I haven't had any major problems as far as crashes or performance issues. I have had a couple side quests not trigger or not move to the next segment when they're supposed to, but I just reloaded my last save and it worked. Other than that the game is definitely playable.
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I don't think you do. If you begin the conversation with a character with high barter, you should get those prices when you switch character in the trade screen. I think.
Something I would like patched in would be gear sets. Like to allow me quickly switch into high sneak or high barter gear or whatever. The inventory is by far the worst thing about the game imo.
I see Buccaneer's Den, New Magincia and Moonglow in there.
pete_townshend
Banned
Any good deals on this game right now? Been holding out on this game, but feel the need to cleanse my palate after playing a few hours of the dogshit Destiny PVP.
skullmuffins
Banned
The fire elemental in your homestead sells Man at Arms skillbooks.
Re: the final battle, did anyone else run into the
special game over credits
Astarte died in the first round against the Void Dragon.
Last Hearth
Member
So I'm stuck on Act 2
After I step through the lake and end up in Hiberheim, I followed the White Witch's voice but it leads me to a path that is blocked, how do I get past it or am I supposed to head in another direction?
Ploid 3.0
Member
Is there a list somewhere that show what the symbols mean above characters in combat (red sun for example), and a element guide (i.e. Fire burns poison, standing in water makes you wet which makes you freeze easier).
Is there a dex based pet ability later in the game? I started a new character with the idea of having him Archery + Geomancer for the spider but the -30% for low int seems like a big hit since I liked the spider on my other character. I guess I can always just focus on dex and int for that character.
Is there a dex based pet ability later in the game? I started a new character with the idea of having him Archery + Geomancer for the spider but the -30% for low int seems like a big hit since I liked the spider on my other character. I guess I can always just focus on dex and int for that character.
The red sun icon means they're flanked and suffer a penalty to defense.
It's Larian's own engine.
There's a respec option? How / when does that work?
Most abilities that cause effects also explain what they do.
lol no.
Most abilities that cause effects also explain what they do.
lol no.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I woke up with an idea for a small single-room type scenario and decided to start exploring the Divinity Engine editor. I've never done any modding or coding whatsoever, but this looks fun. Managed to make a silly test building, etc. Hopefully I can play around with stuff to a point where this idea starts to work. Anyway, reason I say this -- as part of my poking around in guides and tutorials, I came across someone else's work in the form of this proof of concept test level:
Golf claps.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Ah, it looks very similar. The plastic look, and stiffness. Some of the hair styles even look very much alike due to it.
razgriz417
Member
That's messed up.
Also, FYI: There's a respec option early-ish in the game, so don't feel obligated to restart. (Keep in mind, however, that you'll permanently lose all hotbar abilities if you respec.)
Thanks for the tips, so far I'm enjoying it though I've always been a packrat/klepto and this game is like my worst nightmare/wet dream rpg. At this rate, I'll never leave the starter town haha
grandwizard
Member
Nearing 60 hours and I think I am hitting the end of the 2nd area, this game is enormous.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Even if it did use the same engine, it's not going to look the same.
skullmuffins
Banned
Bah. They changed the crafting recipes to give you a blank scroll. Pixie dust + paper doesn't give a random elemental scroll anymore, just witchcraft ones. The other elemental scrolls are made with elemental essence + paper. I guess it's cool to be able to make the type of blank scroll you want, but this is seriously unbalanced. Pixie dust and the ingredients to make it are common and cheap. Essences are not - I'm at the end of the game, and I have around a half dozen of each, while I could probably make 30 pixie dusts. Laaaaame.
I am 5O hours in and love it and have never played a tradional crpg.
In fact after loving this I decided to try Baldur's Gate 2: EE yesterday and gave up after an hour. That game isn't for me and never will be but Divinity is awesome.
hemtae
Member
I think Divinity is definitely easier to understand if you aren't familar with AD&D
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That's a shame. I was hoping to try and jump into BG2 after finishing up Divinity but the barrier to entry might be too high.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
Is there any way to reset the sentinels next to the wishing well if you trigger them?
Sentenza
Member
Wow. You got that far?
