Paul McGann is the baddest Doctor.
It only gets weird when they start reminding themselves they're married when they're the only ones in the room.
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Paul McGann is the baddest Doctor.
It only gets weird when they start reminding themselves they're married when they're the only ones in the room.
Bobby Roberts
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Nah, we've seen that he'll just grow a whole new body from there, like Wolverine.
Jack isn't the Face of Boe. It's a goof.
peanutbutterlatte
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I think the entire point is that it was up for interpretation. You can think it's a goof if you want.
That's if he is killed by having his head cut off. We know headless monks' heads stay alive. It makes perfect sense. From now on this actually happened.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Of course he's killed by having his head cut off. He's not a headless monk.
It's a goof. I believe Davies is on the record somewhere as saying it was a goof, like on a commentary or something. I've seen it quoted in here before, too.
It doesn't even really follow that his head would turn into a super-sized giant muppet-head over all those years anyway.
peanutbutterlatte
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I mean it doesn't really follow that he'd be granted immortality by magic dust from the time vortex, but ah well. Willing to suspend my disbelief on this one.
Of course he's killed by having his head cut off. He's not a headless monk.
It's a goof. I believe Davies is on the record somewhere as saying it was a goof, like on a commentary or something. I've seen it quoted in here before, too.
I mean, who would want it any other way after this scene?
Of course he's killed by having his head cut off. He's not a headless monk.
Dorium's head seemed pretty alive after being forcibly removed from his neck.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Eh. He ain't Boe.
But if you like it, Boe be upon you!
the glories of fiction
But if you like it, Boe be upon you!
the glories of fiction
nckillthegrimace
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Dorium's head seemed pretty alive after being forcibly removed from his neck.
Dorium should replace Clara.
Fixed.
peanutbutterlatte
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Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I really dig him, and he's really the draw.
He is one sarcastic, superior dude a lot of the time. Even in Night of the Doctor.
I like it.
That's baddest in the 80's "I'm bad, you know it" sense, right? Because if you're trying to imply my beloved 8th is at the bottom of the pile, I will have to demand satisfaction, ask you to roll up your shirtsleeves, Queensberry Rules, ect.
Oh, man yeah. I remember there was one of his adventures I was listening to where he's trapped in a torture chamber and even as they're getting all the implements of agony ready to go, he's casually chatting away with his soon to be torturer about how statistically ineffective torture actually is. It doesn't even sound like he's trying to convince the guy, he's just passing the time. What a badass. And so classy!
APZonerunner
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In Moffat's defence, I think that purely happened because he knew he had to establish strong characters with which he could springboard 12, the same way Jackie, Mickey, Rose and even Harriet Jones are used in The Christmas Invasion. He knew Clara alone might not be enough. He has consistently said The Eleventh Hour is both his most proud moment but also his most painful piece of work, and he didn't want to go through that again. That's fair enough.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Not bad meaning bad but bad meaning GOOD.
(record scratch)
There it is
(take me to the mardi gras sample)
Dark Eyes 4 moved to March
http://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/dark-eyes-4---cover-and-new-release-date
Also:
Hooray!
http://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/dark-eyes-4---cover-and-new-release-date
Also:
Hooray!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Like most of his stuff I can respect the intention, things just fall apart in the execution :/
Bobby Roberts
Banned
More Eighth Doctor after Dark Eyes, huh?
Wonder what direction we're going to go here.
Also wonder if we're gonna end Dark Eyes with the Master making a mention of hiding out at the end of the universe...
I was looking for some possible news on the christmas special/series 9. Didn't find anything, but I came across this:
For some reason I enjoy this sort of stuff. Misconceptions about who did what and the like. Which reminds me, I should pick up the Writer's Tale, I've put it off long enough and need some behind the scenes glimpse of Who.
For some reason I enjoy this sort of stuff. Misconceptions about who did what and the like. Which reminds me, I should pick up the Writer's Tale, I've put it off long enough and need some behind the scenes glimpse of Who.
