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RiccochetJ
Gold Member
This year has been an absolute bloodbath and I'm afraid there's much more to come.
nush
Member
They are the architects of their own destruction.
FalconPunch
Gold Member
We're only getting warmed up. Wait until after the election....
JimmyRustler
Member
Am I playing devils advocate when I say that perhaps all the woke pandering was done intentionally to get some flops so they could lay off some parts of the workforce?
I'd be curious to see which departments are getting hammered. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's HR, DEI, and marketing, as those can all be rolled up more in a grand Disney umbrella versus the guys doing server maintenance, the coding, and the artists (though lately the output of Disney and Pixar have looked so similar, I'd think they are from the same people).
All curious to see how Inside Out 2 does. Seems squarely in the "teenaged girls hormones" market but who knows.
All curious to see how Inside Out 2 does. Seems squarely in the "teenaged girls hormones" market but who knows.
ResilientBanana
Member
Make movies for the minority and a minority of people will go see them.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
-They always use the same character modeling in their films.
-The Toy Story franchise does not evolve in the narrative, someone always gets lost and they go to their rescue.
- Terrible way of giving morals since the movie Onward
-It is always more melodrama and comedy, you can see the same script and follow-up in every Pixar film, but in a different way.
- The blackmail that they are always nominated for the Oscar, despite being a fiasco.
- Same script of family fights, in which the father or the son do not understand.
Simply put, every Pixar movie is getting tired and the audience too.
-The Toy Story franchise does not evolve in the narrative, someone always gets lost and they go to their rescue.
- Terrible way of giving morals since the movie Onward
-It is always more melodrama and comedy, you can see the same script and follow-up in every Pixar film, but in a different way.
- The blackmail that they are always nominated for the Oscar, despite being a fiasco.
- Same script of family fights, in which the father or the son do not understand.
Simply put, every Pixar movie is getting tired and the audience too.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Spyxos
Member
Yes Luca was great and Toy Story 4 was also good, which I think came after that. The remainder....
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
I liked it, you don't have to. I think of Luca as being about the bonds of friendship. And I enjoyed it.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lets hope its the woke writers and pencil pushers and not the animators and artists.
Encanto
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
Aye the ones that make the decisions that resulted in these woeful movies, let's keep them....
cormack12
Gold Member
I thought Luca and Encanto were both crap tbh. Luca takes the spoon though cos it's the only pixar I actually fell asleep while watching
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Exactly what I was about to post.
Lasseter was at the heart of Pixar, and he created content with genuine, morally universal content that everyone could enjoy. Removing him made Pixar fall into generic Disney mediocrity, good riddance.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Mums got a dump truck
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
And nobody was surprised.
diffusionx
Gold Member
It is weird how, when you push out talented, competent, and visionary leaders at a company and replace them with mediocrities, the companies cannot function anymore. It's almost like a company is only the sum of its employees and the name is little more than a sign in front of the building.
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ResilientBanana
Member
feeding off my last comment, it seems like a minority of people are getting let go.
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nush
Member
These things happen is waves so as not to affect the share price too much.
SidViscous
Member
I watched some of their older stuff with the kids last weekend, they were fucking amazing back in the day and couldn't produce a bad movie even if they tried. What happened? I know Lasseter got given the boot for having an inappropriate relationship, but they had a bunch of great directors, are any still around?
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newtypepilot
Member
"Top leadership is unaffected".
Must ensure the "message" is shoved into the audiences' faces!!
Must ensure the "message" is shoved into the audiences' faces!!
Fbh
Member
Maybe they fired some writers when they realized they don't need that many people to come up with another story about the same 2-3 themes they seem to focus on these days.
Here I'll do it for free:
The story take place in a world where anthropomorphized food items live, specifically in the city of Pizzaiolo where all the pizza ingredients live.
Each year there's a big talent show competition where every city sends a group of people who combine their unique talents to put on a performance.
The story follows Ana, a Pineapple who just moved into town looking for a better life
Due to some random circumstances she unexpectedly ends up on the team that's going to represent Pizzaiolo on the big talent show
At first everyone makes her feel unwelcome because she is an outsider who is different and doesn't have the same culture, everyone basically tells her she doesn't belong here.
This is specially true for evil Formaggio who thinks he alone should be enough and everyone else is just bringing him down.
With the support of a dumb but lovable ham boy called Prosciutto and a clever girl called Doughy (who we'll hint at being romantically involved with her), Ana gains the confidence to be herself and helps the team win the competition.
In the end everyone comes to realize that her uniqueness is her strength and she makes the whole team better because of it.
The end.
Here I'll do it for free:
The story take place in a world where anthropomorphized food items live, specifically in the city of Pizzaiolo where all the pizza ingredients live.
Each year there's a big talent show competition where every city sends a group of people who combine their unique talents to put on a performance.
