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[FireFly]

What a travesty. Take the two Halo characters out of the picture in OP and the frame literally looks like a frame from any other UE5 demo we've seen a million times over. The SlipSpace engine demo was much more appealing, artistically unique, and more faithful to Halo. It looks miles better in all areas that actually matter when it comes to a AAA franchise establishing and maintaining its identity.

If you watch the making of video for the 2018 trailer, you'll discover it was intended to be a vision of what a new Halo title could be. It was engineered from the ground up to create "Halo" feelings, whether or not anything that was shown was shippable in a game. On the other hand Project Foundry was an internal project to build content that could ship in future titles, and was not intended for outside viewing.

“Where this type of work’s been done historically, across the industry, it can contain a lot of smoke and mirrors,” explains Matthews. “It sometimes leads players down paths where they believe it’s going to be one thing, and then something else happens. The ethos of Foundry is vigorously the opposite of that.

"Everything we've made is built to the kind of standards that we need to build for the future of our games," Matthews said. "We were very intentional about not stepping into tech demo territory. We built things that we truly believe in, and the content that we've built--or at least a good percentage of it--could travel anywhere inside our games in the future if we so desire it."

Multiple New Halo Games In The Works, As Series Moves To Unreal And 343 Gets A New Name

343 Industries is now Halo Studios.

www.gamespot.com

Despite all this, if you take a random shot of the 2018 trailer without any of the characters, I don't think anyone could tell that it was supposed to be from the Halo Universe. Indeed when it was shown live, streamers were speculating that it was a Far Cry or Rage sequel! It has cinematography and emotion and perfectly scored music, and then when you add in the Halo characters, it seems incredible. But really the excitement is for smoke and mirrors. While with Nanite, everything we've seen could appear in a game.

Edit: And actually if the classic Halo biomes are Pacific Northwest forest, Artic and Floodified zones, then I think the latest footage does a much better job of realising these elements than the 2018 trailer, which mainly features large open spaces that could be from a Far Cry game.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Halo is a dead franchise, multiplatform won't save it.

Pretty much this

I’d possibly get MCC on PS5 for the nostalgia but that’s it.

I remember the weekend I played Halo 4 and being so disappointed with it. I’ve certainly had no interest in playing 5 or Infinite.

 

[Putonahappyface]

"Fucken cunt scum".

 

[EverydayBeast]

Halo is going to PlayStation out of desperation their fans have low self esteem, and I’ll give infinite credit it’s pretty but Microsoft got too comfortable with halo, just being honest.

 

[XXL]

One good thing.

With the UEVR mod on PC, this should be playable in VR.

 

[RoadHazard]

PS land has a lack of first party AAA shooters imo

What about Conc... right.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Isn’t that guy one of the editors at XboxEra?

 

[intbal]

First, there was NetImmerse. Then it was modified and renamed to Gamebryo. Then it was modified and renamed to Creation Engine. It's not uncommon for engines to last for decades without a clean sheet start. Source Engine is nothing more than a long string of upgrades from the original Quake engine from the mid-90s.

I'm sure that Slipspace is just a downstream variant of the same Bungie engine that's been in use since the first Halo game. But, after Guardians, they had to make heavy modifications to bring it up to modern (at the time) visual standards at 60fps (on One X), while still being compatible with the hideously underpowered and esoteric Xbox One, and also allowing for the newer architecture and visual features possible with the Series consoles.
I'm betting it's bloated beyond belief in its attempt to work well with all those machines and requirements.

Regardless of the potential multi-platform nature of future Halo installments, Slipspace needed to go.

 

[clarky]

The worst thing about all this Halo news is the next installment is its likely at least 5 years away on current dev cycles and that would be 8 years since the last entry.

One thing is for certain is aint coming to Playstation any time soon, or xbox for that matter

It better be good.

 

[SSfox]

I don't care

But cool for people who care i guess

 

[Astray]

Playstation was unable to run whatever engine Halo used to be running?

They would have to make it work with Sony APIs etc and pay more money for it.

UE5 makes it easier to swap contractors over the project lifetime and still get decent productivity.

 

[Astray]

The worst thing about all this Halo news is the next installment is its likely at least 5 years away on current dev cycles and that would be 8 years since the last entry.

One thing is for certain is aint coming to Playstation any time soon, or xbox for that matter

It better be good.

