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Does Trophy/achievements add value to your gaming sessions?
- Thread starter Omnistalgic
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But there is completion. If you completed a mission, it's done. There is a way to see how many coins you've collected and all Platinum coins are added together.
Not all games on other platforms have a trophy/achievement for 100% completing everything either
Jaded Alyx
Member
They did talk about it - when they launched Nintendo Accounts and My Nintendo.
They haven't said if they will implement it on the Switch but I would be very surprised if they didn't.
Disagree Guy
Member
Before trophies I would very rarely attempt to 100% a game (apart from Final Fantasy)
Since trophies it definitely at least makes me want to attempt to 100% a game.
I wouldn't buy a game just for the trophies but I always check the trophy list before I buy a game and if I am torn between the choice of two games I go by whichever one has the better trophy list.
I am quite a completionist so I love that side of it. If they removed it I'd be pissed.
Since trophies it definitely at least makes me want to attempt to 100% a game.
I wouldn't buy a game just for the trophies but I always check the trophy list before I buy a game and if I am torn between the choice of two games I go by whichever one has the better trophy list.
I am quite a completionist so I love that side of it. If they removed it I'd be pissed.
You can also spend them on various downloads
https://my.nintendo.com/reward_categories/download_code
Or on discounts for full titles
https://my.nintendo.com/reward_categories/coupon
Unaha-Closp
Member
I have a few Platinum's and a few 1000/1000 gamerscore but I don't really care in general. If I really like a game I'll have a look if there are ones I can easily get but if I try and fail a few times I give up. I'm not too fussed if I get them or not. They are nice to have though - Steam needs a noise with them popping up though as that is half the fun of them.
Omnistalgic
Member
Yeah, it does...I definitely feel like I get more out of games. I won't ever go back and get 100% everything in my list, as I have stuff I think is kinda crappy or played once and never went back to. But yeah for my favorites, I get the 'completionist' bug.
xrnzaaas
Member
Yes they do, but I like to draw a line that I won't cross. I have a lot of 80-90% finished games, because going for the platinum in them would be a chore (I'm talking about serious obstacles like having to replay the entire game under new rules or go after hundreds of collectibles).
Falchion
Member
Absolutely because it gets me to try new gameplay styles and challenges that I wouldn't have on my own. I usually find the most efficient way of playing and repeat but a good set of achievements will force me to be better rounded as a player, ultimately creating a better experience.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Sain Drevia
Member
Every time I commit myself to getting a platinum (which is rare, and normally just for games I really like), I end up resenting the game by the time I get that last trophy. Now, to be fair, I only have 5 Plats, but I think I'm done messing with them. I'd rather just play the game until I'm tired of playing it, rather than forging along for no real good reason.
A good recent example of this was Doom. Even though it was a relatively easy one to 100%, I got so tired of playing the game by the time I reached the end that I couldn't really care less. It was such a hollow feeling.
A good recent example of this was Doom. Even though it was a relatively easy one to 100%, I got so tired of playing the game by the time I reached the end that I couldn't really care less. It was such a hollow feeling.
Rarely actually go for 100% achievements, however I think games usually should have even more of them.
I like it when a game covers every single challenge it might have. Does it have more than 1 character? Add an achievement for finishing it with each of them. Does it have multiple difficulty levels? One for each. 50 bosses? One for each.
It'just fun going back and looking at what I've done and maybe take a challenge that's worth my time.
I have no difficulty simply ignoring those boring and/or grindy ones though, no need at all for that 100%.
I like it when a game covers every single challenge it might have. Does it have more than 1 character? Add an achievement for finishing it with each of them. Does it have multiple difficulty levels? One for each. 50 bosses? One for each.
It'just fun going back and looking at what I've done and maybe take a challenge that's worth my time.
I have no difficulty simply ignoring those boring and/or grindy ones though, no need at all for that 100%.
Omnistalgic
Member
ok...But I'm getting some conflicting info here. Are you not currently able to see this progress on your 3DS or WiiU yet?
