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Dirt Rally |OT| Dont Cut, Be Brave
- Thread starter Watevaman
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Because increasing the difficulty isn't really progress (imo), you can stay on the lowest difficulty and still earn money to buy cars, which is the only real progress in the career.
Freeman76
Member
If you dont finish in the top 3 you stay in the open championship though?
Correct, but you still earn money to buy cars, even if the difficulty was manual, why would you increase it if you couldn't finish high (er) up the table?
Freeman76
Member
Yeah i do see what you mean with that bit. I must be misunderstanding the rest of it.
I think maybe people are just missing that kind of gamification or gameplay loop that people get from other games.
It's not really prevalent in the sim genre, there isn't much of a call for it, for my personal opinion , with a sim, I don't really need any structure, gamification or gameplay loop, give me the tools to do it myself, give me lots of diverse cars that have lots of depth that needs to be learnt, give me tracks, give me challenging AI, and the option to set up races or championships in the cars I want to drive, on the tracks I want to drive, give me custom championships, that's all I need, I don't need credits, XP, or any other those trinkets.
It's not really prevalent in the sim genre, there isn't much of a call for it, for my personal opinion , with a sim, I don't really need any structure, gamification or gameplay loop, give me the tools to do it myself, give me lots of diverse cars that have lots of depth that needs to be learnt, give me tracks, give me challenging AI, and the option to set up races or championships in the cars I want to drive, on the tracks I want to drive, give me custom championships, that's all I need, I don't need credits, XP, or any other those trinkets.
JohnSpartanLee
Member
Yet to me this game still has structure/a gameplay loop. I play in career mode with every car (one by one from oldest to newest) until I have all of its upgrades.
Playing this way there is plenty of grinding/unlocking to do.
Being able to level up your team and through this speed up the upgrading process of each car also gives a sense of real progress and feels rewarding.
So there definitely is some "casual completionist" fun to be had.
Playing this way there is plenty of grinding/unlocking to do.
Being able to level up your team and through this speed up the upgrading process of each car also gives a sense of real progress and feels rewarding.
So there definitely is some "casual completionist" fun to be had.
True. It's not forced by the game.
gingerbeardman
Member
With regards to career: I guess the only issue is if you end up racing the same limited set of courses over and over?
Indeed, but this is a (fault) with all racing games, but if the driving is challenging enough and the physics has enough depth, then it should take you quite a while before getting exhausted with the content.
It's not so much an issue with a rally game as a circuit racer, because it's quite rare that you can get two runs on the same course the same in a rally game.
Don't get me wrong though, I wouldn't mind more content at some point, although I believe this has already been ruled out?
gingerbeardman
Member
What could help if there's was a counter or percentage of completion. Or am I missing some other metric somewhere?
Basically, I just don't want I miss anything it has to offer.
Basically, I just don't want I miss anything it has to offer.
DHC-Shannow
Member
I'm pretty sure the game does a dlc check before connecting to Racenet so there's provision for further expansion even if nothing has been announced.
xrnzaaas
Member
- Start with the slowest / easiest cars (Mini, Abarth 131 etc.). Choose Wales or Finland to practice driving on gravel/mud, Germany to practice tarmac. Also watch the tutorial vids if you haven't played a rally game (or if it's been a while since the last time).
- Don't try to drive at 100%. Leave some margin for error.
- Listen to your co-driver.
- Don't cut if the co-driver says don't cut.
Practice, ,listen to the co-driver, when he says CAUTION, he means it, practice, practice and practice.
It's a very hard game, and it takes a lot of effort to "get gud", it's not for everybody though.
MMaRsu
Member
Haha cmon bro. Pick the Renault Alpine ( best starter car ) and do a slow lap with hud turned off and listen really close to the co driver.
If he says left 6 thats a easy left, hardly a turn
If he says 1 left its a very sharp turn
Drive carefully, dont ever pick up too much speed. Keep on the brakes constantly. Just try to finish a few races without crashing, dont worry about your standing.
It takes a bit of practice to shall we say git gud but when you can do a lap on high speed without crashing you will feel very rewarded.
i have a final question before my copy arrives.
say i end up sucking at it...like, really sucking. am i stuck sucking on a single country or am i free to suck on any track/event?
i have slight issues with the trackmania progression system of "of you're skills aren't up to scratch, you can't play these final 100 tracks". is this how it is with DiRT Rally? am i stuck playing the first event over and over until i'm good enough to see more tracks?
say i end up sucking at it...like, really sucking. am i stuck sucking on a single country or am i free to suck on any track/event?
i have slight issues with the trackmania progression system of "of you're skills aren't up to scratch, you can't play these final 100 tracks". is this how it is with DiRT Rally? am i stuck playing the first event over and over until i'm good enough to see more tracks?
You are free to drive any car on any track (well, Rally cars on rally tracks, RX cars on RX tracks and hillclimb cars on Pikes Peak) in custom events.
xrnzaaas
Member
There are custom championships and rallies outside of the career mode. All tracks and cars are unlocked right from the start.
You have to buy cars if you want to play them in the career mode, but it's doable even if you won't score great finishes. It will just take more time to earn enough money.There are custom championships and rallies outside of the career mode. All tracks and cars are unlocked right from the start.
thanks. that's a relief. never been a fan of racers that lock content behind difficulty.
Am I dumb or how can I join the PS4 league?