That latest trailer is clearly for recruitment purposes too.

 

[nani17]

All jokes aside I wouldn't be surprised if it happens one day but not anytime soon

 

[Herr Edgy]

on current consoles... there isn't really much more than that no.
these systems are quite literally just laptop PCs built into a fancy case. not only laptop PCs, but Laptop PCs that use the exact same architecture as well

No, that's really not true. There is far more than hardware and CPU architecture.
Dev Kits, CI/CD, platform APIs (file system, input system, achievements, online platform to name a few), scalability settings.
These things do not just work out of the box.

 

[twilo99]

Halo Multiplayer should've been on PlayStation a decade ago ... big $$$ left on the table

 

[Iced Arcade]

I can see Halo remakes releasing on PlayStation and new mainline games remaining on Xbox/PC.

But it's phil and they change directions every 3 months so who knows lol

 

[Gaiff]

What a travesty. Take the two Halo characters out of the picture in OP and the frame literally looks like a frame from any other UE5 demo we've seen a million times over. The SlipSpace engine demo was much more appealing, artistically unique, and more faithful to Halo. It looks miles better in all areas that actually matter when it comes to a AAA franchise establishing and maintaining its identity.

And with today's tech, this demo looks doable. Hell, I'd say there's more than enough power in the Series X to make a better looking game with the same aesthetics.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

MS would need to give PS users the option of PS5 matchmaking only. We don't like those sticky PC cheaters.

 

[shamoomoo]

What a travesty. Take the two Halo characters out of the picture in OP and the frame literally looks like a frame from any other UE5 demo we've seen a million times over. The SlipSpace engine demo was much more appealing, artistically unique, and more faithful to Halo. It looks miles better in all areas that actually matter when it comes to a AAA franchise establishing and maintaining its identity.

This trailer isn't really proof of what the Slipspace engine is capable of, this could've just been a proof of concept.

 

[Thief1987]

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Speaking to Eurogamer, Digital Foundry chief Richard Leadbetter said moving to Unreal 5 makes for “easier” multi-platform development than porting across the existing Slipspace engine.

Wow, who would have thought about that? Thanks digital laundry for your superb insights

 

[Gaiff]

This trailer isn't really proof of what the Slipspace engine is capable of, this could've just been a proof of concept.

Wasn't the point he was making. The point that he was making was that the Slipsace engine just looked more attractive and faithful to Halo and that it's a travesty that it never panned out and they're now moving to a more mainstream and generic engine.

 

[Buggy Loop]

The warriors :

 

[clarky]

Wasn't the point he was making. The point that he was making was that the Slipsace engine just looked more attractive and faithful to Halo and that it's a travesty that it never panned out and they're now moving to a more mainstream and generic engine.

That trailer did, however the final product was so far removed from it, its hardly believeable that the final game and that trailer are even running the same engine at all.

The trailer nailed the look completely. Infinite not so much.

The new renders they showed yesterday, worse than both imo.

 

[winjer]

The warriors :

 

[shamoomoo]

Wasn't the point he was making. The point that he was making was that the Slipsace engine just looked more attractive and faithful to Halo and that it's a travesty that it never panned out and they're now moving to a more mainstream and generic engine.

Sure,but UE5 can be custom tuned,the biggest issue with switching engine is the feel of a game.

 

[Interfectum]

 

[Gaiff]

Sure,but UE5 can be custom tuned,the biggest issue with switching engine is the feel of a game.

And the performance. Besides Fortnite, is there any other multiplayer shooter running well on UE5?

 

[NonPhixion]

Pretty sure they’re doing a warm up project of remaking Halo: Combat Evolved. We may see this soon(TM) and perhaps on more than Xbox/pc.

Halo 7(?) is obviously a few years away and will just be a next gen Xbox/pc title.

 

[clarky]

Pretty sure they’re doing a warm up project of remaking Halo: Combat Evolved. We may see this soon(TM) and perhaps on more than Xbox/pc.

Halo 7(?) is obviously a few years away and will just be a next gen Xbox/pc title.

The chatter is a CE remake on all platforms with a multiplayer only title to follow, again on all platforms.

Personally a full remake of CE with the shit bits cut(all the repeating assets) and new bits shoved in is a dream if they get it right.