Quick Mustard
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Happy 51st Birthday Doctor Who!
This time last year I was at the Celebration Event in London enjoying all the sights and sounds!
Here's to another fantastic year!
This time last year I was at the Celebration Event in London enjoying all the sights and sounds!
Here's to another fantastic year!
infiniteloop
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Happy Birthday!
Going to watch Unearthly Child in about 3 hours.
Going to watch Unearthly Child in about 3 hours.
Exterminieren
Banned
A year on from The Day of the Doctor. My God.
On that note, I was listening to the soundtrack today, and man alive did we ever get screwed over by the broadcast soundtrack. This should have accompanied the Curator/ All of the Doctors stood before Gallifrey sequence.
On that note, I was listening to the soundtrack today, and man alive did we ever get screwed over by the broadcast soundtrack. This should have accompanied the Curator/ All of the Doctors stood before Gallifrey sequence.
Really strange decisions all around with that soundtrack. I wonder what the logic behind that was. :S
Exterminieren
Banned
It's madness.
Clara riding the bike to the TARDIS was accompanied by her bog-standard theme in the broadcast episode. It was intended to be scored with the back half of this.
The Doctors emerging from the painting in the Black Archives was accompanied by another go of The Majestic Tale, while it was meant to go with this.
Hell, they did a lovely rearrangement of The Majestic Tale for the very last scene, and replaced it with one taken directly from the Series 6 soundtrack for the episode itself!
Baffling. Did they just want to fill it up to the gunnels with pre-existing music to appeal to a wider audience, or what? I love The Majestic Tale, but it was EVERYWHERE in that special.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
One year anniversary of the first time I saw Who.
JonathanEx
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Whaaaaat all round
As it was essentially a film, can we get the BBC to do a director's cut sort of thing, throw in the tiny deleted bits, tweaks here and there, and go back to the unused music.
Plus you could then sell the DVD all over again in a year's time. Come on Worldwide, you should be all over this shit!
As it was essentially a film, can we get the BBC to do a director's cut sort of thing, throw in the tiny deleted bits, tweaks here and there, and go back to the unused music.
Plus you could then sell the DVD all over again in a year's time. Come on Worldwide, you should be all over this shit!
paradox121
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I can't believe it's been a year already. That was such crazy fun seeing the 50th in the cinemas.
It's also weird and perhaps slightly sad how far away the 11th Doctor era seems. A lot of people have said similar, but even if Moffat is still in charge the show has felt completely fresh and new this year. Good way to start the next 50 I guess.
Also re: the music discussion, it's crazy the choices the sound people make, be it in terms of soundtracks or mixing. Thats why I can't wait for the Series 8 soundtrack. Already looking to hearing the clean version of a whole lot of tracks from that.
It's also weird and perhaps slightly sad how far away the 11th Doctor era seems. A lot of people have said similar, but even if Moffat is still in charge the show has felt completely fresh and new this year. Good way to start the next 50 I guess.
Also re: the music discussion, it's crazy the choices the sound people make, be it in terms of soundtracks or mixing. Thats why I can't wait for the Series 8 soundtrack. Already looking to hearing the clean version of a whole lot of tracks from that.
APZonerunner
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I can see why some of these were cut, to be honest. The first one is weird and off to the tone of that scene, I think, and the Black Archives one has that awful guitar synth Gold always uses that is plainly and obviously fake (it's used in Series 3 and Series 6 a bit, too) and so on. It may be worse for me as I do a bit of music stuff for a hobby and I know precisely what synth - what setting, even - it is. But when you have a full orchestra, how do you not even get a live guitar?
The last one is a bit more baffling. Part of me wonders if it just wasn't done in time, so it went out with some already existing stuff but the recording was already done and so they mixed it for the soundtrack release.
