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[Gorilla Shark]

Is Disney waving the white flag on the tranny bullshit or are they just regrouping until they find another way to spread their weirdo degeneracy?

Who knows. Either way, this is good stuff. I don’t need my kid sitting through this bullshit.

Disney Pulls Transgender Storyline from Pixar’s ‘Win or Lose’ Streaming Series (Exclusive)

The original animated show about a co-ed high school team debuts on Disney+ in February.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[AJUMP23]

Good, don't put that garbage in kids shows.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

LGBT has no place in fiction for children.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

How many genocides can one group take?!

 

[jason10mm]

"Disney informed Chanel Stewart, now 18, of the decision on Monday night. Stewart told the publication Deadline later on Tuesday she was “very disheartened” (she was 14 when she won the role after responding to an opening casting call for a trans actress). "

JFC, DELIBERATELY seeking out a teen trans kid is bordering on child abuse! It's a VO role, what's the point?

Oh yeah...virtue signaling and ESG score farming!

 

[lughnasadh123]

LGBT has no place in fiction for children.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Non-LGBT kids aren't going to have their minds melted being exposed to these groups along side straight sexuality.

 

[Hookshot]

That's a shame.

 

[jason10mm]

This doesn't make any sense to me. Non-LGBT kids aren't going to have their minds melted being exposed to these groups along side straight sexuality.

Perhaps, but having a dude on a girls softball team slamming line drives into the opposing team would make some waves and create a storyline that would age like spoilt milk given how folks are starting to view it. For a teen focused show it's probably not a bad idea to tackle to explain why these boys don't belong in girls physical sports but somehow I don't think that's Disney's take on it.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

This doesn't make any sense to me. Non-LGBT kids aren't going to have their minds melted being exposed to these groups along side straight sexuality.

There is no such thing as LGBT kids. There are just "kids" that's a grooming term. Children are children and I don't think they should be exposed to overly hetero shit either. I'm gay and when I was 7 I wanted Jurassic Park toys not boy pussy.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

"Disney informed Chanel Stewart, now 18, of the decision on Monday night. Stewart told the publication Deadline later on Tuesday she was “very disheartened” (she was 14 when she won the role after responding to an opening casting call for a trans actress). "

JFC, DELIBERATELY seeking out a teen trans kid is bordering on child abuse! It's a VO role, what's the point?

Oh yeah...virtue signaling and ESG score farming!

Purposely seeking certain demographics for a VO role is among the dumbest things I've ever heard. As long as the VO person is really good it can be anyone. At least for jobs where customers see them in person there can be a physical aspect that helps (ie. good looking servers, or a male role needs a male to do it etc...)

That's like saying everyone who works at a non-customer facing job (the CSR telephone rep or anyone at the office or warehouse who never interacts with end consumers) has to be Mexican if the company sells Mexican products.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

LGBT has no place in fiction for children.

Yes it does? People are born gay or lesbian, nothing wrong with that. Or are you trying to teach your kids everybody is heterosexual?

 

[diffusionx]

Yes it does? People are born gay or lesbian, nothing wrong with that.

There’s absolutely no evidence of this.

 

[Rockondevil]

This doesn't make any sense to me. Non-LGBT kids aren't going to have their minds melted being exposed to these groups along side straight sexuality.

Yes it does? People are born gay or lesbian, nothing wrong with that. Or are you trying to teach your kids everybody is heterosexual?

Why does any sexual preference need to be part of it?

 

[The Cockatrice]

Problematic. I will delete my sub instantly.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Why does any sexual preference need to be part of it?

A question never asked by anyone hetero. It only becomes an issue with a group outside that.

There is no such thing as LGBT kids. There are just "kids" that's a grooming term. Children are children and I don't think they should be exposed to overly hetero shit either. I'm gay and when I was 7 I wanted Jurassic Park toys not boy pussy.

Bullshit. I remember being out on vacation somewhere that had those magazine racks with porn front and center with some big ol' titties. Young me was fuck yeah, I want THAT. Even if I didn't consciously label myself as straight at a very young age, I just was. Kids know more who and what they are then they get credit for. Nor are you going to "gay up" kids by exposing to those who are.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

being out on vacation

You mean in like....the real world?

 

[nkarafo]

It's too late for Disney IMO. They are unsalvageable.

Or maybe if they pull another mid-90's renaissance, i would consider caring for their shit. And only if i'm in a very good mood.