The story follows Ana, a Pineapple who just moved into town looking for a better life
Due to some random circumstances she unexpectedly ends up on the team that's going to represent Pizzaiolo on the big talent show
At first everyone makes her feel unwelcome because she is an outsider who is different and doesn't have the same culture, everyone basically tells her she doesn't belong here.
This is specially true for evil Formaggio who thinks he alone should be enough and everyone else is just bringing him down.
With the support of a dumb but lovable ham boy called Prosciutto and a clever girl called Doughy (who we'll hint at being romantically involved with her), Ana gains the confidence to be herself and helps the team win the competition.
In the end everyone comes to realize that her uniqueness is her strength and she makes the whole team better because of it.
The end.
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Putonahappyface
Gold Member
I believe another Toy Story is in the works.
So long as olives and anchovies are the villains in Pizzaiolo as abhorent toppings that should NEVER be put on a pizza, maybe pair them with some white sauce (heh, it fits the theme!) bad guys as well, you gots my money. Pineappleonia can also learn why the marginalized strombolis and calzones should be accepted for what they are and not fat shamed
Her zippy ADHD sidekick can be a Hot Pocket.damn, I think we can pitch this....
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
I don't remember when they did produce a good movie though.
Jeff Spicoli
Member
After Lasseter It was a costant downhill
Billbofet
Member
Is this one going to focus on one of the characters getting lost and the rest of the toys teaming up to find them, only to discover they have found themselves along and throughout this journey?
Oh wait, that's Toy Story 1, 2, 3, and 4. Oh, and Finding Nemos. Oh, and Monsters, Inc.. Oh, and Inside Out, Up, Cars.........
Vyse
Gold Member
Feel like companies are not meeting their financial goals so they fire a bunch of people to save on SG&A. It’s the quickest way aside from selling assets and cross fingers that the next project will be a hit. Glad to hear those fat cats on the top are okay and that the people that are trying to make a living are kicked to the streets. Sad.
Saber
Member
But the important thing is the message, surelly they were willing to sacrifice their jobs for the greater good.
You kid but this sounds exactly the type of turd film with Oscar nomination that Disney would come up with.
And it would feel like Barbie moment at the Oscars. Bunch of top notch artistically well written phrases from quality movies, then out of sudden they show the diahea brain damage phrase from Barbie, as if its closer to any of those films.
You kid but this sounds exactly the type of turd film with Oscar nomination that Disney would come up with.
And it would feel like Barbie moment at the Oscars. Bunch of top notch artistically well written phrases from quality movies, then out of sudden they show the diahea brain damage phrase from Barbie, as if its closer to any of those films.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I liked Inside Out, Encanto, Soul and Turning Red
Y'all don't have to but they were all entertaining AF to me and my adult daughter
Y'all don't have to but they were all entertaining AF to me and my adult daughter
Unknown Soldier
Member
Steve just hit 10k RPM's I feel the shift in the Earth's orbit lol
Disney were the ones that forced Pixar to streaming to prop up D+ during the pandemic so it's their fault Pixar movies started underperforming but as usual management gets away with it and it's regular people who get laid off. Tale as old as time
Disney were the ones that forced Pixar to streaming to prop up D+ during the pandemic so it's their fault Pixar movies started underperforming but as usual management gets away with it and it's regular people who get laid off. Tale as old as time
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Mr1999
Gold Member
They always do this though, not just Disney, they hire a bunch of people during a phase and then later start cutting jobs, they follow each others trends. Plus, new Pixar films are not really what they used to be, it used to be way more family oriented, something you would go see with family, and it ended up being memorable. Hate to say it but movies/tv shows have lost their way and I think most people will agree with that, and Pixar is no different. They have a scatter shot approach, they tried, it failed and now they will scape goat whatever they can, it doesn't (for me) then mean they learned from any of it. It also doesn't mean they won't hire now, just depends on what they think they need. Would love to know what was cut.
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Laptop1991
Member
I grew up with Disney's great cartoon films and now i sadly wouldn't care if the company disappeared for good, that's how bad their output and attitude have been in recent times, if it isn't the people at the top being laid off, i don't see anything changing.
Husky
THE Prey 2 fanatic
Excellent taste. Luca is so underrated, one of Pixar's best films.
Soul and Luca were their last two excellent movies. I thought Turning Red had an effective story, good but nothing special, but the generic artstyle is very underwhelming, and is probably the main reason I won't be rewatching it.
Looking at Pixar's box office returns, perhaps Disney is anticipating further failures to match their pre-COVID profits? During the 2010s, Pixar would routinely near or cross the billion-dollar mark.
In green, movies released during COVID, which naturally weren't able to earn much in theaters; in red, every pre-COVID release that had a box office return lower than Elemental's (note these also have lower budgets than Elemental, and these are unadjusted for inflation)
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