I feel in general like since about Series 4 Gold has been stifled a bit. If you look at Series 2 and 3 in particular, almost every episode in those series' have their own unique language to them. Fairly bog standard episodes like Tooth & Claw and The Lazarus Experiment have their own action themes not repeated anywhere else, The Impossible Planet has its own signature sound, even Love & Monsters has themes of its own.
By Series 4 this begins to evaporate, and by Series 6 individual episode themes are gone almost completely unless they belong to a specific enemy, IE the Cybermen sound, whatever. It got a bit better in Series 7's second half, maybe because Gold had more time or maybe because the production team realized that when you do it every episode 'I Am the Doctor' isn't a shortcut to excitement. This year has probably been the best score year since Series 3, that said.
I was rewatching season 3 and 4, and was blown away at the variety of the music.
APZonerunner
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On the subject of the Day of the Doctor, here's another track (when the Doctor is being tracked by the Daleks and he writes 'no more' with the gun) where a lovely action-based variation of 'This is Gallifrey' was replaced with bloody I Am The Doctor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrLhlrbqijA God. Such a wonderful piece of music ground into the dirt with overuse.
It's just weird. A lot of my favourite pieces of music Murray has done have ended up being one-offs like...
The Carrionites Swarm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUQQwiYpaSE
Tooth & Claw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1FYPTa72eA
Just Scarecrows to War: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AumROBL_Z_0
There's a hell of a lot of it in Series 5, to be fair - Vampires of Venice has a real belter of a theme running through it - but it really disappears in S6/7A. It's not there so much this year, but the score is much more understated, which is the best way to do it if you're using a smaller pool of music. I was really appreciative they held back on a full blast of Capaldi's theme until the very last episode.
There's still a lot of original music, but interestingly, the focus seems to flip after Series 5 - in that S2-4 and to a lesser extent 5 use big, bombastic episode themes unique to that episode but repeat the more ambient music throughout the series. Recently it's been more the opposite - for Matt's latter series' it was a lot of 'I Am The Doctor' for the big action sequences, with the original pieces for each episode used instead in the quieter moments. It's just a different approach, but my opinion on it is that the memorable stuff is better loaded as the loud stuff, as that really helps to texture the episode. People aren't paying as much attention to the intricacies of the score when there's dialogue over it, whereas during a chase or action sequence when it's belting at full-blast, people feel it more more keenly, and remember it. The Tooth & Claw score is really clever, for instance, as the monk chanting and drums that are in the introductory scene of the episode are laced throughout the chase music later on and serve of a sort of reminder that the wolf has come from this monk cult.
It's just weird. A lot of my favourite pieces of music Murray has done have ended up being one-offs like...
The Carrionites Swarm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUQQwiYpaSE
Tooth & Claw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1FYPTa72eA
Just Scarecrows to War: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AumROBL_Z_0
There's a hell of a lot of it in Series 5, to be fair - Vampires of Venice has a real belter of a theme running through it - but it really disappears in S6/7A. It's not there so much this year, but the score is much more understated, which is the best way to do it if you're using a smaller pool of music. I was really appreciative they held back on a full blast of Capaldi's theme until the very last episode.
There's still a lot of original music, but interestingly, the focus seems to flip after Series 5 - in that S2-4 and to a lesser extent 5 use big, bombastic episode themes unique to that episode but repeat the more ambient music throughout the series. Recently it's been more the opposite - for Matt's latter series' it was a lot of 'I Am The Doctor' for the big action sequences, with the original pieces for each episode used instead in the quieter moments. It's just a different approach, but my opinion on it is that the memorable stuff is better loaded as the loud stuff, as that really helps to texture the episode. People aren't paying as much attention to the intricacies of the score when there's dialogue over it, whereas during a chase or action sequence when it's belting at full-blast, people feel it more more keenly, and remember it. The Tooth & Claw score is really clever, for instance, as the monk chanting and drums that are in the introductory scene of the episode are laced throughout the chase music later on and serve of a sort of reminder that the wolf has come from this monk cult.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Rewatching Flatline I'm reminded of another one of my favorite moments, just some amazing stuff in that episode
"Like a de-flattener?"
