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Just to give you a heads up, the first level is definitely the worst I've encountered so far. Dips to 30 don't usually happen during gameplay, but they happen quite frequently during camera transition things, like when you're done talking to an NPC and the camera pulls back to gameplay; the game dips to 30 for a few frames.
It was bad in that first world for someone sensitive to drops like me, though dips very rarely happened during gameplay. Still, it was enough that I stopped playing, felt disappointed, and bitched about it in this thread last night. (Rightfully so!)
But the good news is that once you get past that first world, the game runs waaaaaaay better. You'll still get an occasional frame or two that'll drop during one-off transitions, but I only noticed like 2 or 3 over the course of hours of playing. Pulling up the map can still pretty consistently get frame drops no matter what level you're on, but it's not during gameplay, and it doesn't really matter when just looking at the map.
I really hope Nintendo can optimize that first world, because it left a bad first impression on me, and I imagine for a lot of other people sensitive to drops. But, so far, the rest of the game is much, much smoother.
I have no doubt I'll hit a few upsetting bottleneck levels or boss fights later on, and that will genuinely suck. But since it truly seems like 99% of the game runs excellently, I'm not gonna throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Especially because this game fucks. It's so insanely fun.
TIGERCOOL
Member
I'm pretty harsh when it comes to fps drops and this game seems smooth to me. 10 hours in.. a couple if hiccups that resolve quickly. way better than the stutter fests we get from UE5 games.
biggest surprise is how nice it looks and plays in handheld. the smaller screen covers up some of the fsr jank.
It's really a hell of an experience playing this on a handheld.
biggest surprise is how nice it looks and plays in handheld. the smaller screen covers up some of the fsr jank.
It's really a hell of an experience playing this on a handheld.
Windom Earle
Member
I dunno maybe read this thread?
darrylgorn
Member
Watched about 45 minutes of a stream of someone playing it.
Looks great and ran at 60 fps most of the time.
Looks great and ran at 60 fps most of the time.
calistan
Member
After that DF video I was expecting the game to be a jerky mess, but it's fine. The low draw distance bothers me more than the very brief frame drops - when you get on a high vantage point and the landscape below is pornstar smooth.
The only place I've found it to be consistently jerky is in the map screen. They should have locked that to 30, like Mario Kart World's photo mode and binoculars, which nobody seemed to complain about.
The only place I've found it to be consistently jerky is in the map screen. They should have locked that to 30, like Mario Kart World's photo mode and binoculars, which nobody seemed to complain about.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
You know why they do it.
Trolls coming in a graphic topic to call other people trolls for discussing graphic is always comedy gold.
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Unknown Soldier
Member
Honestly it barely looks like it's upscaled at all from 1080p and IMO that's a good thing. Nintendo didn't try to overdo the upscaling like most devs do
It drops to 30 fps when you open the 3D world map but that's not really a big deal. I've noticed a few frame drops here and there as well but nothing really significant
The game runs generally very well docked and while HDR isn't impressive, the world is colorful and the visuals are clean and sharp
I don't have any real technical issues with the game now that I've played it
Also the game is unbelievably fun, Nintendo magic is unmatched after all these decades
Giallo Corsa
Member
This sums up perfectly why people engage with this type of threads/topics, having a game performing...like it does is one thing, the constant backtracking, excuses, selective memory and just plain ol' fanboyism is another though- especially when people go into full defense mode trying to shut down ANY kind of criticism, I mean, this IS a tech topic about the game's performance but, apparently, that's a FORBIDDEN topic to bring up, am I right ?
Shit, The Witcher 3 is one of my favorite RPGs but to deny its technical shortcomings especially during launch (swamp+ Novigrad areas framerate) would be madness.
What about Ninja Gaiden 2 on the X360 ? to this day, it remains one of the best, if not the best character action game of all times but, to say that it ran "smooth" on the X360 would be a lie, same with Shadow of the Colossus on the PS2, one of the most innovative (then) and beautiful games ever but, shit ran in the low 20's most of the time ffs...
Unfortunately, when it comes to most Nintendo fans, any kind of criticism is just a big no-no, the same people pretending these things not being a big deal are the same ones that will salivate over the performance differences with the release of new Ninty hardware - just go take a look at the 10948464829 threads on the internet about how better S1 games perform on the S2, basically, it only matters when they say it does.
7-8 years from now it will all be "Donkey Kong Bananza performs flawlessly with no hitches whatsoever on the S3 ! "
BlackTron
Member
60-30 is unplayable
I think the only way this is really "unplayable" is wildly fluctuating between 60-30 in-gameplay all the time while running jumping and swinging the camera. It could get really annoying. But it doesn't seem that way and you're just implying the most damaging form of 60-30 you can imagine? Link's Awakening fluctuated on Switch 1 between 30-60 for seemingly no reason and it was maddening (but still playable because of what type of game it is). DK isn't dropping like that game, it drops when there is a clear foreseeable reason and 99% of your time will be spent in 60FPS.
Topher
Identifies as young
60-30 is unplayable
It is simply not true. It plays fantastic. The map is a bit weird being 30 but it is completely functional. I don't get why they did that and it is a little jarring at first, but let's not pretend it ruins the entire game.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Fucking this!
Yeah, it's an outrageous claim, excluding everything before gamecube
Ar¢tos
Member
FTFY
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