DrunkShogun
Member
None but it's a nice feeling when you unknowingly get a platinum trophy in a game. Highlights the fact it was a good game. Persona 4 golden was such a game.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Rarely. I stopped paying attention to them years ago for the most part.
Sometimes I'll use them to set goals in open ended games like Forza Horizon 3 I guess. Chipping away at doing all the exhibitions and championships after maxing all festival sites for instance.
Story driven games? I beat them and move on. MP games? I play until I'm sick of it and move on.
Too many times getting frustrated and/or playing games long after I was bored of them back on 360 when achievements were new.
Sometimes I'll use them to set goals in open ended games like Forza Horizon 3 I guess. Chipping away at doing all the exhibitions and championships after maxing all festival sites for instance.
Story driven games? I beat them and move on. MP games? I play until I'm sick of it and move on.
Too many times getting frustrated and/or playing games long after I was bored of them back on 360 when achievements were new.
Fix-It Felix. Jr.
Member
Trophies definitely add value to my gaming experience. Many trophy lists can expand the life of a game for me, as well as encourage me to approach the game from perspectives that I may otherwise not consider. I mean, I don't go out of my way to do stuff that I find mundane - but if it seems like an interesting goal to stride towards, then I'll give it an honest attempt.
Additionally, they provide a loose record of playtime and progress through a game, which is nice since Sony won't give us our playtime through normal means.
Additionally, they provide a loose record of playtime and progress through a game, which is nice since Sony won't give us our playtime through normal means.
Linkstrikesback
Member
I know that. The my nintendo "discounts" are utter jokes, and would be laughed off for even calling them sales on any other ecosystem, let alone a reward. And the 3DS themes speak for themselves. There's a good reason the mynintendo thread is full of negativity, the reward service is crap (especially compared to club nintendo beforehand).
isaacnukem
Member
Yes. They're optional objectives and if done right add immense value to a game.
John Kowalski
Banned
Not at all. System level rewards as boring af...
Disagree Guy
Member
As much as I hate online trophies too it does give me a reason to try the online aspect of a game I would otherwise have no interest in at all.
Like Assassins Creed when they had the online trophies
theechrisfox
Member
It adds nearly nothing for me. Still, I do rarely go out of my way to finish trophies if I know a platinum is attainable. I have only done this for Odin Sphere and FFXV. I think the coolest function of trophies is seeing what percentage of the player base has attained it. It is slightly satisfying to see when you are in the ~5% of players who downed the Nameless King.
100%TrophyMaster
Member
I have an addiction to getting all trophies in every game I play. I truly enjoy it though and look at it as a challenge. I know it is not normal but it works for me. I get some weird sense of ultimate satisfaction doing it and finishing a game.
I really like this example - trophies/cheevos not only give you a reason to stick around with a game after you've beaten it, but provide interesting opportunities to encourage more experimentation with gameplay and mechanics.
Disagree Guy
Member
You haven't truly completed a game until that platinum pops. I know that feeling man.
It's triumph haha
Inferno313
Banned
For a time, last gen, I enjoyed them.
Now I completely ignore them.
Now I completely ignore them.
JimmyRustler
Member
I think the whole system is great for people who don't do optional things in games just for the sake of it.
For instance, wouldn't it be for trophies I would not be playing Uncharted now on Crushing difficulty but most certainly just move on to the next game. Instead I am fighting myself through Crushing now and enjoying it immensely. Without the trophy I would never do that.
So I'd say this system really is made for people who are not a completionist by default.
Really love the community behind it nowadays as it's really easy to snuff out the games with stupid and annoying trophies and also you can find help/guides for most of them easily.
For instance, wouldn't it be for trophies I would not be playing Uncharted now on Crushing difficulty but most certainly just move on to the next game. Instead I am fighting myself through Crushing now and enjoying it immensely. Without the trophy I would never do that.
So I'd say this system really is made for people who are not a completionist by default.
Really love the community behind it nowadays as it's really easy to snuff out the games with stupid and annoying trophies and also you can find help/guides for most of them easily.
