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Disney Epic Mickey |OT|
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SpacePirate Ridley
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Holy fuck this game is awesome, im in Ostown right now and I nearly shed a tear for the old characters when they explain their stories.
Clarabelle and Horace are really well implemented in the game.
And the hand drawn intros are delicious.
Clarabelle and Horace are really well implemented in the game.
And the hand drawn intros are delicious.
D
Deleted member 30609
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What hype? It seems like the mad-fever pitch that is "Spector-hype" plummeted with the announcement of Wii-exclusivity, and then flatlined when the first batch of screenshots were released.hatchx said:
It makes me wish this was available for the PS3 and 360, if only because Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts threads were filled with people clamoring for a new openish platformer in the "what was fashionable in the 64 days" style. I started playing today and I'm already getting vibes that remind me of my time with that sort of game.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Great review EatChildren. I had a feeling the score would be somewhere around there after reading your impressions. Epic Mickey could be this year's Scribblenauts. A good but flawed game with wildly differing opinions.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Been playing it all day and I had a lot of fun, ok, the camera may have problems but it isnt as problematic as to not let me play good.
I love how you can force the scenery to reach places faster.
The last stage ive been is in the mickey rubbish mountain and I liked a lot the platforming there, the
and the
I love how you can force the scenery to reach places faster.
The last stage ive been is in the mickey rubbish mountain and I liked a lot the platforming there, the
mickey mouse club march in the music
stages and intro of Oswald talking to Mickey.
And the music in the Oswald cartoon stages is great.
And the music in the Oswald cartoon stages is great.
Was this game released early or something? I received my copy in the mail a little while ago, but I was sure it wasn't going to be released until next week. Anyway, I think this is gonna be one of those love/hate games, but it's Spector so I'm not surprised at all. Not sure which way I'm leaning at the moment, but I do like the look of it.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
antonz said:
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. That makes me want to go but I know it will be packed to hell and back.
TwilightPrincess
Member
6,5 really does sound ugly, not only in this Metacritic time, it sounded bad in the early 90s as well. Doesn´t matter, i will play the game for myself. And i don´t know the website at all, never heard of it before :lol: But the written text is not to bad, it only doesn`t fit what people expect from 6,5.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
apana said:
Such is the ways of the internet :lol.
Reviews are just guides to one persons opinion. If people are still unsure after reading the content, either wait for more opinions, or try the game for yourselves.
The power is yours.
TheMagician
Member
Think of the number given as being similar to what EDGE might give.
So 6.5 for Epic Mickey?
EDGE gave Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros Wii a 7/10
So 6.5 for Epic Mickey?
EDGE gave Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros Wii a 7/10
Gram Negative Cocci
Member
That review is pretty damning, and I appreciate it as a result. All I needed to hear was ' its boring' and I saved myself 50 dollars plus shipping.
antonz said:
Its posted back a ways back as well
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24460268&postcount=171
Maybe we should have it added to the op so NYC gaffers can know
Crash Station
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If the 6.5 really bothers you guys that much, just think of it as an 8. Going by the scale on the site, it pretty much is one by other website standards.
ShockingAlberto
Member
GT's review sold me, I think.
GT's review was alright. I do question whether your choices really does affect anything significant apart from what people have said here.
Will wait for some more reviews making a decision.
Also Gamesradar's review: http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/disne...w/a-2010112416849912052/g-2009102811119630063
Will wait for some more reviews making a decision.
Also Gamesradar's review: http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/disne...w/a-2010112416849912052/g-2009102811119630063
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Would've checked it out eariler today when I was picking up GT5 at Best Buy, but some pig wouldn't leave the Wii kiosk. He just stood there, with a line of people behind him.
November 30th, here I come!
November 30th, here I come!
IGN's review: http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/113/1136760p1.html
Seems like it'll be an 8/10 game. Main complaints geared towards the camera and controls, whereas praises will be given to the story and presentation.
Seems like it'll be an 8/10 game. Main complaints geared towards the camera and controls, whereas praises will be given to the story and presentation.
Bel Marduk
Banned
one_kill said:GT's review was alright. I do question whether your choices really does affect anything significant apart from what people have said here.
Will wait for some more reviews making a decision.
Also Gamesradar's review: http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/disne...w/a-2010112416849912052/g-2009102811119630063
A 9/10, nice
GT gave it an 8.2 and IGN an 8...not bad.
