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[Lagspike_exe]

it kinda is. and the artist is TSR

This always happens when they start upscaling for too low of resolutions. Good upscalers are usually fine with 1080p+ baseline resolution. Below 720p input resolution, it looks disgusting.

 

[Thebonehead]

 

[kevboard]

UE5 on console:

UE5 on PC:

the world without UE5:

 

[Stuart360]

Holy smokes, thats honestly getting close to the image quality of the infamous Ark Survival Evolved port on Switch, the first version.

 

[chromatic9]

What in the fuck,

the game looks a like a panning 720p youtube video?

 

[Bojji]

UE5 on console:

UE5 on PC:

the world without UE5:

Callisto is UE4... But you are mostly right

Even current version of PSSR should produce better results (as seen in Wukong) than this, but PSSR this year is missing in action. Any games supporting it in 2025?

 

[Senua]

UE5 on PC:

To be fair, the most recent UE5 games seem to be a lot better in this regard, there's still some traversal stutter ofc. Playing Clair Obsur atm and it's running well.

 

[Bojji]

To be fair, the most recent UE5 games seem to be a lot better in this regard, there's still some traversal stutter ofc. Playing Clair Obsur atm and it's running well.

Mafia seems ok as well.

 

[Gaiff]

UE5 on console:



UE5 on PC:

It seems shader compilation stutters have been massively reduced with the last few games. They're not intrusive in Clair Obscur, Wuchang, or Mafia. The problem now is traversal stutters, which affects all platforms to varying degrees.

 

[DanielG165]

540p is honestly unacceptable, as is 720p. It doesn't matter that these consoles are using RDNA 2 CPUs; their GPUs are still more than capable/powerful to deliver great results. Releasing your game at a resolution that is under HD, and then using upscaling as a crutch to boost the image up is piss poor. I was wondering why Fallen Feathers looked fuzzy and blurry when I played it on my SX, and now I can see why.

This is more than just a UE5 problem, as there are plenty of UE5 games that run at FAR higher resolutions on console, and run significantly better. Ninja Gaiden 2 Black is a great example, as is Robocop, E33, and Avowed. This is an optimization issue. The devs threw crap at the wall (or consoles in this case), and hoped that something would stick. As it turns out, nothing did, and their game looks like garage on console as a result.

Horrible result here.

 

[Buggy Loop]

well... it runs like a UE5 game... looks like shit and has an unstable performance while being sub 1080p.

UE5 and Lumen is the worst thing to ever happen to video games

Let me add TAA in that list

 

[fersnake]

pretty sure if they used UE3 the game would look better and run better.

 

[kevboard]

pretty sure if they used UE3 the game would look better and run better.

probably yeah, at least if the devs had proper experience with it.
it would probably run at 120fps on console, at 1440p, and look way more pleasing to the eye.

like on a technical level it should easily be possible to make a game with the visuals of Batman Arkham Knight at 1440p 120fps without issue on current gen console class GPUs.

we really traded image quality and performance for useless detail and overly expensive effects that all look like virtual diarrhea anyway once you see it all in motion.

 

[SKYF@ll]

The PS5 Pro will mostly maintain the upper limit of DRS, so it's best to choose a stable 60fps in Performance mode.
PS5 Pro: Performance Mode (864p/60fps) , Balanced Mode(810p/50-80fps)

PS5 & XSX: Performance Mode (540-864p/54-60fps)

 

[Karim]

Interesting.

 

[RodriGames40]

What a shock, I tell you...

 

[Skifi28]

For a very old version of UE5, it's actually not terrible. Especially on the pro, seems almost fine.

 

[Lokaum D+]

So xsx beats ps5, and the difference between ps5 pro and xsx seems marginal

If 20% is marginal i m the Queen of England.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Game performs well on PS5 Pro. The extra bump from the pro prevents poor performance.

Remember when everybody said the pro wouldn't increase frame rates because the cpu didn't get a significant bump?

 

[Gaiff]

Game performs well on PS5 Pro. The extra bump from the pro prevents poor performance.

Remember when everybody said the pro wouldn't increase frame rates because the cpu didn't get a significant bump?

Nobody said that. It was said it wouldn't help with CPU bottlenecks.

 

[viveks86]

It seems shader compilation stutters have been massively reduced with the last few games. They're not intrusive in Clair Obscur, Wuchang, or Mafia. The problem now is traversal stutters, which affects all platforms to varying degrees.

Hopefully that goes away as well with 5.6 and above. Only took 5 years to get there, but I'm seeing lumen at the the end of the tunnel

 

[Forsete]

Interesting.

What?

 

[kevboard]

Game performs well on PS5 Pro. The extra bump from the pro prevents poor performance.

