Mercury Fred
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Boogie said:
I was assuming it was 12-15. Sigh.
Oh well- Eric GCA, try getting laid. The best anitdote to all of the hate that you spew is a little lovin'. That is, if any girls will have you.
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Does your girlfriend need her birth-control refilled?? TOO BAD!!!!
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I was assuming it was 12-15. Sigh.
Oh well- Eric GCA, try getting laid. The best anitdote to all of the hate that you spew is a little lovin'. That is, if any girls will have you.
Mercury Fred
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Boogie said:And everyone used to think I was 16 too. Must be some inherent denial among most of you that virgins exist past the age of 20
Oh, my guess on his age wasn't about his being a virgin or not. It was more about his cartoony anti-sex attitude for everyone else.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
Thou Shalt Not Kill
with made up quotes!
"Abortion is murder and it shall be outlawed. Life is precious and should be preserved at all costs."
"It's an americans right to have guns. I don't care that the death from firearms statistics is way above the abortion rate! Life isn't previous if it's not little soft pink babies! We need WAY more babies to stem the upcoming pensions crisis in 20 years time (and if some nice people could shoot more near pension age people, all's the better!"
with made up quotes!
"Abortion is murder and it shall be outlawed. Life is precious and should be preserved at all costs."
"It's an americans right to have guns. I don't care that the death from firearms statistics is way above the abortion rate! Life isn't previous if it's not little soft pink babies! We need WAY more babies to stem the upcoming pensions crisis in 20 years time (and if some nice people could shoot more near pension age people, all's the better!"
Hitokage said:
Er, I'm confused. How would promoting abstinence be "ignoring the human sexual drive"? There are many things folks desire, but generally people have the ability to choose whether or not to persue that desire, depending upon themselves and their situation. The general idea behind abstinence is to hold off on sex until marriage -- NOT to hold off on sex forever (that's celibacy).
... and, technically, not having sex -is- the only way to ensure against sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy. It might not be the way many people want to go about that, but it is the only completely efffective way.
(Sheesh... it's always the people who want to "defend freedom" who are first to attack the assumed opinions of others.)
Hitokage said:
Do you understand the difference between the "only" solution and the best or most effective solution? You're changing what Hito said in order to argue against it.David Dayton said:
Oh, I get it. You don't have reading comprehension problems. You just really like irony.David Dayton said:
WasabiKing
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Abstinence is such a novel ideal, and exists in the land of unicorns and pink elephants. Since the world that I live in has kids in the 7th grade having sex and girls getting pregnant by freshman year of high school, I'd rather see options made readily available instead of shame tactics and effectively forcing someone to give birth to a child.
Of course, there is always adoption, and I think that's a great route for anyone who is against abortion but cannot keep their child. But if you don't want to go through that, and now realize what you did is a mistake, make the morning-after pill available over the counter so the general populace won't have to financially subsidize the unwanted child through state, local, and federal programs.
Of course, there is always adoption, and I think that's a great route for anyone who is against abortion but cannot keep their child. But if you don't want to go through that, and now realize what you did is a mistake, make the morning-after pill available over the counter so the general populace won't have to financially subsidize the unwanted child through state, local, and federal programs.
jecclr2003
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Loki, yes we kind of buck the trend. I've been with my wife now since she was a freshman in HS. We had a short period during college where we split, I ended up tagging a hot, but messed in the head, latina. This poor girl had a smoking body, but she had more baggage than most airlines. Long story on that one, I'll have to go into detail about this girl sometime.
Anyway, we got back together after about 1 month and a half of breaking it off. Moved in with each other about 4 years ago and got married last September. Granted, I don't want to be around her this week. Lets just say it the green pills period. I'll just put in Halo 2 and try to ignore the bitchyness.
Just to force the point a little more, she originally started on the pill to help with her cycles. They were putting her on the floor with cramping. So at the age of 15 her mom took her to get on it to help regulate it. Granted we did partake of the other benfits of being on the pill.
Anyway, we got back together after about 1 month and a half of breaking it off. Moved in with each other about 4 years ago and got married last September. Granted, I don't want to be around her this week. Lets just say it the green pills period. I'll just put in Halo 2 and try to ignore the bitchyness.
