Magic Carpet
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After reading what Disney is getting for the Sony exclusivity I think Disney got everything they wanted from Microsoft here.
Bro that franchise is all Harrison Ford, without him it fucking dies so hard.Indiana Jones is one of the greatest Action heroes of all time. Raiders of the Lost Ark and Last Crusade blows away anything the Uncharted series has ever done or ever will.
You’ve got to be kidding me. You should lose your Man Card over this.
It's why the new movie shit the bed hard when they shit on Indy.Bro that franchise is all Harrison Ford, without him it fucking dies so hard.
It is surprising if that is accurate. Wouldn't be shocked by anything at this point with how steep their payout is on PS.After reading what Disney is getting for the Sony exclusivity I think Disney got everything they wanted from Microsoft here.
I mean the key difference is Sony negotiated those games as exclusives from the startBut it's ok to exclude xbox players from x-men, spiderman, wolverine, venom, and so on.
Bro that franchise is all Harrison Ford, without him it fucking dies so hard.
So you didn't read through this thread.But it's ok to exclude xbox players from x-men, spiderman, wolverine, venom, and so on.
indiana jones was never publicly announced as coming to ps5. do you know for a fact that sony has never worked to make a game exclusive that was originally planned (behind closed doors) to be multi platform?I mean the key difference is Sony negotiated those games as exclusives from the start
Indiana Jones was originally multi platform, we learned from the FTC trial that Microsoft renegotiated the deal after acquiring Zenimax so they could cancel the PS5 version (just like how they canceled PS5 versions of other games that were in development after making acquisitions despite having said differently before the acquisition closed)
I mean the key difference is Sony negotiated those games as exclusives from the start
Indiana Jones was originally multi platform, we learned from the FTC trial that Microsoft renegotiated the deal after acquiring Zenimax so they could cancel the PS5 version (just like how they canceled PS5 versions of other games that were in development after making acquisitions despite having said differently before the acquisition closed)
B-but they never announced it!indiana jones was never publicly announced as coming to ps5. do you know for a fact that sony has never worked to make a game exclusive that was originally planned (behind closed doors) to be multi platform?
They also cancelled Bethesda games that were also going to be multiplat, even though they weren't announced either.It was revealed that when the upcoming Indiana Jones game was first revealed, ZeniMax had an agreement with Disney to license the IP for a multiplatform game. But, following the purchase of ZeniMax, this deal was renegotiated with Disney to remove any agreement to release the game on Sony’s PlayStation 5 console, instead making it exclusive to PC and Xbox, as well as allowing it to launch on Xbox Game Pass on day one, the standard procedure for any of Microsoft’s first and second-party releases.
So you aren't paying attention?indiana jones was never publicly announced as coming to ps5. do you know for a fact that sony has never worked to make a game exclusive that was originally planned (behind closed doors) to be multi platform?
oh I’m sure Disney doesn’t really care because Microsoft obviously paid them a LOT in order to renegotiate the contract, my point is more that this is not the same thing as the Marvel games from Insomniac, but of course we have suspiciously low post count accounts popping up to try to SonyToo™ anything that could be construed as ‘bad’ for MicrosoftIt’s possible that it really doesn’t matter. They will have a sales target, they will get their royalties, and if in the end the game doesn’t reach a sales target Disney can break the agreement and get the rights back.
After reading what Disney is getting for the Sony exclusivity I think Disney got everything they wanted from Microsoft here.
I saw that film in theaters, was one of the most boring things I ever sat through, the only positive was Mads Mikkelsen.It's why the new movie shit the bed hard when they shit on Indy.
Thank you for your sacrifice.I saw that film in theaters, was one of the most boring things I ever sat through, the only positive was Mads Mikkelsen.
CGI Young Harrison sounds awful.It’s currently dead because of their insistence on keeping him. They should’ve passed the torch imo. Not that anyone can fill his shoes, but you’ve got to try.
Or go full CGI young Harrison Ford.
At least with a videogame they can just go with Indy in his prime.
So then it meant they didn't want Venom, Wolverine and all 34 X-men? Next you will tell me they also didn't want iron man, thanos, thor, captain america, dr strange, etcSo you didn't read through this thread.
MS didn't want Spider-Man.
Are you denying MS turning down Disney?So then it meant they didn't want Venom, Wolverine and all 34 X-men? Next you will tell me they also didn't want iron man, thanos, thor, captain america, dr strange, etc
You fans have the most twisted logic. Its amazing.
With the number of Xbox sales this gen...But it's ok to exclude xbox players from x-men, spiderman, wolverine, venom, and so on.
So is taking developed games away from Ps5 players when Bethesda was bought out.Disney game exclusivity is such BS.
What difference does it make? Microsoft came in and changed the outcome of all these decisions and people are just salty these games are not coming to their favorite box. Each side gets their own exclusives, isn't that what everyone wanted?B-but they never announced it!
We know it was, it was renegotiated.