I can only imagine how much effort you put into understanding it.
It's Baldur's Gate, by the way.
No, it's not.
Honestly, people claiming Baldur's Gate 2 is some hardcore, super-complex, incredibly cryptic thing are comical to read.
What made the game popular back then is precisely how it was the super-polished, pretty-to-look-at, easy-to-grasp RPG of its times.
Quite frankly once you grasp few basic rules (what stats do) and mechanics (spell memorization) the game is far more simple than D: OS.
But I'm guessing this must be the same crowd who cried for years that Thac0 and armor being negative values was some super hard math to make.
well to be honest I was not understanding a thing. Used magic once it disappeared. And there was no mana bar or traditional stats. May be some day I'll sit down and learn those d&d mechanics then try the game. Or I can watch some walkthroughs but they hamper my enjoyment a lot
Sentenza
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Because spells are a limited resource in D&D and they use the memorization mechanic. Once you use them, you have to rest for 8 hours to memorize them again.
And there is no mana.
There, done, mystery solved.
But even without having any previous experience with D&D you would know, if you bothered reading the game's manual.
P.S. Not sure what you mean with "there are no traditional stats". This is essentially the game that invented the idea of "traditional stats".
I do recommend you read the manual before you go in. It's true that the concepts presented are arcane (THAC0, AC)...once you get how the whole thing works, it's one of the most rewarding cRPGs.
Play around with the skillsets of your characters, replay the initial fights if you have to. until you feel you have a grasp on the system. BG2 was also awesome in that it flung you straight up into a dungeon instead of a safe space, but then when you actually emerge into the city, you have more "safer" gameplay and can improve your skills/gear.
Sentenza
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Look, people, really, it's not that arcane: you armor and your chance to hit things (Thac0, which stands for "to-hit-armor-class-zero") are better when they are lower in value.
Done. Another obscure mechanic cracked.
You're talking down to new players the same way you've accused erragal of doing to you, so cool your jets.
And it definitely is "crackable", but that doesn't mean it's the most welcoming of mechanics. It's a holdover from D&D when calculations were manual, and systems like D:OS' are far better where the computer is doing the calculating. You boost Attack Rating, you boost Armor Rating, shit gets better. Simple.
Sentenza
Member
Uh? No, I'm not.
I'm not talking down anyone, if anything they are talking down themselves, pretending they are too stupid to grasp things that quite frankly anyone can understand with very little effort.
It may not be the most smooth mechanic in the world, but that's very different from claiming it's "arcane". It's just a value that gets better as it gets lower, period. Once you realize that, there shouldn't be anything in your way.
I think what puts people off from baulders gate ( or at least what put me off ) was the fact that its trying to ram a turn based combat system into a real time system and ,while it may work , it doesn't work great. Most of the times I just use the pause , give commands , unpause for them to happen and loop. It gets grating fast and I wish they just had turn based combat .
Sentenza
Member
Uh, well, that's *exactly* how it's supposed to be played.
What did you want? RTS combat?
It was never intended to be played in real time.
If it was not , then why the real time with pause? Why could I not have set turns where I could plan it to my leisure ? . It seems really baffling to me to make a process that was automatic manual.
What is also worse is that with real time positioning also becomes a bit more difficult.
No , I did not want a RTS. I wanted a DND game and while boulders gate delivers , it seems to have dilberately taken systems that were inherently turn based and made them real time.
It works fine but I don't think it holds up. Games like divinity will beat it in terms of strategy and positioning while the real times RPGs like dragons dogma beat it in terms of spectacle and fast paced action. I feel it seems stuck between these two.
Maxwood
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Doesn't the original Baldur's Gate have like a "big" tutorial? I bought the EE of 2 a while ago and got recommended to play the original first because of that. And story ofcourse. Don't know what got in to me to buy the sequel first. 
OT:
near the Church. So many bad puns...
Delicious.
And the sneaking animations while in a snowy area are awesome.
OT:
I just met a talking wishing well
Delicious.
And the sneaking animations while in a snowy area are awesome.
Sentenza
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Because the point of a "real time with pause" combat system isn't to play in real time, It's to make everything happen at the same time.
