Also River being a time lord too. The being conceived on the TARDIS always felt like a weak explanation to me.
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Also River being a time lord too. The being conceived on the TARDIS always felt like a weak explanation to me.
The Real Abed
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The thing is we've seen Rory as a child. Amy grew up with him.
Time lords can't regenerate back into child form?
Anyways I don't actually think Rory is the Master, I just think it would be hilarious and awesome if it turned out he was.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Professor Yana was found as a child, wasn't he?
That said:
a) We've met Rory's father
b) This whole theory is completely idiotic anyway
ScreenSplitter
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Rory is the Master ranks second only to Donna being the Master. Both are equally silly theories. I don't care how cute the girl is on the YouTube video.
I am absolutely devastated that I am working until 11 tonight. It's unlikely any Who fans will come into the resteraunt after 9, but if I overhear anybody spoil, they'll be wearing their Carbonara as a hat.
I am absolutely devastated that I am working until 11 tonight. It's unlikely any Who fans will come into the resteraunt after 9, but if I overhear anybody spoil, they'll be wearing their Carbonara as a hat.
ScreenSplitter
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Probably this video. Fan speculation is always fun, but Moffat's era is more about pushing his own characters (River, Weeping Angels, Amy & Rory) rather than paying homage to older Who villains as a big . I mean, he's not above referencing earlier eras with the Silurians and such, but I think the whole Master reveal has been done too many times, and in Yana's case was built up really well.
If the Master does come back under Moffat's tenure, I expect it to be done a lot better.
Hot Coldman
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Bring back John Simm.
What time's Angels on tonight?
What time's Angels on tonight?
1920 UK time.
ScreenSplitter
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Because Amy & Rory are leaving? Or the Beeb trying to fit the departure of arguably the two best companions ever into 45 minutes after they gave Rose "Boring" Tyler a double parter?
Hot Coldman
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Cheers.
Well it seemed like last week was kind of a farewell tour type of episode for the Ponds as well. But yes, hate Rose.
The Technomancer
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In the same season that they introduced the concept of the gangers! It was like the weirdest bait and switch ever, and not in a good way.
ScreenSplitter
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I just get annoyed that
A) They seem obsessed with splitting the series in half.
B) The only episode worthy of a two parter is apparently, a boring "He's the real ___"! Shoot him!" story.
ScreenSplitter
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Whoever decides it, I think it's a pretty silly idea. You could argue less is more, but this is Amy & Rory! They're far more deserving than some silly clone-off.
Hot Coldman
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The Gangers can't be everything, they'd already been Amy and Melody.
I once had a thought that an ingenious way they could do a surprise regeneration of the Doctor was to have him get a new companion who is all mysterious, go through a season throwing out hints that it's the Master or whatnot, then have it at the end of the season turn out that the companion was actually the next incarnation of the Doctor and end with the Doctor regenerating into them. The absence of the Doctor having the Tardis could even be explained, because the future version of that Doctor (the companion one) stole it from the newly regenerated one, leaving the regen one to be picked up by the past Doctor.
The Technomancer
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Maybe. I still think the Tessalecta, while not a strict DEM, was still really stupid and a cop-out. But then the real issue was that they set up the season with "The Doctor dies" probably knowing there was no way to really make that work.
JoshuaJSlone
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Yes. No better time than the 50th, and dude isn't getting any younger. Nearing 90.
I thought that was fine. If we the audience assume the Doctor has a workaround, at least we've been given multiple possibilities so we're not sure which it will be. Well, at least until they remind us about which one is important in a "Previously on".The Technomancer said:
The human gangers were "stabilized into normal humans" or whatever; same hokery could make a regeneratable Time Lord?BatDan said:
As a basic plot, not bad. But wouldn't it mean that there's a second TARDIS lying around somewhere? If you tie that up with the TARDIS blowing up, then Doctor Prime (actual Doctor) wouldn't have one to pick up Companion Doctor. And time itself would be screwed to begin with.
JoshuaJSlone
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Nah, it would just make the Doctor's/TARDIS's experience a bit nonlinear, though much less so than Doctor/River.