Just to force the point a little more, she originally started on the pill to help with her cycles. They were putting her on the floor with cramping. So at the age of 15 her mom took her to get on it to help regulate it. Granted we did partake of the other benfits of being on the pill.
jecclr2003
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I find it odd that people with morals, ethics and happen o be religious are now being construed as "dumb". Why is that?
None of there are a bad thing, it's when some people just let one get out of hand that it becomes an issue.
As a country we've been accused for the past couple of decades of having no morals or ethics and now that we do, the country as a whole is viewed as "dumb" for it.
Welcome to 2004, where morality, ethics and/or being of religious nature is EVIL!
II can understand the lady not want to fill the pills ue to her "morality", but thats not her lace to decide that this woman shouldn't be able to get it filled by another pharmacist or another pharmacy. Sorry pharmacist a REAL doctor filled out that prescription and it's your JOB to fill it. Put the wheel in the bag and don't force your morality on others. You make the rest of us look bad.
None of there are a bad thing, it's when some people just let one get out of hand that it becomes an issue.
As a country we've been accused for the past couple of decades of having no morals or ethics and now that we do, the country as a whole is viewed as "dumb" for it.
Welcome to 2004, where morality, ethics and/or being of religious nature is EVIL!
II can understand the lady not want to fill the pills ue to her "morality", but thats not her lace to decide that this woman shouldn't be able to get it filled by another pharmacist or another pharmacy. Sorry pharmacist a REAL doctor filled out that prescription and it's your JOB to fill it. Put the wheel in the bag and don't force your morality on others. You make the rest of us look bad.
I'm pretty sure you're proving jecclr's point here pimpwerx.Pimpwerx said:Well, it can be argued that believing in a god who's never shown him/her/itself is pretty fucking "dumb" by itself...but I digress. And for the record I once believed in God. I think it was pretty dumb now too, but only b/c I'm enlightened. :lol
jecclr2003
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Thanks pimpwerx, you've proven my point.
Pimpwerx, just becaue you haven't seen pussy since you were born doesn't mean it doesn't exist right?
Someone having faith in something is not a bad thing by any means. Just because you can't prove something does or doesn't exist doesn't mean no one else should believe in a God or Buddah or Allah or whatever.
Do you truthfully feel that having no faith makes you "elightened"? I'd love for you to tell us how so. I'm not a religous person myself, but thats for my own reasons. I don't find myself any more or less "enlightened" for that. I do believe in the ideals of the Christian faith as the commandments are a good road map to a decent life. Does that make me "dumb" by your thinking? If so, you need to look in the mirror and discover your ignorance.
Pimpwerx, just becaue you haven't seen pussy since you were born doesn't mean it doesn't exist right?
Someone having faith in something is not a bad thing by any means. Just because you can't prove something does or doesn't exist doesn't mean no one else should believe in a God or Buddah or Allah or whatever.
Do you truthfully feel that having no faith makes you "elightened"? I'd love for you to tell us how so. I'm not a religous person myself, but thats for my own reasons. I don't find myself any more or less "enlightened" for that. I do believe in the ideals of the Christian faith as the commandments are a good road map to a decent life. Does that make me "dumb" by your thinking? If so, you need to look in the mirror and discover your ignorance.
FortNinety
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Wow, its been barely a week and this country is on an even faster track to going to hell.
DCharlie said:Thou Shalt Not Kill
with made up quotes!
"Abortion is murder and it shall be outlawed. Life is precious and should be preserved at all costs."
"It's an americans right to have guns. I don't care that the death from firearms statistics is way above the abortion rate! Life isn't previous if it's not little soft pink babies! We need WAY more babies to stem the upcoming pensions crisis in 20 years time (and if some nice people could shoot more near pension age people, all's the better!"
You may have heard this, but a common and sensible attack on the Republican stance on abortion goes something like this "Republicans need live babies so they can turn them into dead soldiers."
Oh what a brilliant analogy. Can I google up an image of god? Can I pull down a girl's pants and see God? I can prove pussy exists; can you prove God exists?
Belief in vagina: based on fact
Belief in God: purely based on faith...in other words a belief based on a need or want to believe and nothing else.
Yes, by some means it is. Case in point: history of mankind. Also, forcing the ideologies based on ancient religious scripture onto others who don't give a shit, don't believe in it and don't agree with it.
