Stitch
Gold Member
Yeah, even after several videos with absolute shit performance were posted many people still said that the framerate looked OK.
Thank god that it runs pretty decently on my PC and uplay keys are very, very cheap 😀
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Digital Foundry vs Watch Dogs on Wii U
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Yeah, even after several videos with absolute shit performance were posted many people still said that the framerate looked OK.
Thank god that it runs pretty decently on my PC and uplay keys are very, very cheap 😀
It is not effort. It is cost and they put it in the gamepad. Simple.
They could easily make a console as powerful as a i7, 16gb console but shit will cost a shit lot more.
It was a design choice, so argue the choice.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
So .. this is exactly the same case as Black Flag on WiiU.
When the games released we had individual posters claiming how it was such a huge improvement over PS3/360, but then the face/off's came out....
When the games released we had individual posters claiming how it was such a huge improvement over PS3/360, but then the face/off's came out....
frankie_baby
Member
Lower frame but NO TEARING
StrongBlackVine
Banned
They clearly chose wrong as the gamepad did not become a huge fad like the motion controls.
an Ubisoft game is poorly optimized for the hardware it's on?!?!
who saw that coming?
I got a chuckle out of that
who saw that coming?
I got a chuckle out of that
Wii U's identity and good press strengthened, somehow in correlation with the end of mediocre 3rd party ports.
The return of such a DF article after few months is a reminder of how embarrassing non Nintendo games perform on this system.
So I could be wrong, but I'm not sure the absence of 3rd party support won't help Wii U, eventually. Wii U as an exclusives machine tells a better story.
The return of such a DF article after few months is a reminder of how embarrassing non Nintendo games perform on this system.
So I could be wrong, but I'm not sure the absence of 3rd party support won't help Wii U, eventually. Wii U as an exclusives machine tells a better story.
lyrick
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No they probably didn't.
Stilton Disco
Member
Can't say I'm surprised.
It's a perfect storm of the developer knowing no matter how much effort they put in they won't sell much, and the fact that this was made for 5 other platforms that are nearly identical or they have almost a decade of experience with, combined with the age old story of Nintendo only making hardware with themselves in mind.
Also general Ubisoft rubbishness, of course.
Huge shame to think that this may well be the last big budget multiplat on the WiiU though. Hell, if they don't start thinking about someone other than themselves it could well be the last one Nintendo gets ever.
It's a perfect storm of the developer knowing no matter how much effort they put in they won't sell much, and the fact that this was made for 5 other platforms that are nearly identical or they have almost a decade of experience with, combined with the age old story of Nintendo only making hardware with themselves in mind.
Also general Ubisoft rubbishness, of course.
Huge shame to think that this may well be the last big budget multiplat on the WiiU though. Hell, if they don't start thinking about someone other than themselves it could well be the last one Nintendo gets ever.
SteveWinwood
Member
wait who asked for this
FreedomFighter
Member
So apropos that ninjablade would have the first post, lol
I admit that the other thread had me believing it might've been a bit of a better port, although inside I knew better.
I admit that the other thread had me believing it might've been a bit of a better port, although inside I knew better.
Always-honest
Banned
That's a shame. I was hoping it was a very solid port for WiiU owners..
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Its because he was so desperate to post it he made his own thread which was merged.
Dictator93
Member
I will enjoy the posts pointing out how "half assed" ubisoft worked on this. Of course ignoring that the Wii U in a couple categories actually is WORSE than PS360.
That Ubisoft seal of quality.
funkystudent
Member
"A rocky 20fps is the gold standard for open world games and the team here at Ubisoft is happy we achieved that goal"
Neuromancer
Member
"You know, Clara, we really are the Watch Dogs."
Lower specs and power shouldn't be an excuse for a bad port. You wanted to do the port, do it right.
I will enjoy posts that give a company like Ubisoft the benefit of the doubt. because seriously lol.
primasaurus
Member
Wow, it's a feeding frenzy in here.. lol
There's a thing called optimizing in a game's development.
Clearly Ubi didn't give a fuck because they knew the game wouldn't sell.