 

[readonly]

This doesn't make any sense to me. Non-LGBT kids aren't going to have their minds melted being exposed to these groups along side straight sexuality.

We know people who are gay can be coerced in to living a heterosexual life (caused by religious and social forces). So why can't the opposite happen? Especially if those stating they are LGBT are put on a pedestal and done so while the mind is still forming and doesn't even fully understand the gravity of these things?

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Bullshit. I remember being out on vacation somewhere that had those magazine racks with porn front and center with some big ol' titties. Young me was fuck yeah, I want THAT. Even if I didn't consciously label myself as straight at a very young age, I just was. Kids know more who and what they are then they get credit for. Nor are you going to "gay up" kids by exposing to those who are.

That was adult entertainment though, that wasn't made for children. Children can sort of identify themselves who they are but let them figure it out for themselves. They don't need media influencing and/or grooming them. Kids can be swayed easily, toy commercials existed for a reason.

 

[Artoris]

Yes it does? People are born gay or lesbian, nothing wrong with that. Or are you trying to teach your kids everybody is heterosexual?

Those issues don't rise till teenage years

 

[GloveSlap]

It's too late for Disney IMO. They are unsalvageable.

Or maybe if they pull another mid-90's renaissance, i would consider caring for their shit. And only if i'm in a very good mood.

I realized how hard they have fallen as a brand when i saw a trailer of theirs come up as a Youtube ad the other day. The trailer started with the Disney logo and i instantly had a negative reaction to it. Their logo is more like a warning than a mark of quality now.

 

[Kacho]

The world is healing.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Bullshit. I remember being out on vacation somewhere that had those magazine racks with porn front and center with some big ol' titties. Young me was fuck yeah, I want THAT. Even if I didn't consciously label myself as straight at a very young age, I just was. Kids know more who and what they are then they get credit for. Nor are you going to "gay up" kids by exposing to those who are.

The vast majority of people are straight, and dont need someone telling them to be straight or gay. As you said, you just know it. I guess similar to someone who is gay they just know it too.

I was the same as a kid. I was horned up watching Phoebe Cates and Porkys sexcoms on late night tv, the good looking women on Threes Company and Benny Hill. (side tip, if you watched threes company growing up, the main cast girls arent even the hot ones really. Its all of Jacks girlfriends which are way hotter!). Nobody needs to steer me into a direction as if it's a 50/50 whether I get horny liking Terri or Larry. I just know I like Terri or the women in stockings in those Benny Hill fast scenes.

I didnt need my older brothers telling me Phoebe Cates in Ridgemont High is hot, or else they were afraid I'd end up liking Jeff Spicoli. We all naturally knew Cates and also Jennifer Jason Leigh were good looking hotties.

I think many people think kids are stupid with zero human instincts. So if a young boy isnt told to like Jenny Garth in 90210, it's a coin toss he might end up liking Jason Priestly.

 

[Kacho]

A spokesperson for Disney confirmed that the story arc was removed and provided the following statement to THR: “When it comes to animated content for a younger audience, we recognize that many parents would prefer to discuss certain subjects with their children on their own terms and timeline.”

Yeah, no shit...

 

[Fake]

Nature is healing.

 

[Stitch]

Afuera!

 

[lughnasadh123]

You mean in like....the real world?

The real world surrounded by real stuff. Even survived seeing my parents kiss.

We know people who are gay can be coerced in to living a heterosexual life (caused by religious and social forces). So why can't the opposite happen? Especially if those stating they are LGBT are put on a pedestal and done so while the mind is still forming and doesn't even fully understand the gravity of these things?

I'd argue coercing anyone to live a certain way to conform to someone's ideals above the person's own. Not to mention the long term damage of trying to do so. Nor should anyone be celebrated or rewarded for being what they are.

That was adult entertainment though, that wasn't made for children. Children can sort of identify themselves who they are but let them figure it out for themselves. They don't need media influencing and/or grooming them. Kids can be swayed easily, toy commercials existed for a reason.

Porn is very much for adults, but my point being that I knew I was straight at an early age. It's just who I was. A media presence for those not like me is just an outlet to tell those stories just like the ones we've had for decades and beyond of hetero relationship stories of a wide age range including younger kids. Why do you not consider that "influencing or grooming"? Personally I think at it's core it's not to bring in people, but to accept and comfort those who already are.

