Yes but this is way beyond Jaguar, it's night and day vs what's in PS4 Pro.
This chip is customized enough so that it's much better than PS4 Pro.
I can't tell if you're making fun of people who believe that or if you really think this.
Yes but this is way beyond Jaguar, it's night and day vs what's in PS4 Pro.
This chip is customized enough so that it's much better than PS4 Pro.
Maybe the smurf army is back? 🤔🤔💭
I hope it's the former.I can't tell if you're making fun of people who believe that or if you really think this.
And people wondered why Nintendo went in a different direction to avoid a tech arms race with Sony and MS 😂
I'll look forward to the PS4 Pro Plus at E3 with its 8tflop GPU!!
Yes but this is way beyond Jaguar, it's night and day vs what's in PS4 Pro.
This chip is customized enough so that it's much better than PS4 Pro.
Preach! But maybe show the receipts....
Jaguar doesn't suck now. That was like 2 days ago.
That's why the price & design of this box is so important because it need to appeal to the people in between who are not building their own PC but still care enough about the power over the Xbox One , PS4 & PS4 Pro. That's a small market & even smaller if the price is out of reach & force people to think about the options but luckily for MS that option would still lead to their eco system which Scorpio will help them get more dev support for.
I'm sorry, no. How many times do we go down this road on a new console?
Let's try and be technical in these discussions. When you make a claim this is "way beyond Jaguar" give us technical reasons to believe that. Notice we didn't get anything even close with that entire statement.
You're confused, as I've never made that claim. Not sure who you're quoting, but it wasn't me.
DwightSchruting made that claim. I asked Dwight to please explain. Then you replied to me with "Jaguar doesn't suck now. That was like 2 days ago." What do you want from me?
Go to bed.
Preach! But maybe show the receipts....
Dwight says the Scorpio CPU is "way beyond Jaguar" so I ask how and you reply with "Jaguar doesn't suck now" in response. Now you tell me to go to bed. Can we discuss specifics?
I'm to the point where I need Dragonball Z power levels explained in Season 1-3 power levels.
Come on guys! It's just a darn chip we all feign understanding when really we don't exactly.
Xbox One is Kaio-Ken x3 Goku, PS4 was Kaio-Ken x 10 Goku, PS4 Pro was Kaio-Ken x20 Goku right before his fight with Freiza, and if Xbox One Scorpio pans out, Goku hits Super Saiyan form finally. In the meanwhile, Sony is developing Super Saiyan 2 Goku to come out in a few years.
There's something wrong with this comment.Yes but this is way beyond Jaguar, it's night and day vs what's in PS4 Pro.
This chip is customized enough so that it's much better than PS4 Pro.
This is sort of where I'm at. The main reason I don't own an Xbox is because the exclusives just don't appeal to me. The Scorpio seems to be a nice piece of hardware, but I already own a Pro and I simply can't justify another $400-500 box for multiplatform games that are native 2160p vs. the 1800pC that I'm getting right now. The value proposition simply isn't there, particularly so since the CPU will remain a limiting framerate factor for most games.
Where I think Microsoft could make some progress is if they position Scorpio as the 'Steambox' that never was. Including an open Win10 boot option would actually be very attractive to me. The main problem I see is that Scorpio doesn't do a whole lot to distinguish itself outside of a marginal increase in power. If the exclusive library were more robust, or if there were other features (like Win10) included that greatly differentiated it from the competition, then the hardware proposition makes a lot more sense for both existing PS4 owners or those that would otherwise build a relatively cheap PC.
There's something wrong with this comment.
It's pretty damn good. Backwards compat and what they're doing to boost these games on Scorpio is pretty cool.
Well no, PC is still the best place to play multi platform and MS games, and still the best place to play older games.I think the value proposition right now is that it's the best place to play multiplats, the only place to play last get games better than ever, and the only place to play xbox exclusives at 4K, and the only pace to buy to get access to your game on PC and console for one price. It's not a bad proposition. I know some gamers focus primarily on Japanese games and there Sony undoubtedly has an advantage.
It's pretty damn good. Backwards compat and what they're doing to boost these games on Scorpio is pretty cool.
Yeah. There is a whole lot. It's a JAG folks. They're polishing the turd the best they can but it's the same chip on a slightly different architecture than the PS4 Pro. It's clocked higher and has access to better faster RAM, but it's still a Jaguar.
All of them.which one is pre-driver's license goku?
Yes but this is way beyond Jaguar, it's night and day vs what's in PS4 Pro.
This chip is customized enough so that it's much better than PS4 Pro.
Well no, PC is still the best place to play multi platform
Yes but this is way beyond Jaguar, it's night and day vs what's in PS4 Pro.
This chip is customized enough so that it's much better than PS4 Pro.
Well that would depend on the specific game.Not for Multiplayer games. Unless you like empty lobbies.
I hope I'm Gohan and not Goten.there's a little goku
inside all of us
The real battle come this holidays, is how Sony will price the Pro. PS2 was way weaker than OG Xbox, and Sony managed to survived then without undercutting MS.
The Pro's CPU is 2.1 GHz.Let's see...
2,3Ghz / 1,75Ghz ~= 31%
So, the other customisations (besides simple overclocking) you mentioned are responsible for the rest of Scorpio's CPU power advantage towards Pro. How much was that again altogether in %?
Well no, PC is still the best place to play multi platform and MS games, and still the best place to play older games.
If you specifically want a "console" though, it will obviously be the best place for those things with that caveat.
The Pro's CPU is 2.1 GHz.
And it also has enhancements to increase performance. The Scorpio CPU is an upgrade, but it's just a moderate one.
The Pro's CPU is 2.1 GHz.
And it also has enhancements to increase performance. The Scorpio CPU is an upgrade, but it's just a moderate one.
I'm to the point where I need Dragonball Z power levels explained in Season 1-3 power levels.
I always forget it's illogical to argue something that favors Xbox on here.
Ignore my comments, continue the gaf bias.
I tried the best I could to convey to you guys what was happening. Throughout it I was called several versions of a hater or a Sony fanboy (for some reason...), but honestly I just knew people were setting themselves up for disappointment, and I wanted to do something to at least try and prevent that.Yep. I sold myself on the fact there was no way they were using Jaguar again. Joke's on me. I'm not mad. Just disappointed. I'm so excited about the RAM and throughput though. 4K textures for us console peasants are a real treat.
The Pro's CPU is 2.1 GHz.
And it also has enhancements to increase performance. The Scorpio CPU is an upgrade, but it's just a moderate one.
Destiny was fortold in your usernameYep. I sold myself on the fact there was no way they were using Jaguar again. Joke's on me. I'm not mad. Just disappointed. I'm so excited about the RAM and throughput though. 4K textures for us console peasants are a real treat.
I don't know a lot about technical stuff, but does it make sense to increase the GPU power by so much but only increase CPU by 30%? I mean, won't the CPU remain the bottleneck?
I don't know a lot about technical stuff, but does it make sense to increase the GPU power by so much but only increase CPU by 30%? I mean, won't the CPU remain the bottleneck?
But Sony is betting that checkerboard rendering (or similar techniques) can make that 40% difference, much less visible when actually playing from your couch
I don't know if they are right, but it's interesting