And seriously, are you defending Ubisoft? They are king of shit ports.
Dictator93
Member
Perhaps that would mean taking out all of the stuff that makes it run poorly. Like the entire game.
It should not have been released though. I just doubt that the WiiU could have maintained a good framerate with the game's gameplay perogatives for graphics and CPU stuff.
Ubisoft bests itself in releasing garbage.
No benefit of the doubt to ubi, just completely doubt the WiiUs capability to run this game given its CPU.
The game was written in whatever weird open GL environment the Wii U has. It was not just dumped over from the 360 version or something.
Also, optimizing tends to mean "let's cut out stuff so this doesnt run like garbage." It isn't always, "Lets write some clever code that looks similar but performs way better."
ninjablade
Banned
come on now. they went for the bare minimum power wise, just to make the console smaller, A gpu with only 176 glops, and a weak cpu to boot, it wasn't just a choice, they just don't care for specs. it was all about being low power wattage, small, and gamepad, no effort was put making descent specs.
I'm pretty sure that Ubisofts image to WiiU owners has long since passed.
They certainly did give it their all at the launch of the WiiU but pulled out when it floundered. I'm still shocked that this version exists.
Interceptor
Banned
Wonder how much fps they could have produced with V-sync turned off.
(or at least some effort in porting it lol)
(or at least some effort in porting it lol)
Oh they care a lot for specs. - Just not the same specs as you do. Maybe they should have just taken a standard laptop cpu/gpu combi like the competition to prove their technical prowers!1.. but they didn´t. They put R&D in the gamepad and i am very happy with it.
FreedomFighter
Member
I see. I must've missed that. I can just imagine him on DF hitting 'F5' incessantly.
GhostTrick
Banned
FreedomFighter
Member
Really? Why? Because it's open world?
pinkurocket
Member
What a great topic for unnecessary Wii U bashing.
Did anyone really think the port of the underwhelming Watch Dogs was going to be in any form polished?
Did anyone really think the port of the underwhelming Watch Dogs was going to be in any form polished?
GhostTrick
Banned
I'm sure it was ! I mean, it has been delayed for like 7 months, it must have been to polish it. There's no reason to think that the 7 months had nothing to do with Ubisoft not caring about this port, right ?
Dictator93
Member
Putting a game code into an entire different API / Processor type ain't easy. There is obvious effort behind this for that fact alone
nah. We know the WiiU CPU is less powerful than that of the HD-Twins. Is it surprising tha this CPU heavy game runs worse?
yeah that's pretty much what I mean. faulting the Wii U first instead of Ubisoft. given the company, their track record as a whole, and also their track record specifically regarding the Wii U I think that's foolish. no offense to you personally.
I also agree with you that this game should have never been made. it's certainly not going to sell well and we all knew Ubisoft would do a half-assed port so even the few people that buy the game won't be getting a solid product.
Dictator93
Member
I aggree 100% with you.
I fault Ubisoft for releasing it at all. It should not have been released. Anyone who buys it is being had.
But I get the feeling that no level of godly powers could get this game's cpu heavy stuff to run well on the wiiu. Given that, they should have never released it.
Neuromancer
Member
Nintendo hasn't made any large, city based open world games for the WiiU and probably never will. I'm not going to blame lazy devs on this one. Frankly I'm surprised the WiiU version wasn't cancelled altogether.
Yeah I seen that in the Wii U thread too, how the version ran fine and even had slightly better textures. Good thing I can run this game maxed @ 1600p on my PC (after patches).
Well, i was thinking about getting it when it dropped to 20 or lower, but maybe i'll just pass alltogether.
Could this in fact somehow raise the value of the WiiU version due to how rarely a game manages to pull that off?
Could this in fact somehow raise the value of the WiiU version due to how rarely a game manages to pull that off?
pinkurocket
Member
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I'm not very tech savvy outside of animation, but what things should be the cause of the problems with the CPU? Cloth physics, debris and AI?
Beerman462
Member
They already know how to make platformers: see Rayman