The link redirects me to http://www.codemasters.com/game/dirt-rally/ with no sign in whatsoever.
I think the DR site is currently broken.
that's a shame. i thought it would have definitely been in there since it's so iconic to mcrae (besides his subaru) i guess the screenshots i saw were from livery mods on PC
do you unlock liveries? i've noticed in the OP it lists cars that are just plain white, but i assume i can race a ford focus with this livery? i kinda want the old colin mcrae 2.0 aesthetic.
I'm not sure about career mode (haven't touched it), but there are different liveries for each car. For example, the Focus has 8, as you can see at the bottom of its image it says "Livery 1/8." I'm pretty sure that livery for the focus is included, but don't quote me 100%.
When I do my update to the OT soon to address the new content, I'll link to a gallery that includes all liveries of the cars if I can.
Fortinbras
Member
I don't understand how the AI works in this game. I played the Rally Cross Classic championship on professional difficulty and finished three of the four events in the top three. Now in the fourth event I can't even qualify. I've tried for more than two hours now and I can't do it. It's like the game wants me to repeat the season.
Really frustrating.
Really frustrating.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Very few official liveries aside from the 2000's and later cars. Really wanted to rip around in the red and blue Phillips Renault 5
Very few official liveries aside from the 2000's and later cars. Really wanted to rip around in the red and blue Phillips Renault 5
I would imagine it was possibly to do with keeping licensing costs down, not sure what the budget was, but as it was an early access title, I'm guessing it wasn't that large.
Shame we can't do custom liveries on console though, even a limited livery system like that in DriveClub or SLRE would have been good.
DrGonzo615
Banned
I really dont like the comparisons to Dark Souls. Dirt Rally gives you all the tools from the get go and tells you everything you need to know, its just up to you to hone your skills.
Dark Souls is obtuse as fuck and regularly kills you in ways that you could never had avoided on the first play through.
Dirt Rally would be like Dark Souls if there was no co-driver and even then, it still gives you all the info you need to play the game.
Dark Souls is obtuse as fuck and regularly kills you in ways that you could never had avoided on the first play through.
Dirt Rally would be like Dark Souls if there was no co-driver and even then, it still gives you all the info you need to play the game.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Because hard games = Dark Souls like now apparently. I hate the comparison, but it's apt for DiRT Rally.
Except the co-driver lies sometimes, right 6?, really?, you call that a 6? as you reverse your Subaru out of a ditch.
Picked this up the other day, and was able to go through the stages for the ps4 league for some of my first races. I didn't come in last! Close though.... I was able to not crash on the first stage, but the second and last killed me. It was my first time seeing hay bales and I went straight into them a few times... I also tried to run a large portion of the last stage with a flat before I eventually crashed and found out I could fix it lol.
hunchback
Member
I need some Xbox controller settings suggestions. I'm having a heck of a time controlling any of the cars right now. I have all aids turned off except auto clutch. My sensitivity is set to 65 and linerity 20. If I turn the sensitivity up,my problems get worse.
I do fine on hairpin corners and some of the tighter ones. Straight aways are my nemesis right now. When I get up to speed it's like I'm on ice even if it's pavement. It just feels extremely sloppy when I get up to speed and I lose control.
Has the next Xbox league event been posted yet. I proudly came in 12th in our first event. How dare the rest of you took last place from me. Lol
I do fine on hairpin corners and some of the tighter ones. Straight aways are my nemesis right now. When I get up to speed it's like I'm on ice even if it's pavement. It just feels extremely sloppy when I get up to speed and I lose control.
Has the next Xbox league event been posted yet. I proudly came in 12th in our first event. How dare the rest of you took last place from me. Lol
Reduce the sensitivity, you might also want to make sure your controller has enough deadzone so you don't get uncommanded steering inputs, failing that, try adjusting the front toe in, you can make a car more stable in a straight line.
hunchback
Member
Thanks. What would you set the dead zone at? I'm currently at 20 for deadzone. I'll try the toe in also. I haven't ever adjusted that before.
Just enough that you don't see any of the steering bar twitching on the controller adjustment screen.
Demanufacture
Banned
Not sure what you guys are talking about
gingerbeardman
Member
PS4 GET!
Game arriving tomorrow.
Looking forward to the visual upgrade from my ageing desktop computer (only capable of Ultra Low quality at 60fps)
Game arriving tomorrow.
Looking forward to the visual upgrade from my ageing desktop computer (only capable of Ultra Low quality at 60fps)
MMaRsu
Member
Either try deadzone at zero, sensitivity at 100 but linalearity on 10 or try what danowat said
Not sure what you guys are talking about
Times like this i wish i was a PC gamer with access to mods.
Man some of that league times are incredible... and the leaders have used Lancia's to get them! Respect.
by the way - rip fence
whats the easiest way to make animated gifs of movie clips?
On another not is there a way to move the split times indicator that pops up, that get in my way all the time
So does Dark Souls.
It's only "Obtuse" if you care about the story. The gameplay you can get by without so much as understanding ANYTHING beyond the stat system and picking a weapon you like/feel good with.
I beat the superboss/old King in Dark Souls 2 with a broken sword at SL 56 or so, FFS. It's not like the game explaining his nitty-gritty details and "oh, by the way
keep those boss souls, you can make him weaker instead of wailing on him for an hour and praying you don't get hit!"