This goes beyond having "morals". Some of the most moral people I've known weren't religious, or at least deeply religious and were a hell of a lot open-minded than the fundamenalist nutcases we're talking about in this thread. You say (or someone say) the world has been accusing us of having no morals, but don't try to tell me that limiting gay rights and opposing the sinful act of preventing a sperm from hitting an egg and such bullshit solve the "problem of morality" in this country. There's a reason such "moral" people are look upon as stupid and close-minded.
onion_pixy
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jecclr2003 said:
you know you can skip those green pills altogether? I was skeptical at first, but I just toss them in the trash and start right away on a new months worth of the white ones. None of that annoying bitchyness at all. its great for vacations too! I mean, check wither her doc, but mine said once a year for the greens only.
Then again, maybe you want that week to play Halo 2. I just go to bed and tell the bf to wake me up when he's done playing. Or I'll just play AW2 on my GBA
Thank god I live in a librul area where no one would dare deny me my pills. Id of course have to kill them.
jecclr2003
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Onion_pixy well whats concerning me is the fact that she's now 3 and a haf days into her green pills. It's weird though, I had her take a preganacy test last night and that was a resounding NO.. that line was as dark as it could be. But yet she has the bloating and the soarness in the breast area that come along with it.
I don't know if its even possible since she's on the pill to completely skip the bleeding process and just have the water rentention and general soreness. It's juts odd and it has me all freaked out.
I don't know if its even possible since she's on the pill to completely skip the bleeding process and just have the water rentention and general soreness. It's juts odd and it has me all freaked out.
jecclr2003
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Demon, you were completely missing the point. He decided in hs own mind that anyone who doesn't believe in any religon is "enlightened". I ask how so?
He proceeds to call those who do believe in a religon "dumb" just for the fact that can't prove or disporve a higher powers existence. I take issue with the rationale. While myself am not a religious person there is absolutely nothing wrong wth having faith in an ideology. Like I said previously, religon is best served when used as a road map to live your life by. Not using it to base all you descisions on.
I assure you, I've met some religous people who were real scumbags and aethists that were golden.
But you have to realize believing in a creator or a God doesn't make you "dumb" any more than not beliveing makes you "enlightened". See where I'm going with this?
If you call someone "dumb" for beliving in a religion that just makes you ignorant.
He proceeds to call those who do believe in a religon "dumb" just for the fact that can't prove or disporve a higher powers existence. I take issue with the rationale. While myself am not a religious person there is absolutely nothing wrong wth having faith in an ideology. Like I said previously, religon is best served when used as a road map to live your life by. Not using it to base all you descisions on.
I assure you, I've met some religous people who were real scumbags and aethists that were golden.
But you have to realize believing in a creator or a God doesn't make you "dumb" any more than not beliveing makes you "enlightened". See where I'm going with this?
If you call someone "dumb" for beliving in a religion that just makes you ignorant.
C'mon guys, the obvious solution here is removing females' clitorises when they're born. Then they won't enjoy sex nearly as much, and will only have it when it's a means to an end (i.e, having a child, of which, they need at least a dozen to be alright in the eyes of God). Mr. Druggist won't have to be giving out nearly as much birth control, there won't be nearly as much unneccessary sex, and God will smile on the good ol' U.S. of A. once again. And those fuckin' librul women and men won't be enjoying sex. It's most certainly not a healthy, enjoyable activity. It's not important in a relationship. It should only be there for babies.
What's the religious right going to do when a male pill hits the streets? Holy sweet monkey of god, that should be good.
What's the religious right going to do when a male pill hits the streets? Holy sweet monkey of god, that should be good.
RobotChant
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Zaptruder said:
A couple months ago, my cousin wasn't feeling well; she'd not been feeling well for a couple of days. My sister- who is an RN- decided to go check up on her. She looked real bad so they decided to take her to the hospital. She got out of bed to go wash up and fainted in the hallway. It took three adults to get her up and take her to the car. They went to the hospital and the doctors said she could've died if they had gotten her to the hospital an hour later. She was in the hospital for three days. I can't remember the medical term, but basically it had something to do with her cycle, her hormones, and she had lost a lot of blood. Though she's said her flow didn't seem unusual. She's now taking birth control pills to regulate her cycle.
