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DmC |OT| No, F*ck You!
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PC.And the PC already has hi res textures apparently...
It has the same meaning here.
The first white patch in his hair appears when he unlocks his DT and the final whiteness happens after he fully uses his DT powers to slap the shit out of Vergil in the last boss fight. It still represents demonic heritage.
Like yeah they could have explained it better, I guess especially in a game with so much wordy exposition elsewhere, but I got what they were getting at.
Agree about the angelic stuff being ignored though. Guess demon powers are just stronger. Or maybe they're saving it for the sequel.
I wish this game was better about prioritizing certain attacks to certain enemies. Like if there's a flying baby with a shield and some dudes on the ground, if I jump up in the air and demon grapple, I'm obviously going for the baby. Yet the game frequently grapples the guys on the ground instead. Same thing with guns and harpies.
It does prioritize flying enemies just not enough. Just another inconvenience of not having manual lock along with the inability to see health.
I finally bit on this game considering how bad people are saying aliens is. Also got it for 20$ with costume dlc, thanks to renjility (highly recommend those of you who are waiting for an official price drop to contact him). Now to wait forever for the dl >.>. I swear ever since i switched to PC gaming, buying games has been so much easier because of DD and the DD prices.
Alright. I started on it I think I have pretty cool idea where to take it.
However it's kinda hard to see what your doing when I don't have model file to work with (Neo Dante) so it might take longer + I haven't done this in years but its getting me interested again
Just a few more missions to get SSS, and then kill 5000 demons.
I'm tired of the campaign
Nephilim's enemy placements isn't really that annoying at least to get SSS, it's just all the stupid cutscene skipping.
I was close to getting 5000 demons killing after beating HaH.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Yeah a no cutscene mode would have been nice.
Wouldn't be surprised if some ini edits can get rid of the prerendered cutscenes, in game ones are surely here to stay.
Wouldn't be surprised if some ini edits can get rid of the prerendered cutscenes, in game ones are surely here to stay.
lowhighkang_LHK
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Its likely going to ship 1.2 million in less than one month released. Thats 72,000,000 in gross revenue in a month. Net profit is likely still severely less, maybe even less than half going by an article I read on how much money from a shipped game actually goes to the publisher, but you have something still at around 35,000,000 USD.
Not hitting early sales expectatations on one title, doesn't indicate that a company is in trouble or Doomed. Honestly it would kind of be silly to assume that to begin with.
Not hitting early sales expectatations on one title, doesn't indicate that a company is in trouble or Doomed. Honestly it would kind of be silly to assume that to begin with.
In this weeks Bombcast, Patrick and Brad went on and on about a specific "moment" in this game, but refused to elaborate on what that moment was. They specifically compared it to Asura's Wrath, and then said that moment would pretty much sell someone on this game, but that it was so good they didn't want to spoil it. Supposedly it was one of those "you'd know it when you see it" things. Apparently it showed the "depths of ridiculousness" of this game.
Anyone know what they were talking about?
Anyone know what they were talking about?
It's the Bob Barbas fight. He even confirmed it on the GB thread.
http://www.mediafire.com/?3a0793gkaqta0ls
That's a DmC save file for PC if someone wants to try it and see if it works.
http://www.mediafire.com/?3a0793gkaqta0ls
That's a DmC save file for PC if someone wants to try it and see if it works.
Bought the game for PC last night. I was a bit hesitant at first about PC controls, but they aren't as bad as I thought they were. I probably will invest in a converter so I can use my 360 controller.
I know Capcom are keeping up the whole "bad boy" persona for Dante, but those first opening sequences with him just really put me off. I think my 15 year old self would find the strip club and naked Dante entertaining, but personally it's ridiculous.
The cut scenes aside I'm still enjoying it.
I know Capcom are keeping up the whole "bad boy" persona for Dante, but those first opening sequences with him just really put me off. I think my 15 year old self would find the strip club and naked Dante entertaining, but personally it's ridiculous.
The cut scenes aside I'm still enjoying it.
Haunted
Member
Nice table cloth calculations there which don't factor in the dynamics of the outsourcing or how Capcom had to pay for various trips to market this game at various events without even including the cost for this game's 3 year development cycle along with how they had too cut down their own expectations for the game after the initial lack of demand.
I wasn't saying Capcom or NT are doomed as companies but they can't be making a huge return from this IF it's a big budget game (which means in today's age at least 50 million budget). I am not even saying that it is big budgeted but after Capcom slashed sales expectations by half I can't imagine them being pleased with the performance. I mean they weren't exactly ecstatic about an internally developed game selling 2.7 million...
