MMaRsu
Member
Oh right
. Yeah that sucks.. I just use the cockpit cam and have all the hud turned off. Makes quite the difference as split time and all that stuff just makes me loose focus.
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Dirt Rally |OT| Dont Cut, Be Brave
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Oh right
. Yeah that sucks.. I just use the cockpit cam and have all the hud turned off. Makes quite the difference as split time and all that stuff just makes me loose focus.
gingerbeardman
Member
Just unlocked Clubman. Do people recommend a 70s car for Clubman?
Only used the Renault Alpine so far.
What car to buy next?
Only used the Renault Alpine so far.
What car to buy next?
MMaRsu
Member
It's up to you, there is no right or wrong way, there is no specific career path, your only limiting factor is having enough money to buy one of the cars from that car class.
I am working through it chronologically.
JohnSpartanLee
Member
Just play every car until it's maxed out. That way you'll get the most out of this game.
gingerbeardman
Member
Can I try a car before I buy it?
Yeah, just do a custom event and you can drive every car without buying it.
As for most fun class, that'd be Group B, bonkers.
gingerbeardman
Member
Ace!
I think it's inactive, Daigoro hasn't been in the thread for a few days so I'm guessing he's been busy lately. Not to worry!
Man some of that league times are incredible... and the leaders have used Lancia's to get them! Respect.
by the way - rip fence
I came close to losing a stage the other day in a similar way to this :')
DidntKnowJack
Member
Yeah, I did this many times before settling on the Ford RS200. Just find something that feels good on a test run.
man, i finally made it to professional level tournaments and was feeling cocky. So I decide to do the new league event. Let's just say it was a complete disaster. Let's just say that I shouldn't play right before bed after playing hours getting to professional and having worn out eyes and reflexes.
The new 2017 WRC Polo R concept is looking mighty good:
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/motorsport/vw-unveils-375bhp-polo-r-wrc-concept
A bit off-topic but still on-topic
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/motorsport/vw-unveils-375bhp-polo-r-wrc-concept
How much bigger, faster and lighter will it be, exactly? Well according to VW, the car itself will be 50mm wider with larger front and rear wings to match, but will still weigh in at 25kg less than the current model.
Then theres the power department. At the moment the Polo is capable of laying down 314bhp; by next year, that figure is expected climb to a monstrous 375bhp.
A bit off-topic but still on-topic
Freeman76
Member
The time has come for me to accept i am shit at this game and unlikely to ever get good at it. Ive played for HOURS, unlocked Clubman and just finish over 40 seconds slower. I dont think my brain can process what i need to do in such a way that i keep the car on the fucking track. Still love the game, and its probably going to end up my #1 all time racer.
MMaRsu
Member
Fahzgoolin
Banned
I'm learning about Rally racing through this game. After the first set of races in the 60's car class, I decided to give "Group B" because I thought that it might be an easy transition instead of going straight to modern cars.
OMG, apparently they are the most powerful and unwieldy. I accelerate and my face starts to melt.
Just focus on going slower and getting clean runs. Speed will come with time. I felt the same until I started pretending that if I crashed then I was out of the race.
OMG, apparently they are the most powerful and unwieldy. I accelerate and my face starts to melt.
Just focus on going slower and getting clean runs. Speed will come with time. I felt the same until I started pretending that if I crashed then I was out of the race.
Freeman76
Member
Fiat 131 (70's) and pretty much stock settings, added some assists (on all 3 i think) and upped the sensitivity by 5. Its not the tools though mate, i genuinely am just shit at it.
MMaRsu
Member
Well the Fiat is the best car in that class so that's good.
I'd advice to turn off any assists like traction or stability control, turn steering sensitivity to 100 and steering liniarity to 10. Those settings helped me out at least.
I dont know what the traction control does but I am playing without it and its no issue. I'm not going to explain cornering and stuff because I'll assume you know about the apex etc.
But what are you having most issues with? Just crashing a bunch? Try going back one class and use the Renault Alpine, then just take it slow in the beginning. Learn how the car handles and just try to take it slow. Instead of focussing on coming in first try coming in as fast as possible without crashing. Well except on Ice. Damn you Sweden!
I mean I'm not that great at the game because occasionally I'll still crash my car but I have a great feel for the handling of the Renault and can basically run courses now and come in first as well without crashing.
Freeman76
Member
Thanks for the tips i will give that a go next time im playing and come back with results
IronicSonic
Member
Dirt Rally is my the most fun game that I've played this year but its just a little disapointing the tutorial are only videos. they are educational but I was expecting some rally school like RBR.