You can also speed up things when enemies are not a relevant challenge.
Not to mention that there are several options for "auto-pause" when several different conditions come up, that virtually transform the game in a turn-based one.
Now, some people like this system a lot (Durante, for instance), others argue that it's less efficient that proper turn-based combat, but still, the idea was never to play those games in real-time.
It's up to personal taste, but to complain that "you have to pause a lot" makes no sense. If that wasn't the case it would a red flag about the combat being exceedingly dull.
lol do you even hear yourself? "Look, people, really". "Not talking down".
20 hours later I think I'm nearing the end of the first map. Can anyone tell me in spoiler tags how many more there are? I'm trying to figure out if I should finish this before playing another game or if it's going to take me 100 hours and should therefore play something else concurrently.
BG is about buffing and debuffing. If your party is just swinging and missing and you play it as a battle of attrition, it's really, really boring. It goes much faster if you have a back line buffing everyone and debuffing the enemies for a few turns before moving in and just wiping everything.
Sentenza
Member
Yeah, I do. That still isn't "talking down" anyone.
People are talking down themselves when they claim they are too stupid to grasp how a game works, even when millions of people before them were perfectly capable of it.
I don't quite understand what you mean when you say that it makes stuff happen at the same time.
Again you mention the idea was to never to play in real time which then begs the question as to why have a quasi real time function to begin with. It is just adding a step to a system that was automated begore where I have to pause myself instead of the game doing it for me.
You yourself mention that when interesting combat situations happen it demands that you pause and pretty much play it turn based anyways.
I agree that its probably personal preference but I just see no benefit of having real time at all in that game.
The cynic in me thinks it was done to make the game look cooler to an observer.
Sentenza
Member
Literally what I just said: actions aren't executed in sequence in a RTWP, in a queue; they happen all at the same time.
Because it's supposed to be a "stop, plan, and go", not "play in real time clicking really fast".
It's not even an unique prerogative of Baldur's Gate. RTwP is an entire genre of games that ranges from RPGs like Darklands, BG, Dragon Age and Aarkash Legacy to things like XCOM Apocalyplse, Commandos, etc.
Look, you are talking to someone who prefers proper turn-based to RTWP in nine cases out of ten and I still think this argument is complete bullshit.
For things happening at the same time OK I understand what you mean but I feel that being in real time doesnt really affect my strategy at all. For example in a real time with pause game I ask the warrior to tank and the rouge to backstab, I unpause and it happens. In a turn based game I would do the same in their individual turns. Infact with the real time I have to rely on the AIs movement where in the turn based game I can direct them even more accurately.
I was comparing the turn based against realtime with pause. As I stated before I font see actual benefits of the real time with pause system over turn based at all. I am not saying it doesn't work , neither am I saying it should be all fast clicking ala diablo. You mention that it let's you stop, plan and go but so does turn based.
Sentenza
Member
I don't even know how many more times I need to point that you are preaching to the choir and I prefer a proper turn based system over a RTWP.
Still, you are making a lot of wrong assumptions. RTWP is not even supposed to have an entirely different feel nor to allow for entirely different things, and that's why you aren't noticing massive differences; it's just to supposed to be a slight variation of a classical turn-based. Arguably allowing for a bit faster pacing in cases where you don't need to plan too much, precisely because it allows concurrent actions to take place.
In BG2 for instance you can painstakingly plan every single step and cast from your party or you can just select them all and target a bunch of cobolds/weaker enemies to dispatch them quickly.
For all your new-to-Baldur's-Gate needs.
Is this thread going to host another noisy discussion on the relative merits of RTwP? Where's that dedicated RTwP vs TB vs RT thread? Someone effortpost one up!
Is this thread going to host another noisy discussion on the relative merits of RTwP?
Where's that dedicated RTwP vs TB vs RT thread? Someone effortpost one up!It's entertaining though because it's Tuco arguing for RTwP. That's what makes you realize just how out there the other side in the argument must be!For all your new-to-Baldur's-Gate needs.
Is this thread going to host another noisy discussion on the relative merits of RTwP?