Well since Ninja Theory was contracted to work on this game, I assume they have already been paid for their work on this game (at least operating costs, not necessarily profit share or bonuses if they are even entitled to that). Since they were never the one footing the bill for this project, their existence as a company was never hinged on the profit margins of this game. Still, after the third time where they have developed a game for a large publisher, and fell well short of sales targets and failed to attract an audience, that has to have an impact on future projects. Certainly this time they don't have the excuse that Namco sent them out to die and failed to promote their game. Capcom may or may not allow them to stick with the series, but if they ever want to create a new IP, I have to imagine a large publisher is going to be skeptical about working with them.
Not that I wish NT to go out of business or anything. I think its clear that they have talents, they just hadn't been playing to their talents in the past. In a lot of ways, this partnership with Capcom was just what they needed as a company. It just failed to appeal to me as a customer.
That's disappointing. They were getting my hopes up for some amazing moment, and its just a fairly uninteresting boss fight that had already been shown in gameplay demos months before the game released. But I guess it had flashy colors, so that's something.
edit - Whoops, fail at formatting.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Working on a video review of the game and, in the process of gathering footage, I'm surprised by how many cutscene interruptions there are.
I guess I never noticed until I tried to skip them.
I guess I never noticed until I tried to skip them.
direct_quote
Member
Don't you also have to give 25% of your sales to Epic if you license UE3 for your game...
Thanks! I'll see if I can get them to work
Riposte
Member
The way Barbas laughs along with this music was funny to me. So silly. It reminded me of Brain Age. It was a neat fight as far as gimmicky ones go, but it is pretty crazy to hype it up. I also think the area before it, while cool, was slightly spoiled by playing Kid Icarus: Uprising...
The boss in the club has way too much health. Took me while to figure out I should save DT until the damage I do actually matters. I ended up dying a few times from the boss just outlasting me (I don't use items) and it ate up too much time for what was a rather boring boss.
Boss fights are altogether rather weak. However that aside, there are plenty of interesting "elite" enemies to fight. You guys made it sound like that wasn't the case. If someone were to make the argument that (outside bosses) the enemy design is better here than DMC3 I could believe that. The color gimmick stuff is a nuisance, but I don't pay it much mind. Overall I'm having fun, but really crappy bosses and a tad bit too much platforming (or just walking, jesus) bums me out.
Haha, it is funny comparing this game to Heavenly Sword. That game is so supremely shitty yet here we have a competent action game from the same dev. Like hell freezing over or something.
EDIT: I think the whole system of angel/devil weapons tied to the shoulders is kind of busted. It just confuses my brain. Maybe I'm retarded, but I still fuck it up sometimes. The worse is when I push circle instead of square after switching from angel to devil.
EDIT: Is a maxed out "Drive" attack the best way to deal damage? Seems like it.
EDIT: On Donte and Vagisil: This Dante is fine. Vergil is just awful. They are both "acted" well, but compared to Dante Vergil's character is just lame. He isn't smart, he isn't bold, he isn't noble or evil. He has no presence and it bugs the hell out of me.
The boss in the club has way too much health. Took me while to figure out I should save DT until the damage I do actually matters. I ended up dying a few times from the boss just outlasting me (I don't use items) and it ate up too much time for what was a rather boring boss.
Boss fights are altogether rather weak. However that aside, there are plenty of interesting "elite" enemies to fight. You guys made it sound like that wasn't the case. If someone were to make the argument that (outside bosses) the enemy design is better here than DMC3 I could believe that. The color gimmick stuff is a nuisance, but I don't pay it much mind. Overall I'm having fun, but really crappy bosses and a tad bit too much platforming (or just walking, jesus) bums me out.
Haha, it is funny comparing this game to Heavenly Sword. That game is so supremely shitty yet here we have a competent action game from the same dev. Like hell freezing over or something.
EDIT: I think the whole system of angel/devil weapons tied to the shoulders is kind of busted. It just confuses my brain. Maybe I'm retarded, but I still fuck it up sometimes. The worse is when I push circle instead of square after switching from angel to devil.
EDIT: Is a maxed out "Drive" attack the best way to deal damage? Seems like it.
EDIT: On Donte and Vagisil: This Dante is fine. Vergil is just awful. They are both "acted" well, but compared to Dante Vergil's character is just lame. He isn't smart, he isn't bold, he isn't noble or evil. He has no presence and it bugs the hell out of me.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
considering the majority of people contributing to this thread are long time DMC vets, im going to conclude this post is full of shit.