Also, Daily challenges are killing me since I have not experience with faster cars
Also, Daily challenges are killing me since I have not experience with faster cars
So I've not had much chance to play, but last night I got back into my career in the 60s class, was using the Renault. So I won the tournament and I advanced to the clubman level. I decided to move on to the 70s class of cars and chose the escort I think it was. Anyway this put me back into the open championship, which was fair enough I thought. Done a few races and then decided I was going to just work through the championships on the 60s class again instead, finish all those and then move on to the 70s, but when I went back and chose my 60s car I was back in the open championship again and I had lost my progress which really pissed me off.
Is this how the career works, You need to stick with one class until full completion? What a lot of bollocks if so, by the time I finish that I'll have more money than what's required to buy everything in the game.
Is this how the career works, You need to stick with one class until full completion? What a lot of bollocks if so, by the time I finish that I'll have more money than what's required to buy everything in the game.
socksfelloff
Member
You should be shifting based on the sound of the motor
Nope, doesn't sound right. What you thought how it should work, is how it should work.
I was just pissed I had lost my 60s class progress. It's not like you can complete it again in 20 minutes. The game is still great and I'm enjoying it immensely but that's a rather odd decision by Codies on how the career mode progresses.
I meant, if you eg. progress from Open to Clubman in career, then change from eg. 60's to 80's rwd. It should be in Clubman, not in Open.
Hate to ask but are you sure you didnt go custom champ
NewOrder79
Banned
looks amazin
DrGonzo615
Banned
Man some of that league times are incredible... and the leaders have used Lancia's to get them! Respect.
by the way - rip fence
Its kinda strange that fences dont even seem to slow you down but road side signs (talking about the race signs/adverts are immovable objects....
I meant, if you eg. progress from Open to Clubman in career, then change from eg. 60's to 80's rwd. It should be in Clubman, not in Open.
Hate to ask but are you sure you didnt go custom champ
Yeah that's how I was thinking it would work too but when I progressed to 70s class it was back in open. I didn't really have an issue with that as I thought "fair enough a new class a new start" but I do have an issue with it resetting my 60s class. So I guess you need to finish off each classes championships right up to professional before moving on to the next class as you can't hop from one to the other without it resetting.
No I was definitely in career mode and I was doing the normal career I hadn't set up a custom championship or anything.
DHC-Shannow
Member
I meant, if you eg. progress from Open to Clubman in career, then change from eg. 60's to 80's rwd. It should be in Clubman, not in Open.
Hate to ask but are you sure you didnt go custom champ
No I think he's saying he dropped out of the clubman using the escort and was surprised that it'd affected his 60's championship class. To clarify things it is you that goes up and down the rankings / leagues and not the car you drive so you get promoted or relegated and can choose to use whichever class of vehicle you like. Dropping out of a championship will put you in a lower one.
Hmm just re-read what you wrote, no I dunno what's happened there.
No when I got promoted to clubman I decided to move onto the 70s class but when I did it started in the open championship which I thought odd but just went with it for a few races then decided to quit out and retire from the whole 70s open championship and go back and do the clubman on my 60s class but it had reverted back to open also.
Maybe it is because I quit out as you say and it's actually my driver level that got affected but I don't understand why it would revert to the open championship when I moved up to the 70s class. In any case I'm just gonna stick with one class and complete them chronologicaly.
In other news, I crashed and burned on stage 1 of this week's league
gingerbeardman
Member
Ditto.
Forthcoming Rush Rally 2 on iOS has a bunch of skill levels, which are great (I'm a beta tester)
Wish the Championship mode was handled better. I went from driving a 60's mini and winning the Championship to deciding to drive a 70's vehicle. Big mistake. Bad enough that I have to get used to learn how to drive RWD cars, but it's against harder AI too. Wish they just handled it like any other racing game, have a list of championships, limit them to perhaps certain groups of cars, driving types, manufacturers etc set the AI difficulty to what you want it to be, adjust the reward accordingly and ask you to complete each one. As it is, it's just as valid and rewarding to create your own Custom Championship.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
I went from 60's to group B AWD. The championship mode isn't linear.
DrGonzo615
Banned
Yep this.
I had a horrible start to the Wales rally and was at about 7th place and was slowly creeping back into contention when the stage before the final one the first place guy had a technical problem was DNF, which let me win overall.
You where bang on the money mate. You get promoted or relegated depending on where you finish. With me retiring and abandoning the clubman championship I finished bottom of the clubman league and got relegated back to the Open Championship. I really should pay attention more to what the pop-ups are saying on screen instead of just quickly skipping them. Silly me.