"*scornfully* We're not calling the de-flattener. See what I called it?"
"Two-dee-is, the two-dee-is?"
"No the twodis, its called the twodis!"
"Like a de-flattener?"
"*scornfully* We're not calling the de-flattener. See what I called it?"
"Two-dee-is, the two-dee-is?"
"No the twodis, its called the twodis!"
If there is any musical moment of DW I can't wait to see in my lifetime, it's the Doctor opening the TARDIS doors to his home planet with "This Is Gallifrey" slowly building until he walks onto the planet.
Of course, the production team could always throw a twist and have it revealed that Gallifrey is in a state of civil war ahaha.
Of course, the production team could always throw a twist and have it revealed that Gallifrey is in a state of civil war ahaha.
acheron_xl
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It's better that the words 'two dimensions in space' weren't explicitly spelled out.
An Adventure in Space and Time was my favorite thing about the 50th celebrations, followed by The Five(ish) Doctors (make sure check this one out too if you haven't).
Doctor Who's YouTube channel just posted a highlights video of the S8 DVD launch panel.
Haven't watched it yet, so no idea if there's anything interesting in there.
Haven't watched it yet, so no idea if there's anything interesting in there.
Huh. I thought I remembered that name, I liked her work on Torchwood so good news.
APZonerunner
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Out of Time would've been a great Doctor Who episode with the Torchwood adult-isms removed. And Meat - lordy, that was a grim episode! Approved. Glad she's on board.
Hot Coldman
Banned
fucking finally, holy shit
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Oh, man. One of my friends decided she was finally ready to dive in the deep end of the Whovian obsession and start the show from the real beginning. She's partway through Hartnell's run and I showed her Adventure just last Friday. She bawled like a little baby. Kept remarking on how spot on they got so much of the cast. Of the cast from the show, she said they cast Hartnell the best, obviously. She commented that it was just perfect. She felt like they cast Ian closer than they did Barbara and that Susan was the furthest off, but that this was for the best because, "When she's acting as Susan, she's not nearly annoying enough."
When he looks up and sees Matt Smith looking back at him, she just lost it. Also completely lost it at "I don't wanna go". Described it as a one-two punch in that it was dramatically impactful in and of itself, plus it hammered her with all the feels of when Tennant left all over again.
Exterminieren
Banned
Word of warning about that Tregenna listing- they do generally commission more scripts than they have slots available for any given series. Tregenna is definitely writing one of these, but there's no guarantee that it'll be picked.
We've heard of Amanda Coe, Jack Lothian and John Fay writing scripts for previous seasons that never got picked up, so don't get your hopes too high.
We've heard of Amanda Coe, Jack Lothian and John Fay writing scripts for previous seasons that never got picked up, so don't get your hopes too high.
APZonerunner
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Of course he's killed by having his head cut off. He's not a headless monk.
It's a goof. I believe Davies is on the record somewhere as saying it was a goof, like on a commentary or something. I've seen it quoted in here before, too.
It doesn't even really follow that his head would turn into a super-sized giant muppet-head over all those years anyway.
In this DVD commentary Davies actually goes into deep detail about it all, explaining to Tennant. It is canon: http://www.david-tennant.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/utopia_dvd_com.mp3
Long story short, it's actually a bit vital that he is. The Jacobi incarnation of The Master awakens as a child on The Silver Devastation, which is where the Boe are from. (Interestingly, Boe still appear to be a species of their own) - and it's them who give him the name Yana, with that based off what was passed down (You Are Not Alone) from one of their great leaders, The Face of Boe, who died long before (Gridlock). It's a destination paradox loop.
Quick Mustard
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Already bought the iTunes version but I wanted the physical version as well.
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