Damn Silly
Member
Yeah, I'm a completionist, so I enjoy going for 100% if I can. Can't be bothered with online achievements though.
calc84maniac
Member
It adds value until that one trophy that makes you grind a million points in a minigame... then I feel like I have to do it because I'm stuck at 97℅ completion
TheSteelCondor
Neo Member
I find that when I earn some trophies or achievements during a session that I feel like I actually accomplished something. I know they are worthless, but I still would love to have something similar on the Switch.
Yeah, they definitely add to a game if I enjoy it enough. I've actually found myself doing things I would usually just skip previously to get a trophy. Course, I don't force myself if the trophy starts to feel like it's becoming a chore.
It probably wouldn't be the only deciding factor in whether or not I pick up a Switch but it'd definitely factor into my decision.
It probably wouldn't be the only deciding factor in whether or not I pick up a Switch but it'd definitely factor into my decision.
Rad Shadow
Banned
Yes. I really want Nintendo to add Stars or something.
ScaryShark
Banned
Yes. It's the way I maximize my time with a game. It often makes me play the game differently than I normally would.
Without trophies I'd bounce off games way quicker than I do now and I'm glad they give me something to aim for beyond getting from point A to Z.
Without trophies I'd bounce off games way quicker than I do now and I'm glad they give me something to aim for beyond getting from point A to Z.
Rellik
Member
Yep. I had put like 100 hours into Witcher 3 and still didn't feel like it was done until that platinum popped for me.
Back in the 360 days I did anything and everything to get achievements. I eventually stopped around 96,000 gamerscore and moved to the PS3 where trophies didn't click with me. Now, on the PS4, I only go for a platinum if I really enjoyed the game, like my above example of Witcher 3.
Absolutely.
Being able to look up achievements and now being able to see the percentage completed can tell you some interesting information. For example, in Metal Gear Solid V, only 3% of the entire player base received the "Accomplished" achievement, which requires completing all missions.
That's it, just complete all missions, and you get the achievement. 97% of the people who played the game on Xbox One didn't even manage to do that, which I find to be really interesting. More recently, in FFXV, around 5% of the total players on Xbox have gotten the achievement for defeating
, and only 25% have actually beaten the game.
Also, comparing against friends is always fun. The achievement leaderboard is a competitive little way to keep me interested in my backlog, so I stay in the lead. Being able to go in and look at other peoples achievements is also pretty cool, seeing what games they got the 100% (or close to it) will tell you plenty about what kind of games they like, and particular achievements will let you know exactly how far in the game they made it.
Lastly, call me a completionist cause I just don't feel like I've truly 100% a game until that last achievement comes up.
Being able to look up achievements and now being able to see the percentage completed can tell you some interesting information. For example, in Metal Gear Solid V, only 3% of the entire player base received the "Accomplished" achievement, which requires completing all missions.
That's it, just complete all missions, and you get the achievement. 97% of the people who played the game on Xbox One didn't even manage to do that, which I find to be really interesting. More recently, in FFXV, around 5% of the total players on Xbox have gotten the achievement for defeating
Adamantoise
Also, comparing against friends is always fun. The achievement leaderboard is a competitive little way to keep me interested in my backlog, so I stay in the lead. Being able to go in and look at other peoples achievements is also pretty cool, seeing what games they got the 100% (or close to it) will tell you plenty about what kind of games they like, and particular achievements will let you know exactly how far in the game they made it.
Lastly, call me a completionist cause I just don't feel like I've truly 100% a game until that last achievement comes up.
shortsoptional
Member
Really enjoy them.
I don't usually spend a lot of time on multiplayer trophies, but if I really enjoy a game, it can give me a new reason to go back and enjoy it in a different way.
I do understand the folks who give it no value.
I would like to see rewards for platinum's/achievements like when I got a free theme for Bloodborne. I think that's a fun thing developers should explore.
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I don't usually spend a lot of time on multiplayer trophies, but if I really enjoy a game, it can give me a new reason to go back and enjoy it in a different way.
I do understand the folks who give it no value.
I would like to see rewards for platinum's/achievements like when I got a free theme for Bloodborne. I think that's a fun thing developers should explore.
Also this