Bel Marduk
Banned
IGN's review seems to make the most sense given what you guys have said about the good and bad parts game's of the game.
I'll probably buy Epic Mickey using the $10 Target gift card that came with DKCR. It'll hopefully help soften the blow of the game's disappointing and frustrating features.
I'll probably buy Epic Mickey using the $10 Target gift card that came with DKCR. It'll hopefully help soften the blow of the game's disappointing and frustrating features.
BertramCooper
Banned
Just preordered from Amazon for release day delivery.
I'm super psyched, even with the somewhat tepid critical reception. I'm an unabashed Disney nerd, so this game will be pure bliss for me.
I'm super psyched, even with the somewhat tepid critical reception. I'm an unabashed Disney nerd, so this game will be pure bliss for me.
Aaron Strife
Banned
No score? But if it's not arbitrarily tied to a number I'll never know if it's good!Bel Marduk said:
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Deleted member 30609
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turned out to be even better than I expected. there was even a bit with a treasure chest on top of a tower that I just couldn't get to no matter how hard I tried. I just moved on. Remind me of playing these games as kid a just not knowing how to do things and being forced to move on. It gives the game that little bit of mystery in that cool, childish way that I love. It makes me wonder whether part of the reason I'm loving this is because of the very strong structural links to the platformers I played growing up.
there was also a section that I proceeded to through a series of fans that was actually the latter-part of another quest, that was totally optional, that I accidentally completed because I had a good eye for the environment and figured out a paint/thinner puzzle before I was instructed to do so. I love that the game lets me do that. I love that I could have, apparently, paid tickets to make it all easier.
Granted, I'm not even at the hub yet (is there even one? I guess I'll find out). If the game keeps up this level of open-ended platforming, I'll be very happy. This game is the first game in a while to trigger the collector gene in me. I thought that bit of me had died post-Psychonauts, but here I am, breaking every crate and thinning/painting as much as possible.
I don't know, maybe others won't get what I'm getting from this, but everything about this game just reminds me of being young(er) and discovering games for the first time. I have these great memories of seeing a cousin's 64 with Mario for the first time and begging him to let me try it. This game reminds me of that in a really cool way that I'd like to think is intentional. I like video games, yo.
Rez said:
turned out to be even better than I expected. there was even a bit with a treasure chest on top of a tower that I just couldn't get to no matter how hard I tried. I just moved on. Remind me of playing these games as kid a just not knowing how to do things and being forced to move on. It gives the game that little bit of mystery in that cool, childish way that I love. It makes me wonder whether part of the reason I'm loving this is because of the very strong structural links to the platformers I played growing up.
there was also a section that I proceeded to through a series of fans that was actually the latter-part of another quest, that was totally optional, that I accidentally completed because I had a good eye for the environment and figured out a paint/thinner puzzle before I was instructed to do so. I love that the game lets me do that. I love that I could have, apparently, paid tickets to make it all easier.
Granted, I'm not even at the hub yet (is there even one? I guess I'll find out). If the game keeps up this level of open-ended platforming, I'll be very happy. This game is the first game in a while to trigger the collector gene in me. I thought that bit of me had died post-Psychonauts, but here I am, breaking every crate and thinning/painting as much as possible.
I don't know, maybe others won't get what I'm getting from this, but everything about this game just reminds me of being young(er) and discovering games for the first time. I have these great memories of seeing a cousin's 64 with Mario for the first time and begging him to let me try it. This game reminds me of that in a really cool way that I'd like to think is intentional. I like video games, yo.
So fellas, were there any real surprises when it came to other noticeable Disney characters that make some kind of appearance by the time you finished the game ? This goes for even animatronic characters like Goofy and Capt. Hook. I have asked this question before, but those of us who are left waiting for the game to come out still only know a handful of revealed characters.
Chernabog ? Maleficent ? Country Bears ? Dumbo ? Mr. Toad ? Alice in Wonderland ? Pinocchio ? White and the Seven Dwarfs? Bambi ? Duck Tales ? Any lesser known oldschool black and white characters from the Mickey Mouse animated shorts ?
I almost forgot to ask about this! Is the Zippidy Doo Da song in the game?
I swear I'd buy the game just to listen to it.
Chernabog ? Maleficent ? Country Bears ? Dumbo ? Mr. Toad ? Alice in Wonderland ? Pinocchio ? White and the Seven Dwarfs? Bambi ? Duck Tales ? Any lesser known oldschool black and white characters from the Mickey Mouse animated shorts ?