They also cancelled Bethesda games that were also going to be multiplat, even though they weren't announced either.
And this is in the OP: The head of Disney-owned Marvel Games has previously claimed that Xbox turned down an opportunity to make licensed games, shortly before Sony struck a deal to make Spider-Man for PS4.
Mmm... yes. That is obviously also correct.So is taking developed games away from Ps5 players when Bethesda was bought out.
Have you ever played uncharted? Those games were literally Indiana Jones games. And they are great and sell very well.Just my opinion, but I'm having a hard time seeing how Indiana Jones can translate to a good game. Nothing to do with Xbox or anything...it's just the IP itself doesn't seem popular enough to warrant exclusivity. As for Disney's comments, I suppose if you count PC then the market could be comparable to Sony...but still...this game is likely going to need pull from as many markets as possible to be profitable. Just my opinion.
My comment was because of their first comment, I don't really care if Blade/Indiana Jones are "exclusive", I have a PC.What difference does it make? Microsoft came in and changed the outcome of all these decisions and people are just salty these games are not coming to their favorite box. Each side gets their own exclusives, isn't that what everyone wanted?
And their follow-up was "They were never announced as multiplat! and Sony do that too!"But it's ok to exclude xbox players from x-men, spiderman, wolverine, venom, and so on.
Boohoo. Plenty of folks are going to be excluded from Bethesda's games, for example. Name of today's game!But it's ok to exclude xbox players from x-men, spiderman, wolverine, venom, and so on.
They're getting money from both vendors for different licenses. They're probably happy taking competing deals and exclusivity rights.
I think people ready just fine.Does anyone ready anymore?
Disney says Indiana Jones Xbox exclusivity deal ‘made financial and strategic sense' and leaving out PlayStation didn’t feel “overly exclusionary”
1. Facts over feelings
2. Still exclusionary. Overly is not clearly defined.
Sure I can see the comparison. But where as Uncharted was a new IP, Indiana Jones is a known entity...and tired at that.Have you ever played uncharted? Those games were literally Indiana Jones games. And they are great and sell very well.
Completely agree the movies are tired and in my mind ended at 3. But a game with the voice talent of Harrison ford if he agrees to do it could be awesome. He can actually move around properly and not like a 80 year old man.Sure I can see the comparison. But where as Uncharted was a new IP, Indiana Jones is a known entity...and tired at that.
I mean I hope they figure it out...but like I said previously I'm having a hard time imagining a game that's not instantly compared to Uncharted as you mentioned. With that, it's either "this is an Uncharted rip off" or "they should have gone the Uncharted route" will be the most likely of narratives. Who's making this anyways, Machine Games?Completely agree the movies are tired and in my mind ended at 3. But a game with the voice talent of Harrison ford if he agrees to do it could be awesome. He can actually move around properly and not like a 80 year old man.
Seems like a great extension of a IP without having to worry about a physically aging actor. But who knows, maybe it will be shit.
I think people ready just fine.
Seems like a great extension of a IP without having to worry about a physically aging actor. But who knows, maybe it will be shit.
Yes they are making it.I mean I hope they figure it out...but like I said previously I'm having a hard time imagining a game that's not instantly compared to Uncharted as you mentioned. With that, it's either "this is an Uncharted rip off" or "they should have gone the Uncharted route" will be the most likely of narratives. Who's making this anyways, Machine Games?
Definitely. I’m excited for it. Machine Games make cool stuff!Absolutely. Every game has that potential to be great, meh, or terrible. This IP in particular aligns nicely with a style of game that we know people like. Let's see what they do with it.
I don't group books and video games into the same category as films/TV when it comes to long running IP (unless it is something animated), just because the books and video games have that ability to freeze time at the peak of a franchise and keep telling stories from there, where with films you have the actors aging etc. Which either completely changes the dynamics or causes the need for reboots etc.
Not really. LolJust my opinion, but I'm having a hard time seeing how Indiana Jones can translate to a good game. Nothing to do with Xbox or anything...it's just the IP itself doesn't seem popular enough to warrant exclusivity. As for Disney's comments, I suppose if you count PC then the market could be comparable to Sony...but still...this game is likely going to need pull from as many markets as possible to be profitable. Just my opinion.
It's more about the movie being trash and surrounded by the usual stink of corporate wokeism.Judging by the box office of Dial of Destiny, they sure don't
I know, it's so unfair right??How can Disney assess the success of the game if it's going straight to GP, sales will be low, and the only measurement is "Engagement"?
The game can flop even on GP and MS tells Disney it had an engagement of 1265% gigatups that increased at a rate of 337 trolibops per month, so they can trust them with more IPs?
How can Disney assess the success of the game if it's going straight to GP, sales will be low, and the only measurement is "Engagement"?
The game can flop even on GP and MS tells Disney it had an engagement of 1265% gigatups that increased at a rate of 337 trolibops per month, so they can trust them with more IPs?