 

[CharmingCharlie]

I will make a deal with you, you agree that LBTQXYZ is kept out of kids shows and I will agree heterosexual stuff be kept out of kids shows. Cos you know it is a kids show for kids Let the poor fuckers enjoy a few years of peace and innocence before they have to get into that whole shitshow

 

[Saber]

Good, cut that crap. Its the freaking kids we are talking about. They shouldn't be exposed to that, they don't have maturity to distinguish whats right or wrong neither to made decisions. Let them be kids and only when they are older let they decide what they want or when their parents decide its time to talk.

 

[FunkMiller]

"Oh shit, this isn't turning out as profitable for us as we'd hoped!"

 

[Fbh]

JFC, DELIBERATELY seeking out a teen trans kid is bordering on child abuse! It's a VO role, what's the point?

Because the same people that constantly tell us that "trans women are real women" and that we should make no distinction between them because they are literally the same would also get mad if they cast someone who isn't a trans woman. Which is kinda ironic since it would imply there IS a difference.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Personally I think at it's core it's not to bring in people, but to accept and comfort those who already are.

i think you are missing the the issue enterely.

this is the result of companies pushing agendas for bogus reasons, is not organic or genuine and it comes across as virtue signaling.

there is "trans media" made for kids by trans creators.... whatever.

 

[FunkMiller]

Yes it does? People are born gay or lesbian, nothing wrong with that. Or are you trying to teach your kids everybody is heterosexual?

There's actually no evidence to suggest that sexuality has a genetic origin. But this is the same as any human behaviour.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/scienc...gene-sexuality-is-just-complex-study-confirms

Homophobic campaigners like to point at this, without also acknowledging that no such gene exists for anything we recognise in our behaviours. It's a combination of many, many things. Nobody is born gay, angry, kind, sad, straight, cruel or dishonest.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Because the same people that constantly tell us that "trans women are real women" and that we should make no distinction between them because they are literally the same would also get mad if they cast someone who isn't a trans woman. Which is kinda ironic since it would imply there IS a difference.

Nah it's a trickle down effect, at some point in time someone decided it was offensive if a VO wasn't like the character they were voicing, I believe the outrage started with simpsons and apu, this led to apu even no longer being on the show and the voice actor apologising for voicing him years later .
The whole simpsons "controversy" led to almost every studio only casting "appropriate" people to voice characters, even when x-men 97 got some of the old cast to return, but the VO that now does jubilee is someone else because the old VO isn't asian like jubilee.

 

[Billbofet]

Stunning and brave.

 

[lughnasadh123]

i think you are missing the the issue enterely.

this is the result of companies pushing agendas for bogus reasons, is not organic or genuine and it comes across as virtue signaling.

there is "trans media" made for kids by trans creators.... whatever.

I think it's more perception. There's nothing organic in a story - every choice is made, conscious or not, with a person's own individual thoughts and sets of bias shaping what they want to portray. It only becomes nefarious when it's for something we don't agree or believe in.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I think it's more perception. There's nothing organic in a story - every choice is made, conscious or not, with a person's own individual thoughts and sets of bias shaping what they want to portray. It only becomes nefarious when it's for something we don't agree or believe in.

the push is real, that is the issue.

 

[FunkMiller]

Stunning and brave.

Worried about Chinese money, more like

 

[jason10mm]

There's actually no evidence to suggest that sexuality has a genetic origin. But this is the same as any human behaviour.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/scienc...gene-sexuality-is-just-complex-study-confirms

Homophobic campaigners like to point at this, without also acknowledging that no such gene exists for anything we recognise in our behaviours. It's a combination of many, many things. Nobody is born gay, angry, kind, sad, straight, cruel or dishonest.

I would postulate that MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of years of heterosexual primates, and before that mammals, and before that therapsids being propagated ONLY by heterosexual relationships STRONGLY suggests that heterosexuality is ABSOLUTELY genetically encoded and can't just be "learned by observation" or whatever.

To suggest that showing non-sexual heterosexual couples in kids shows, i.e. a mommy and a daddy, is somehow "reinforcing heteronormativity at the expense of LGBT+ and somehow 'harms' young kids" is absolutely insane ludicrous absurdity. EVERY SINGLE CHILD is a product of a heterosexual relationship, however brief and perhaps only in a test tube. Simply showing a character with two mommies or daddies isn't inherently silly, however there are only a few hundred thousand kids in such home situations versus MILLIONS upon MILLIONS in either single parent or mommy/daddy homes. Chasing the kids of lesbian or gay couples is such a tiny market it's not even a rounding error.