Furthermore there is a big difference in saying that a game doesn't have the combat depth as the holy trinity and saying that western games are crap and awful. Its funny you even attempt to draw an analogy as every game you listed are action/adventure games rather than pure action.
In closing, keep your shitty strawmen to yourself please. The DMC fanbase is not a singular entity anymore than GAF is. It is perfectly reasonable to not like elements of this game, in its development and the final product, but still think its a good game. Likewise its perfectly reasonable to not like what it is as a Devil May Cry title.
in fairness all DMC supplementary material is bad but yeah..
Kat seriously must have some good pussy, either that or the smell of residual squirrel semen is a the greatest aphrodisiac to a nephillim
least we got penile spiral swords.
The comic or the DLC? Where?
Normal enemies are definitely more fun to fight than the bosses, the bosses are fucking garbage, lol.
Well some normal enemies.
Best damage dealers in the game are Trinity Smash, fully charged Snake Eyes and 6 stack Kablooey after that comes Perfect Drive. Perfect Drive is the best damage dealer at max range if you don't have the needles stacked. Revenant charged shot packs a punch too.
A full Feed Prop n Shredder does a lot of damage as well and it's a necessity when dealing with blue enemies in DMD.
Persecution complex, ahoy. This is a relatively safe haven for DmC fans.
Too bad about that Vergil graphic novel. Doesn't sound particularly good.
That's... genuinely awful.
Almost completely drives away my curiosity for whatever's gonna happen in the DLC.
I dunno, I didn't really have any major issues with the DMC3 manga. Quite enjoyed it, actually.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
that makes no sense.
A license to use middleware should be a single one off fee, it shouldn't be tied to the final product.
that has to be misinformation.
The comic at least explains how Vergil is able to travel through dimensions by literally cutting through them with his Yamato.
I guess they made a whole plot point from Vergil's Judgment Cut move in DMC3 where he seemingly cuts through dimensions for his attack.
I guess they made a whole plot point from Vergil's Judgment Cut move in DMC3 where he seemingly cuts through dimensions for his attack.
I read online that it's free until you make your first 50k after that you have to pay 25%. I couldn't believe it until I read it myself. Epic must be making huge bank from UE3.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Hmm. I just thought. Capcom is supposed to be making a movie of DmC aren't they?
I have a feeling that Idea has been ever so quietly killed. A DmC movie would be even worse than the RE ones.
DMC3 manga is pretty good. Shows a darker side to the series while still retaining the flavor. And yea there has been no news about the DMC movie.
Also here's where I read about UE3:
http://www.macstories.net/tag/unreal-engine-3/
Also here's where I read about UE3:
http://www.macstories.net/tag/unreal-engine-3/
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
you are right.
http://www.unrealengine.com/udk/licensing/commercial_license_terms/
Ouch. Moreso than DmC, that must mean that asura wrath was a really costly game for capcom. It defo didn't cover its costs and with the engine license terms, probably cost them a bunch of money.
No wonder they didn't lower the price.
And as Ive said before, Not lowering the DmC price soon will be disastrous to any future sales of the game. It could of have had a resurgence at 40 dollars, because there are plenty who would be willing to jump in who would love the game.
Right now, I think its only doing slightly better than Enslaved overall.
UDK commercial licensing is almost certainly not the same as what the big studios get. Big studios get different terms and a loooot more access to the internals of the engine than UDK gets you. It's the difference between making a Source mod and licensing the full engine from Valve.
NoirVisage
Banned
I found DMC 1 really off-putting, with the getting stabbed by a sword in the chest all the time, really odd story, and having to button mash doors for them to open. I didn't like 3 much either.
This is the first DMC I really get into. I love the flow of the combat, the visuals, the soundtrack. It's almost as good as Bayonetta! I hope this game gets a sequel
*Yawn* i know i'm a broken record, but seriously, "Target market reached"..unfortunately for Ccopam that market is smaller than they realized.
Mission 12 was completely different (there is not a single concept of the Under Siege level we have), and looks like it would explore what we saw in the reveal trailer. There are also some pretty neat locations and enemies.
direct_quote
Member
Actually I think for big developers it says over 700k flat to license full UE3 with access to source code (guess 25% was for UDK only not UE3 access). But they don't cite any actual numbers for that license just estimates I guess?
http://devmaster.net/devdb/engines/unreal-engine-3
Seems like they are pretty secretive about it for some reason..
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