That's Forza 6. You can kinda already play that on your PC.
Oh, I thought it was Forza 7. I didn't like Apex very much though. Might try it again to see how it is.
That's Forza 6. You can kinda already play that on your PC.
Lovely pic, hopefully it comes to PC. My GTX 1080 and 5820k 4 GHz is gonna make 4k60fps a piece of cake.
ok without the fanboyism in this thread because believe me its there, how much more powerful is the scorpio compared to the OG ps4, and then the PS4 Pro. I read the specs and literally it means nothing to me, thanks
Should be 399 right guys?
Its not that more powerful then PRO and release a whole year later.
And PRO will probably be 350 when this comes out.
Don't concern yourself with that too much.
The meh isn't because of hardware. It's due to Xbox's recent software output.I'm surprised that there is good amount of "meh" in this thread. This console is had the best spec to date and as gamers, this should be exciting news.
Yep. The 43% compute advantage is not even taking into account the RAM and Bandwidth improvements, which are pretty massive. Not sure if it was even including the CPU advantage. This could have easily been considered the PS4 Pro of the PS4 Pro.
Is the Scorpio more powerful than the PRO? Yes, slightly.
Will the games on Scorpio run and look better than the PRO? Probably not.
Did you miss the part where DX12 hardware implementation reduces CPU load by 50%?I still find it curious that Microsoft decided on massaging the Cat cores for another round. AMD themselves declined to continue down that path for themselves after Jaguar at 28nm. On the surface, this seems like the lowest ROI path for MS. If it's simply a shrunk and upclocked Jag, it'll be a major bottleneck. The "custom" tag thrown on this hints at some architectural tweaks, which certainly wouldn't come cheap. From what I can remember, Jaguar was a fairly well rounded chip, but perhaps they saw some low hanging fruit for a modest tick in IPC. That said, even a simple die shrink of Excavator would likely outperform this "Super Cat". Moving further up the food chain, Zen is already sitting there waiting at 14nm with proven megaton performance.
Lovely pic, hopefully it comes to PC. My GTX 1080 and 5820k 4 GHz is gonna make 4k60fps a piece of cake.
I still find it curious that Microsoft decided on massaging the Cat cores for another round. AMD themselves declined to continue down that path for themselves after Jaguar at 28nm. On the surface, this seems like the lowest ROI path for MS. If it's simply a shrunk and upclocked Jag, it'll be a major bottleneck. The "custom" tag thrown on this hints at some architectural tweaks, which certainly wouldn't come cheap. From what I can remember, Jaguar was a fairly well rounded chip, but perhaps they saw some low hanging fruit for a modest tick in IPC. That said, even a simple die shrink of Excavator would likely outperform this "Super Cat". Moving further up the food chain, Zen is already sitting there waiting at 14nm with proven megaton performance.
Not trying to bash the game.. But is Forza really a system seller? The racing audience is so small comparatively to any other genre imo.
We live in a world where the .53 teraflop difference between PS4 and Xbox One was "massive", "objectively better", and "night and day", but the 1.88 teraflop difference between Scorpio and Pro is only slight and will probably result in no discernable difference in graphical quality.
I'm... I'm not surprised.
I'm surprised that there is good amount of "meh" in this thread. This console has the best spec to date and very impressive, and as gamers, this should be exciting news.
How in the hell are people expecting this to retail at 499? It's pretty much exactly aligning with the predictions made beforehand.
They are hitting 399, don't be silly. There's a reason Jaguar/Polaris is in there.
Yep! Anyone guessing $499 as the final pricing is doing so based on logic. The hardware there could definitely justify that price. Anything lower than that would surely mean a loss on each unit sold, but it would also be extremely competitive. Time will tell which approach they decide to go with.
We live in a world where the .53 teraflop difference between PS4 and Xbox One was "massive", "objectively better", and "night and day", but the 1.88 teraflop difference between Scorpio and Pro is only slight and will probably result in no discernable difference in graphical quality.
I'm... I'm not surprised.
So the Jaguar running slower on the Scorpio compared to the pro? What does the custom Jaguar core even mean? The difference between the PS4 pro and Scorpio is smaller than I thought. Will it show in games? probably, but I don't think it was worth waiting a whole year after Sony.
For me the Pro was too little and too early. Now it is an after thought and Scorpio is arriving about right on time with the right specs.
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I'm surprised that there is good amount of "meh" in this thread. This console is had the best spec to date and as gamers, this should be exciting news.
Crackdown will be glorious on Scorpio!
Lovely pic, hopefully it comes to PC. My GTX 1080 and 5820k 4 GHz is gonna make 4k60fps a piece of cake.
Difference is what PS4 was to xbox one except this time Scorpio is arriving a year later than PRO.
I have a feeling that if this was the PS4 Pro specs announcement, the internet would have erupted into thunderous applause.
But since it's Xbox it's just kinda meh.
Well I was talking about the upclock and enhancements all together, but on its own I don't know how significant I would call it. Maybe helpful is the better word.
I don't understand why people expected some great big reveal here?
Most of this stuff was known and expected. It is nice to have some more detail, but going into this, that is all I expected out of this coverage.
Thread is huge so no idea what the overall impressions here are, but just watched the video and good lord. This thing sounds amazing. Day freaking 1
That's Forza 6. You can kinda already play that on your PC.
4K NATIVE
60 FPS LOCKED
DYNAMIC WEATHER
MAX CARS IN RACE
16X AF
40% GPU POWER LEFT
Great scotts I think I creamed my pants
I'm surprised that there is good amount of "meh" in this thread. This console has the best spec to date and very impressive, and as gamers, this should be exciting news.
Based on the performance of Forza Horizon 3, you may be a bit disappointed :lol
I'm surprised that there is good amount of "meh" in this thread. This console has the best spec to date and very impressive, and as gamers, this should be exciting news.
Yes. This has me really scratching my head too. Forza already looks great. I really do not see any non-xbox owners being on the fence over this. If Forza was what was going to sell them an xbox, they would have one already...
It will get existing xbox one owners who are Forza fans some incentive to upgrade. But this is not a strategy to get new consumers. A lot of this inital marketing seems to be to try to get existing xbox owners, already invested in thier ecosystem, to upgrade. It does very little toward attracting new users.
I'm surprised that there is good amount of "meh" in this thread. This console has the best spec to date and very impressive, and as gamers, this should be exciting news.
How in the hell are people expecting this to retail at 499? It's pretty much exactly aligning with the predictions made beforehand.
They are hitting 399, don't be silly. There's a reason Jaguar/Polaris is in there.
I was kinda excited for this, but unless that Jaguar's "customization" runs a little deeper than just an overclock, I'm probably out.
I'm open to being impressed by some software wizardry that will allow games to run at 60 FPS somehow circumventing the CPU bottleneck, but otherwise the whole 60 FPS thing doesn't seem to be working so well on PS4 Pro even on enhanced games.