The bigger issue really is how any kids show represents divorce or an absentee parent. And guess what, we see a TON of it in kids shows these days because losing or not having a parent is probably the most traumatic thing a kid can experience other than outright physical or sexual abuse (and a terminal disease, I suppose).

My folks were in town last week and we watched a lot of "Leave it to Beaver". EVERY damned ep had the parents having a "parenting moment" about imparting a moral lesson to the brothers. THAT is what kids shows need a bit more of, I think. Don't steal. Don't cheat (on tests). Don't lie. Do your chores. Respect your elders. Be a good friend. THIS is the stuff for kids shows, not what's in your pants and who you can rub it up against.

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

Because the same people that constantly tell us that "trans women are real women" and that we should make no distinction between them because they are literally the same would also get mad if they cast someone who isn't a trans woman. Which is kinda ironic since it would imply there IS a difference.

Unfortunately logic does not work here as their minds already feature varying degrees of mental deficiency.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

It's already a show about a co-ed high school baseball team, as I understand it. So this removal is great, but the show will still be absurdly propping up gender confusion, I guarantee. The very notion that female players could compete alongside males in high school level baseball is already a fantasy; the gap between sexes in ability for baseball skills is absolutely insurmountable by that age. But this show will try to suggest that it's all secondary and is sure to have plenty of women on the team just ace their male peers at pitching etc.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I would postulate that MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of years of heterosexual primates, and before that mammals, and before that therapsids being propagated ONLY by heterosexual relationships STRONGLY suggests that heterosexuality is ABSOLUTELY genetically encoded and can't just be "learned by observation" or whatever.

I think he means that while obviously there's lizard brain programming that makes our species exist at all because requiring sperm and egg for procreation, this isn't part of your conscious awareness of self and being able to rationalise about what you are, and that there's no genetic origins for the things you discover about yourself as such.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Poor Walt Disney... What would he say if he saw what the company became?

 

[lughnasadh123]

the push is real, that is the issue.

I'm honestly curious what how you think something like that should be included to not feel forced or is it you just think it shouldn't exist at all in media?

 

[BigBeauford]

Wait, these are high school kids? The art style doesn't sell it that way at all.

 

[Trogdor1123]

There's actually no evidence to suggest that sexuality has a genetic origin. But this is the same as any human behaviour.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/scienc...gene-sexuality-is-just-complex-study-confirms

Homophobic campaigners like to point at this, without also acknowledging that no such gene exists for anything we recognise in our behaviours. It's a combination of many, many things. Nobody is born gay, angry, kind, sad, straight, cruel or dishonest.

In no way am I an expert in any of this but how would this explain homosexuality in natural settings among wild life. My understanding, as limited as it is, is that it’s common? I could easily be wrong or confused as I know little of this subject though and would appreciate someone setting me up with some data.

 

[Kacho]

lmfao

 

[StreetsofBeige]

In no way am I an expert in any of this but how would this explain homosexuality in natural settings among wild life. My understanding, as limited as it is, is that it’s common? I could easily be wrong or confused as I know little of this subject though and would appreciate someone setting me up with some data.

Here's an article that seems to bring up some animal kingdom studies and it's not really there. Animals studied as a whole, it's there in limited fashion.

For humans, not only does it seem common, but I think a key difference is that it's pushed and celebrated like being gay is some kind of lifetime achievement. I highly doubt in other creature's more primitive lives, they go out of their way to promote being LBTQ even if some of them in a group are, while the rest arent.

The evolution of same-sex sexual behaviour in mammals - Nature Communications

There is still no consensus on the factors favouring the evolution of same-sex sexual behaviour in mammals. This study presents evidence that it is a widespread behaviour that has evolved repeatedly in mammals, and that may play an adaptive role in bonding and conflict resolution.

www.nature.com

 

[IntentionalPun]

For humans, not only does it seem common, but I think a key difference is that it's pushed and celebrated like being gay is some kind of lifetime achievement. I highly doubt in other creature's more primitive lives, they go out of their way to promote being LBTQ even if some of them in a group are, while the rest arent.

It's not uncommon in cultures where people get killed for being gay. A lot more people will of course be out of the closet where it's celebrated though.

I mean in the end it just means for a dude, that you get boners for dudes. I am unsure how anyone can believe that is some choice for people, and I certainly don't know how it could be fully a "nurture" (vs nature) scenario where you aren't "born gay" but are somehow made gay by some random variables in your life.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

it just means for a dude, that you get boners for dudes.