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[Lunatic_Gamer]

A brand new Unreal Engine 5.1 title lands in immortals of Aveum - a debut project from Ascendant Studios who make the most of features like nanite and lumen. The turnout on a tech level is one of the most fascinating games we've seen on PS5, Series X and S to date. However there are technical shortcomings, with image quality in particular taking a hit in order to target 60 frames per second on each console.

Summary - We need Pro Consoles

 

[mansoor1980]

Unreal Engine 5 is Pushed Hard​

 

[M.W.]

Looks like utter dogshit on console, holy shit. Vaseline filter with tiny fov.

 

[Fbh]

720p on SX/Ps5, 436p on SS.

Can we go back to cross gen please? "Next gen" sucks. Its the same old gameplay with marginally better graphics at the cost of framerate issues and Ps3 era resolution (ps2 era in the case of Series S)

 

[Luipadre]

We back to ps3 level of IQ, great. Give me ps4 pro era crisp image quality pelase

 

[Elysium44]

Summary - We need Pro Consoles

No we need better devs who don't rely on faster hardware to brute force their poor work.

 

[Elysium44]

720p on SX/Ps5, 436p on SS.

I assumed you were kidding... then I watched the video

What are they doing? The game looks like PS3/360 quality, maybe worse.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

No we need better devs who don't rely on faster hardware to brute force their poor work.

But we are not getting that thus we need more power

 

[owandeseis]

FSR's trash, specially from low native resolution, nothing new here

 

[squidilix]

Looks like utter dogshit on console, holy shit. Vaseline filter with tiny fov.

And this is only the begining. With all futur shit frame generation with native 20fps.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

But we are not getting that thus we need more power

For 3rd party and Xbox games.
PS5 exclusives that don't have to take into account dated tech will continue to light our darkest path.

 

[Low Moral Fibre]

Anyone that said that the IQ looks ok in the review thread or OT is hereby disqualified from talking about DLSS from this date forward.

FSR looks like absolute shit from these resolutions.

 

[acm2000]

but i thought you guys wanted 60fps everywhere? careful what you wish for

not every developer has the time and resources of first party ones, this is the 60fps future for a lot of games

 

[ManaByte]

For 3rd party and Xbox games.
PS5 exclusives that don't have to take into account dated tech will continue to light our darkest path.

No they still have to take into effect 2019 AMD tech.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

For 3rd party and Xbox games.
PS5 exclusives that don't have to take into account dated tech will continue to light our darkest path.

I don’t know I want games like Wolverine and future titles to have access to more power

 

[Xtib81]

The hell is going on with those resolutions lately !!? We're going backwards.

 

[Bojji]

Series S is like return to PS2 era, both in terms of resolution and graphics quality:

What the fuck is happening with developers? They think 720p resolution is fucking ok on PS5 and XSX? What the fuck they are smoking, game barely looks better than some PS4 games but runs in PS3 resolution (PS2 for series S).

 

[Zuzu]

Series X wins this one. Can be up to 5-10fps better than PS5 and both run at identical settings (outside of the start screen where PS5 has better visual settings strangely enough). Both have an internal resolution of 720p.

Series S renders at 768x436 and is cut back in other areas including lower world detail (less grass, rocks, trees etc.), lower level of detail settings resulting in more pop in, noticeably lower quality shadows, lower volumetric lighting preset, worse texture and effects quality. Image quality as you would expect is quite awful on Series S.

I think I will get this game on my Series X and play it on my 1080p monitor.

 

[Hudo]

I cannot comprehend that EA (via EA Partners) financed this shit but refuses to bankroll a new Burnout or a remaster of Tiberian Sun. Life is so fucking unfair.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

No they still have to take into effect 2019 AMD tech.

PS5 exclusives will continue to lead the way.

 

[Saber]

Summary - We need Pro Consoles

Even me who am not keen about how those techs works know this clearly is not the case.
People gonna ask for Pro consoles only to devs use way more power for even less results, and then people gonna beg for next gen using the same premise.

 

[Redefine07]

And they want everyone to use this dogshit engine......

 

[Thirty7ven]

Bring on the PS5 Pro Cerny *enters bathtub*

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I don’t know I want games like Wolverine and future titles to have access to more power

Oh I want the Pro but it's the multiplatform non PS5 exclusives that are suffering.