King of the Potato People
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Brian could be the Master using hypnosis, this explains why he didn't show up during the wedding.
No, you don't. The Tardis gets taken by Doctor X later in his timeline. After the revelation that the companion is the Doctor, he takes the Tardis from his newly regenerated version. That's why the new one doesn't have his - his future version stole it from himself!
The Technomancer
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Are we still talking about Rory here? Because as absolutely ludicrous and kinda stupid as that sounds it would make lines like "you're turning me into you!" that much better.
No, just musing on a thought I had. I don't think Rory is the future Doctor.
Hot Coldman
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I think it'd be neat if the Master was the one who founded the Silence, but lost control of it to the aliens. After all, no-one hates the Doctor more than him.
PhoncipleBone
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The Silence are just those copies of The Master from The End of Time that escaped Earth and went mad over the years.
That still means two TARDISes. Future Doctor wouldn't just abandon the TARDIS to be picked up by his past self's own. You just made a set event that goes in a circle: Doctor Prime travels with Companion Doctor, Doctor Prime regenerates into Companion Doctor, Companion Doctor ditches Doctor Prime, and Doctor Prime gets picked up by Doctor Prime-2, thus becoming Companion Doctor, and knowing what to do later on.
Ah, screw it. Wibbly Wobbly, Timey Wimey.
I really had to think that over. Really. :lol
ScreenSplitter
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The Tessalecta was beyond dumb. The whole "The Doctor dies" whilst it's still making the BBC mad cash was, inevitably, dumb. The ganger subplot was also pretty dumb. A good portion of Season 6 was just awful.
I actually really like this. Much better than the whole River thing.
Oh yes, probably. The ganger fluid is pretty much magic elixir, let's face it. It has no restrictions or limits, really.
I really like it just as a symbolic, clever writing thing than a literal thing. Moffat's a better writer than that... I think? This is the guy who gave us The DoctorBot 5000.
Is it really pure hatred? I always figured it was more a Joker/Batman relationship. The "Silence" would be a nice play on words after all that drum-beating though. I would say The Doctor name-dropping Master in S7E3 meant something, but we've already had mentions of Jack, Rose, Donna and Martha, (and technically Adric & others if you read into lines), but they're not coming back.
There aren't. If Doctor Ya (the one who has traveled as a Companion) immediately takes the Tardis after Doctor X has regenerated into Doctor Y, the loop is closed. That means that Doctor Y no longer has a Tardis (and never did), because Doctor Ya has it. Thus explaining why Doctor Y goes to become a companion with Doctor X, because he knows that at the end of it, he'll get his Tardis back.
The Tardis ownership thus goes thus: Doctor X (with Doctor Y as a companion unknowingly) -> Doctor Ya (Doctor Y after being a companion).
But this is getting a little too fanficcy and fanwanky, so I'm going to leave it as this.
PhoncipleBone
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So he willingly abandons himself?
Yes. Because he knows that he gets picked up by Doctor X, having lived through the events himself.
PhoncipleBone
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But you still have to have two Doctors after that. And would he really just leave himself stranded somewhere without Sexy?
Hot Coldman
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I don't think it was ever a Batman/Joker relationship. The Master is an egotist, and the Doctor is the only one who has stopped him from fulfilling his plans. From the Master's point of view, the Doctor's continued existence is the one obstacle to him becoming a god, essentially. He'd love to have him out of the picture.
Of course, he's also arrogant enough to keep around to show him the Earth burning, when he really should know better.
Just an hour and a half left right!? WHOO
King of the Potato People
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This reminds me.
Ten: "I forgive you"
Ten: "Davros, come with me"
A few years earlier, Ten: "No second chances. I'm that sort of a man" Ha ha.
DrForester
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BBC Player has opened my eyes to the hypnotism of people making fools of themselves on an obstacle course...
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It's time...
Bring on the bird people and angel human hybrids!
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It's time...
Bring on the bird people and angel human hybrids!
APZonerunner
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Here we go then. After seeing that trailer -- Is Merlin any good? Never actually watched it, but I know it was birthed off the back of Who's success.
DrForester
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