Indeed. They think we're amoral because we still have the death penalty and don't give full civil rights to homosexuals. Combine that with the constant references to God by politicians and they think we're superstitious barbarians.maharg said:
I was listening to NPR during lunch and even in Ireland politicians are stepping away from making references to religion.
Wow, the pharmacist really should have given the prescription back to the woman. Most birth control pills work by preventing implantation of the egg in the the endometrial wall of the uterus and thus could be viewed as abortion by some people. So I can understand how some of the right wingers out there may have mis-givings about dispensing birth control, however, as some have wisely stated birth control isn't always used for contraceptive purposes. People are blowing this out of proportion though as I'm sure the case of the pharmacist not giving back the RX is an isolated incident.
Pharmacists should be protected under the law to refuse a prescription on moral grounds so long as the provide the patient an alternative route to get it filled. After all, we don't require all OBGYN's to provide abortions, or force physicians to perform procedures they are not comfortable with. Forcing pharmacists to fill prescriptions without question would undermind their professional judgement and put public health at risk. Its too bad this woman just didn't give that prescription back as she should have...
Pharmacists should be protected under the law to refuse a prescription on moral grounds so long as the provide the patient an alternative route to get it filled. After all, we don't require all OBGYN's to provide abortions, or force physicians to perform procedures they are not comfortable with. Forcing pharmacists to fill prescriptions without question would undermind their professional judgement and put public health at risk. Its too bad this woman just didn't give that prescription back as she should have...
Yes, definitely. Also, a girl just walked past my house and I didn't run out and rape her - I JUST DENIED LIFE!teh_pwn said:
I'm not gonna try to argue with religious nutters about abortion being bad, but shouldn't common sense tell these people that refusing to sell it makes no difference (apart from creating more real abortions and putting Christians in a bad light obviously). Anyone who has been refused will just go to another pharmacy. They're getting paid to do their fucking jobs and they're not doing it. Can I get a job at a pharmacy if I'm morally against all drugs and not have to serve anyone?
Oh and I also had a girlfriend who took the pill for period pain, as did two of her friends. It's quite common.
jecclr2003
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Bogdan I kind of figured as such. I know it's not the green pills that make her moody and pissy, but the ones right before it that trigger the hormones for her monthly cycle.
I just know me and the Xbox will be logging alot of time this week. She's especially bad, even with the pills to help. Ah well, beats having kids....
I just know me and the Xbox will be logging alot of time this week. She's especially bad, even with the pills to help. Ah well, beats having kids....
jecclr2003
Banned
Dammit, I missed it! What did that little troll Pimpwerx say to get the ban stick?
jecclr2003
Banned
SFA, unfortunately in this case Pimpwerx displayed a high levelof ignorance.
I don't think it was worth banning him over though, he is entitled to his opinion, however ignorant it may be.
I don't think it was worth banning him over though, he is entitled to his opinion, however ignorant it may be.
I completely disagree with this. Giving a woman birth control has nothing to do with health risks, and can actually prevent health risks, and health should be the only criteria on which the dispensing of medicine/treatment/surgery/etc. is based, because that's all it's intended to be used for.R0GX said:Pharmacists should be protected under the law to refuse a prescription on moral grounds so long as the provide the patient an alternative route to get it filled. After all, we don't require all OBGYN's to provide abortions, or force physicians to perform procedures they are not comfortable with. Forcing pharmacists to fill prescriptions without question would undermind their professional judgement and put public health at risk. Its too bad this woman just didn't give that prescription back as she should have...
Some people in this thread have said, "And the woman might not have even been using the pills for birth control!" IMO, this is the wrong view to take. Regardless of what the woman wanted the pills for, if she had a legitmate prescription to get them filled, the pharmacist should be obligated to do her job and fill the god damned prescription -- not refuse, nor send the woman all over the fucking county to find a worker who isn't going to let their own personal convictions stand in the way of them doing their job.
If I was a staunch vegetarian working as a cook at a restaurant, and I refused to prepare any dish containing meat even though it appeared on the menu, I don't think many people would sympathize with me. This pharamcist is no different -- she is taking her beliefs with her to the job she chose instead of checking them at the door. This is completely unacceptable.
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