I almost forgot to ask about this! Is the Zippidy Doo Da song in the game?
I swear I'd buy the game just to listen to it.
Vinterbird
Member
Hiltz said:
Alice in Wonderland was at some point in the game. There's unlockable artwork that shows the level.
But otherwise there aren't really any hidden gems of characters. There's the known lesser characters that you know, but none of those you mention is there in character. Most of the characters running around are extras from animation shorts, which is an excuse for having the same character model running around everywhere.
Even with 8.0 range I'm still disappointed. Most of the reviews are saying the gameplay is the weakest part. THE GAMEPLAY!
Story, presentation, music, and nostalgia are just added factors in a good game. The fundamental quality to video games that I value is GAMEPLAY! Tight controls, good pacing, new challenges, and non-repetitive gameplay.
GT's review was positive, but they basically said 'the minute to minute gameplay' isn't up to par. IGN had a few paragraphs outlining the poor camera, controls, and framerate.
Am I being picky? If the controls and camera aren't tight, no amount of disney is going to make this a good game. Not for me, atleast.
Story, presentation, music, and nostalgia are just added factors in a good game. The fundamental quality to video games that I value is GAMEPLAY! Tight controls, good pacing, new challenges, and non-repetitive gameplay.
GT's review was positive, but they basically said 'the minute to minute gameplay' isn't up to par. IGN had a few paragraphs outlining the poor camera, controls, and framerate.
Am I being picky? If the controls and camera aren't tight, no amount of disney is going to make this a good game. Not for me, atleast.
Vinterbird
Member
farnham said:im glad that its getting good reviews
was worried because of vinterbird and eatchildren
The game is good, but it is not the GOTY - holy fuck Warren Spector did it again - game people were hoping for. The camera and platforming is so so, and the level design is very much up and down.
It's not a shitty game at all, but it is not as amazing as it could be.
I have a feeling I'll find myself agreeing more with EatChildren. If the pirate cove level was supposed to be intermediate, then the game isn't going to be particularly challenging, or interesting. Also, the Banjo-Kazooie games aren't helping. Although I doubt Epic Mickey is as much of a glorified minigame compilation as that game was.
Apenheul said:
I would love if this game was a pure 3D platformer like SMG2, but I've had a long time to adjust expectations. What I wanted was cleverness out of the saintly/naughty system, or maybe even some nice puzzles involving thinner/painting, but it sounds like the entire game is: find an obstacle and be good or bad.
It's like when Bioshock came out and people said Bioshock was a good game, when Bioshock was at least as boring as Metroid Prime, but people really liked the atmosphere of Bioshock and thought the plot twist for Bioshock meant that Bioshock was a good game when it wasn't.
Vinterbird
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AniHawk said:
To some degree. There is no good/bad mechanic in the game. There is only "how you want to solve this", it doesn't count karma points or anything in that way. It is just "get here, however you want to", and since there is no consequence for whatever you do, it makes it easier to just progress through a level the way you would like to.
Paint is not the "good" choice, and neither is thinner. They are just tools available to you. Both regenerate constantly, and you are not locked down a certain path if you thin a thing. You can change up whenever you want, and it gives a bit more freedom in that area then the typical RPG.
For the most part, the design and mechanics support the mentality of "if you want to solve this problem the way you think you should be able to, the design probably supports it". It's not a A or B situation in terms of solving something, there's always at least four ways of getting something fixed (minus boss battles).
There aren't really any puzzles to speak of, there's very little of that, it is more focused on what I mentioned above. Letting the players playstyle be what drives the structure of the game, so if you want to go all platforming, then it supports that. If you want to pay your way out of a problem, that is sometimes possible. If you want to explore, find shortcuts or just thin all the problems away, that is also possoble.
In my book, Mickey is better then Prime (and yes, Prime was not a good game).
cuyahoga said:
The game only provides a challenge during the last 30 minutes, and that is due to an overwhelming amount of enemies and some very, very, cheap death platforming areas.
Vinterbird said:
Hm. That sounds all right then. I guess the level I played wasn't that representative of the entire game then (aside from the controls, which I was fine with).
Well, that's comforting, I guess. I really am hoping there's a B2G1F left sometime this year so I can get this with Sonic Colors and DKCR. The trifecta of platformingish Wii games that I aint so sure about.