The structure of the single player content has me a bit worried. If I fail to improve, I might at some point not just fail to progress, but be kicked back, then forced to spend time clawing my way up where I was, only to be kicked down again in a never ending cycle.
That doesn't sit well with me at all. I'm not sure how that's any different from not being allowed to see level 11 in a shooter before beating the boss on level 10, so I'm possibly being irrational, but it feels different. Maybe because I'm a whole less sure of my ability to get through this game than I am with a random action game.
It doesn't help that the single player stuff is very thin. It doesn't have a lack of content, there seems to be enough stages, it's just lacking in structure. Unless they've hidden stuff behind the other three options in the career screen, but I'm afraid to even click them lest the game decides to erase my progress.
If this isn't at all how any of this works, feel free to laugh and correct me.
That doesn't sit well with me at all. I'm not sure how that's any different from not being allowed to see level 11 in a shooter before beating the boss on level 10, so I'm possibly being irrational, but it feels different. Maybe because I'm a whole less sure of my ability to get through this game than I am with a random action game.
It doesn't help that the single player stuff is very thin. It doesn't have a lack of content, there seems to be enough stages, it's just lacking in structure. Unless they've hidden stuff behind the other three options in the career screen, but I'm afraid to even click them lest the game decides to erase my progress.
If this isn't at all how any of this works, feel free to laugh and correct me.
DHC-Shannow
Member
Well at least we got to the bottom of it and it wasn't a problem with the game. I like how they've left it free for you to choose what you want to do, get right to the highest level with whichever class of car you prefer rather than locking you into a set career path. I guess the threat of relegation is in line with the other design aspects of the risks you take.
Cheers for the tips bud, I think I'm going to need to learn this kind of stuff to really get the best out of the cars. For example, I did the German rally tonight and the basic setup with lengthened gears was great for me on all the slower speed corners but I really struggled for car stability on the fast corners which lost me a lot of time. I'm sure over time I'll build up ideal setups for each location that'll help dial in the car but it's all part of a steep learning curve at the mo.
I was really pleased with this run on the final stage of the Welsh Rally, despite a roll in the middle - as someone said earlier, when you first start playing it feels like your Co driver is constantly giving you maths questions whilst your trying to drive at 100mph on a shoestring but after a while it kinda clicks and I love when it just reaches a point where you don't have to think about what is being said, you just respond
https://youtu.be/LNXuEjcIY7M
Diablohead
Member
even if you play it now and again there's lots to do with the daily and weekly stuff, it's all I seem to be able to play right now in my spare time.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
Well, the Sweedish rally has me stumped. The snow along the edges are a real speed killer, which wouldn't be a problem if the road in the opening section wasn't so narrow.
sweden is the only stage i can dominate the ai in.
GAFmeansLIFE
Member
In real life I shift based on the sound of the engine and the feel of the vibrations in the pedals. I was really surprised to find that none of the pedals in the Thrustmaster line have vibration as I thought it would be something that I could upgrade to eventually. I am new to wheels, but it feels like that would be the final piece needed for a near total immersion (other than something like vr). There is a strange disconnect between feeling every nuance of the road in the wheel and just having the pedals be dead.
Do any of the current wheel setups have this?
Learned this the hard way lol.
Thanks for the tip! I bought my first few cars blindly. Seemed like there had to be a better way.
Why not turn the hud off? That shit is only distracting
To anyone who hasn't done this I at least recommend trying it. The difference is HUGE! I thought it would bother me not being able to see how far along the course I had progressed, split times, etc, but in reality it just allowed me to keep my focus on my driving and only that at all times. It wasn't until I did this that I finally got the improvement I was looking for. Good stuff.
There are three possible options in the career, if you finish top 3, you get promoted to the next difficulty, if you finish in the bottom 3 (or retire) you get demoted, if you finish elsewhere you stay at the same difficulty, I don't see this as an issue, because what's the point of pushing the difficulty if you can't finish top 3?
The only rewards for higher difficulty is more winnings and longer rallies, so there is no real issue with staying in a difficulty that suits your own skill level.
Not sure how else they could have handled the career, apart from manually selected difficulty level, but that wouldn't have really changed much.
Sim racers are just like this, it's not GT or Forza, people leveled similar complaints at PCARS career, I don't have an issue with either , and I prefer a more open natured career , where i can just enjoy the racing, rather than the restrictive, grind heavy careers of GT or Forza, where you MUST finish in the top three to progress.
You don't Have to finish anywhere in Dirt to progress, it'll just adjust the difficulty if you don't perform well.
Freeman76
Member
The last part of this post contradicts the first part, and makes no sense? You do have to finish in the top 3 to progress, why are you saying you dont have to finish anywhere?