Remember when everybody said the pro wouldn't increase frame rates because the cpu didn't get a significant bump?

here's everyone who said that:

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Callisto is UE4... But you are mostly right

Even current version of PSSR should produce better results (as seen in Wukong) than this, but PSSR this year is missing in action. Any games supporting it in 2025?

Interesting.

The fact that the game drops to ***540p*** on PS5 Pro is absolutely insane.

 

[Gaiff]

The fact that the game drops to ***540p*** on PS5 Pro is absolutely insane.

It doesn't? Lower bound is 900p.

Edit: Hold on, 540p is the lowest res for all platforms? I thought the Pro's lowest res was higher.

 

[kazuyamishima]

Nobody said that. It was said it wouldn't help with CPU bottlenecks.

I'm very confused, a system released last June and a lot of sites are saying that most games are GPU bonded and that optimisations here and there.

 

[DanielG165]

Game performs well on PS5 Pro. The extra bump from the pro prevents poor performance.

Remember when everybody said the pro wouldn't increase frame rates because the cpu didn't get a significant bump?

No one stated that. The CPU in the Pro is the same as the base console, just at a slightly higher clock speed. Ergo, it won't do anything for a game that is heavily CPU-bound.

 

[Radical_3d]

You are reading way to much in a Chinese new studio release. No ofende but we've seen over and over that they have more money for assets than talent.

 

[lh032]

plz tell me what's the point of 120hz when you can't even surpass 80fps?

probably for future proof next gen

 

[Bojji]

Game performs well on PS5 Pro. The extra bump from the pro prevents poor performance.

Remember when everybody said the pro wouldn't increase frame rates because the cpu didn't get a significant bump?

Don't play dumb. This game is GPU limited and you are ONLY getting ~30% more performance on average, Cerny said - 45% and GPU is 67% bigger.

In CPU limited games you get just few % more:

 

[mckmas8808]

PS6 is not going to be much stronger than PS5 Pro, those games will run as crap, they are running bad on PC too unless they improve the Unreal Engine and get better developers.

No way you really be the bolded, right?.....

 

[Fbh]

I'm saving these for whenever I complain about games running at shit resolution on consoles and people reply with "native resolution doesn't matter because it gets upscaled" and then post some screenshot of the character standing still as "proof" that it doesn't look that bad.

The problem upscaling these borderline Ps2 era resolutions isn't when you are standing still, it's that the game looks like shit in motion.

 

[Karim]

Don't play dumb. This game is GPU limited and you are ONLY getting ~30% more performance on average, Cerny said - 45% and GPU is 67% bigger.

In CPU limited games you get just few % more:

I don't remind Cerny said 45% boost in fps...use the fps to measure the gpu performance boost in a "pro" console hardware can be really misleading. But we have to thanks DF which like so much such approximations.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

I don't remind Cerny said 45% boost in fps...use the fps to measure the gpu performance boost in a "pro" console hardware can be really misleading. But we have to thanks DF which like so much such approximations.

This is an extreme CPU-bound scenario. Pro gives out ~45% FPS upside on average when you take a bunch of games. With PSSR, it can in fact look much better than the OG.

 

[Bojji]

I don't remind Cerny said 45% boost in fps...use the fps to measure the gpu performance boost in a "pro" console hardware can be really misleading. But we have to thanks DF which like so much such approximations.

We should get 45% higher FPS OR 45% higher resolution in GPU limited scenarios.

Test DF did was with fixed resolution of balanced mode and with the same graphical settings so almost perfect benchmark.

 

[SpokkX]

The current consoles are well.. shit now

 

[TrebleShot]

No games use the ps5 anyway so why do we need a ps6

 

[ZehDon]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: UE5 and FSR2 have ruined an entire generation of console games. Holy fuck.

 

[Lokaum D+]

4k on console was\is a mistake, consoles should be locked at 1440p for at least 2 more generations, what a disgrace

 

[Karim]

We should get 45% higher FPS OR 45% higher resolution in GPU limited scenarios.

Test DF did was with fixed resolution of balanced mode and with the same graphical settings so almost perfect benchmark.

The thing is ps5 pro can provide even higher resolution boost than 45% many times and look just to the fps can be misleading because I suspect the variable frequency can play some bad joke there in the balance of the cpu/gpu usage imo.

 

[Karim]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: UE5 and FSR2 have ruined an entire generation of console games. Holy fuck.

The game should use TSR not FSR2 if it's what you meant.

 

[balls of snow]

And then we have Hellblade 2 looking that good. The wild spectrum of Unreal Engine 5 games we are getting.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Jesus fuck I had not seen that

Imagine buying a nice 4K OLED and then play this. FSR2 is pixel soup.