 

[Det]

The parasite who created a website to enter metacritic and inflate xbox game ratings, corrupting and degrading the system, after the series of "yellow diarrhea rating 60+" of xbox games on metacritic, calls others scum.

 

[shamoomoo]

And the performance. Besides Fortnite, is there any other multiplayer shooter running well on UE5?

No,but that seems like a third party problem where as 343 shouldn't have that problem,but you know.

 

[polybius80]

I dont remember that scene from star wars outlaws

 

[Frwrd]

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Halo will be on PS5. The day God of War is on Xbox. lol

The dark must be a place you like.

 

[kevboard]

No, that's really not true. There is far more than hardware and CPU architecture.
Dev Kits, CI/CD, platform APIs (file system, input system, achievements, online platform to name a few), scalability settings.
These things do not just work out of the box.

these things also don't stop anyone from making a PS5 port of a game that already runs on the same architecture with broadly the same hardware features.

my point is that UE5 is not an indication of them wanting to port to PS5. they can already do that now without any issue

 

[Mattyp]

Playstation was unable to run whatever engine Halo used to be running?

Could have easily, Slipspace is just a renamed and modified Blam! Engine that Destiny still runs on now.

The numbers on this game would be huge if it launched on PS6 and Xbox at the same time.

Unreal engine swap I could see as an excuse to redo MCC perfection yet one more time and day drop on both next gen consoles as well.

 

[Beechos]

With a gaas you want it to be on many platforms as possible to have a large community.

 

[Fess]

Wow, who would have thought about that? Thanks digital laundry for your superb insights

Lol yeah, in short DF is just out fishing for clicks. Console war puts food on their table and what better way is there to engage fanboys than hinting that Playstation fans might get Halo and Xbox fans might lose Halo exclusivity?

The less exciting reality is that this is likely many years away, like 5 or more, Microsoft will have already had their PC-Xbox out for a couple years and PS6 will be out as well. Who knows how the gaming landscape will look at that point? Microsoft might already be a 3rd party publisher. And I doubt that PS5 versions would be an interesting topic. But DF wants their clicks.

 

[BennyBlanco]

ive seen this gif a million times, and The Warriors, but it never clicked until right now that this guy played Jerry in Twin Peaks. Wtf.

 

[Shrap]

Who gives a fuck. Porting it might be the final nail in the coffin for Xbox as a console platform but Halo has been dead for a long time anyway.

 

[Lord Panda]

Seriously though, it's going to take more than going multi-platform to save this franchise. Bringing Marty O'Connell to do the score would be a great start.

 

[Herr Edgy]

these things also don't stop anyone from making a PS5 port of a game that already runs on the same architecture with broadly the same hardware features.

my point is that UE5 is not an indication of them wanting to port to PS5. they can already do that now without any issue

I agree moving to UE5 does not imply wanting to port.

 

[Team Andromeda]

I guess with IGN now owning DF one needs to get used to the trolling.

I take it given we've had a needless remake of Until Dawn whose engine also switched to Unreal 5, it's coming to the Xbox *rollseyes*

 

[RetroGamingUK]

I guess with IGN now owning DF one needs to get used to the trolling.

I take it given we've had a needless remake of Until Dawn whose engine also switched to Unreal 5, it's coming to the Xbox *rollseyes*

The ports only seem to be going in one direction.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

I guess with IGN now owning DF one needs to get used to the trolling.

I take it given we've had a needless remake of Until Dawn whose engine also switched to Unreal 5, it's coming to the Xbox *rollseyes*

Sounds like you need to take a vacation to an island somewhere.

 

[Radical_3d]

Phil has been superb for Sony

Not even that. If I want to play halo I buy an XBox. He’s just damaging to Microsoft without benefiting anybody else.

 

[ArtHands]

You'll have a bigger chance seeing Spider-Man 2 getting announced for PC

 

[Team Andromeda]

Sounds like you need to take a vacation to an island somewhere.

So it was you. I remember that next time, thanks

 

[Team Andromeda]

The ports only seem to be going in one direction.

We'll see have to see. I think this was done more for an engine issue than a porting issue. It's not like Indy switched over to Unreal to make a porting job easier and like we've seen with SEGA's Dragon engine and the like Games can be ported pretty easily to both consoles, even if a game used propriety tech built around one console.

 

[Jesb]

This is a next gen project for sure.