 

[Skifi28]

 

[Luigi Mario]

Definitely was the right decision of so many devs to ditch their in-house engines in favor of UE5 for their upcoming games.

 

[Mr Moose]

But it doesn't even look good...

 

[AngelMuffin]

No we need better devs who don't rely on faster hardware to brute force their poor work.

What’s more realistic, better devs or pro consoles?

 

[squidilix]

Holy f..., the Series S resolution....

 

[TheTony316]

UE5 is dogshit

 

[Doczu]

No we need better devs who don't rely on faster hardware to brute force their poor work.

Dude, UE 5 will be the standard engine for the next gen of games, stop bitching on the devs.

We have a saying in Polish "you can't make a whip out of shit".

 

[diffusionx]

Pro consoles won't save us, when a 4090 runs this game like shit. Even a pro console, instead of base res of 720p, you will get 900p base or maybe 1080p base. But that is with this game, now, not a UE5 game from 2025 that will be able to push it harder.

Current graphics hardware is not good enough to do all the work these engines are capable of doing. It is almost like every UE5 game is the next Crysis. Granted we have all this gimmicky algorithm shit to mask that reality (and Nvidia sees the announcement of more gimmicky algorithm shit as exciting), but that's how it is. In the 1990s we got new GPU hardware that was ~doubling performance every year, but now we are going to have 2-3 years between generations while the hardware makers push algorithms.

 

[squidilix]

We back to ps3 level of IQ, great. Give me ps4 pro era crisp image quality pelase

That's not true. IQ on 720p (like MSAAx2 or 4) without TAA and FSR is OK and sharp.

TAA is the real problem.

 

[Elder Legend]

My dumbass forgot to request this title for review because there are so many games that are coming out I forgot that this thing existed lol. God the image quality is awful, the in-game assets also look like crap. I've seen way better looking UE 5.2 titles than this thing. I am just going to be blaming it on the developers here, never heard of them and it seems that EA just wanted to give them a chance.

There are UE4 games that look better than this, disappointing that the first UE 5 title has to be made by an incompetent studio.

 

[Zuzu]

Series S should’ve been dropped to 30fps and the base resolution increased. That image quality is unacceptable on a modern console.

 

[Pedro Motta]

What the hell is going on with the devs man. This is ridiculous. Thank god we have the first parties to deliver us some amount of quality this gen. MOst of the third parties are all dropping the ball.

 

[M.W.]

Wait for Avatar to be the same on consoles.

 

[Zathalus]

720p? That's like the 6th game this year so far that runs at that resolution on consoles.

 

[Topher]

This gen is regressing.

 

[LostDonkey]

Reconstruction was a mistake.

 

[Gaiff]

That's not true. IQ on 720p (like MSAAx2 or 4) without TAA and FSR is OK and sharp.

TAA is the real problem.

MSAA completely breaks in scenes with high geometric details. It simply isn't viable with the current visual complexity of games anymore sadly. Might work in some instances (I believe Forza still does it pretty well), but otherwise, it really stopped being effective towards the end of the PS360 era.

 

[Gaiff]

Reconstruction was a mistake.

It's not. It's a fantastic tool but not a get-out-of-jail-free card.

 

[Bogroll]

I think it's time I start looking at getting a PC.

 

[Flabagast]

So UE5 is utter shit in the end. No wonder we waited so long to see some real games running on it.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

And this is only the begining. With all futur shit frame generation with native 20fps.

From what I remember reading, it really works best with a certain frame rate target like 30-60 and up.

But most games shouldn't ship with a sloppy unoptimized 20 but for the sake of discussion, we haven't really seen that overly tested.

 

[Gaiff]

I think it's time I start looking at getting a PC.

It runs terribly on PC too. It's just that you have hardware powerful enough to break through the glaring limitations of the consoles...and the developer.

 

[M.W.]

I think it's time I start looking at getting a PC.

Not for this game, but in general, yes. Games are cheaper and *usually run better on PC.

 

[analog_future]

I think it's time I start looking at getting a PC.

I built one a few months ago and I'm never going back

 

[Black_Stride]

People bitch about 60fps so much.....well there you go.
Eat you dogs!


Metro Enhanced has RTGI other devs probably need to see how 4A managed to get RTGI at 60fps ~at 1080-1800p.
Granted Metro has much lower geometry detail and texture quality.

 

[adamsapple]

Anyone wanna take a crack at the summary? I am indisposed for a few hours and can't watch the video at the moment.