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doing pot for the first time tonight...

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Amir0x

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silver said:
And for fuck's sake: STONED is what you are when you've smoked a joint consisting of both weed and tobacco, HIGH is what you are after a joint consisting solely of weed.

I'm sure this has been covered in the thread, but you are wrong.

Being stoned just means you're really fucking high. It doesn't involve anything else.
 

Pimpwerx

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I like that stoners can actually argue about shit like this. We are so fucking cool. :lol

Seriously, stoned/high, it don't matter. This stuff about the tobacco sounds wierd though. AFAIK, tobacco is used to fill out a joint/blunt, and to SLOW the burn. Tobacco burns slower than weed, and the joints my friend used to roll with some of my ciggy tobacco would burn slower than the ones with pure weed. But IMO, it does nothing to increas potency, and IMO, is actually worse for you.

I don't know for a fact, but I just know that smoking joints with tobacco in them give me my stoned feeling, but also that fatigue and shortness of breath that I get from cigarettes. You know, that 24-hour drain ciggies put on you. I only noticed it since I stopped smoking cigs. Whenever I have one now, my body and lungs just feel a bit dead for a day, but then get back to normal after that. I don't have that problem with bud, and I smoke that like twice a day.

So far this year, the bud has been top-notch quality here. But that's b/c my dealer has a grower down here. So whatever seeds he got is giving some awesome quality. And I'm smoking nothing but dro these days, which is awesome. Consistency was a problem in the past, but my current hookup has yet to fail me. I should take some pics of the nugs. I'd have some of you drooling. :) Even then, I want to go to Amsterdam b/c my stoner sis tells me that she got totally ripshit she blazed up over there. She's used to good quality shit too, and said the buds they have there are off the hook. I'm a Bohemian-type anyway, so that could probably be my kind of town.

Anyway, weed's fine, but I would not recommend it for anyone still in school. It's something that should probably wait until college and independance. I mean, it definitely dulls you, no matter what you think. But it's not permanent, you'll be fine in a few days even if you're a regular smoker like me. But I can't imagine getting through high school with all my motivation sapped by weed. Some do welll with it. Others totally fall off. PEACE.
 
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Yup pot totally ruins your ability to do anything learning wise. It's entertainment only. don't do it for weeks around exam times, big job oppurtunites etc. Weed dulls me chronically, but that's part of the fun.

I'm interested to hear about demons interactions with the ladies post-stoned....... when I get stoned around girls, well girls im interested in, I must have some clear eyes with me, I get red eye bad. Weed tends to make me unusually aware of my LIMBS as well so if I start talking and gesturing I get paranoia.....
 

mas9055

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This seemed to be a pretty popular thread, and since those assholes won't let me make my own posts yet, here it is. How do you register for the G-Mail account. I heard you need a referal. If so can anyone send one to mas9055@aol.com. Thanks, and sorry fr the random post.
 
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mas9055 said:
This seemed to be a pretty popular thread, and since those assholes won't let me make my own posts yet, here it is. How do you register for the G-Mail account. I heard you need a referal. If so can anyone send one to mas9055@aol.com. Thanks, and sorry fr the random post.

I'll send you an invite if you promise to smoke some marijuana as penance for taking this thread off topic :p
 

mas9055

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Hey, thanks a lot man. I would do some weed for you, but I blew my whole stash on 420. :) Guess I'll have to go get some more...
 

Blackie

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-jinx- said:
There was nothing more frustrating that trying to put the moves on a hot-but-stoned girl at a party.

Did I ever learn that the hard way.

I was dating this one chick and we got high together on the third date. I tried to put the moves on, as per the signals she had previously shown me, and neither of us was feeling it. I felt odd and uncomfortable, and she just shut me down. Le sigh.
 

darscot

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Weed totally makes you brain dead, when you use it regularly. I myself used to smoke a lot of it. Living in BC we can get sweet outdoor if the season is good. I had a year that we just got overloaded with it. We had fricken pounds of it, I'm no dealer it was just too creepy for me. So you get to the point of what they fuck do we do with all this weed if were not going to sell it? You guessed it smoke it. It was common for me in those days to walk into a room look around and think why the fuck did I come in here? Then one day I decided to go to college so I gave it up. Now I'm sharp as a pin again.
 

Pimpwerx

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darscot said:
Weed totally makes you brain dead, when you use it regularly. I myself used to smoke a lot of it. Living in BC we can get sweet outdoor if the season is good. I had a year that we just got overloaded with it. We had fricken pounds of it, I'm no dealer it was just too creepy for me. So you get to the point of what they fuck do we do with all this weed if were not going to sell it? You guessed it smoke it. It was common for me in those days to walk into a room look around and think why the fuck did I come in here? Then one day I decided to go to college so I gave it up. Now I'm sharp as a pin again.
Yeah, I'm at that nexxus in my life. I can either quit and get back on the productivity tip with the ambition and the bullshit. Or, keep chillin and enjoying life. I think I was happy both ways, but lately I've actually started to be concerned about being dull all the time. I figure I might end up quitting in a year or so. Not completely, but I'll eventually cut it back to a weekend or holiday thing. The few times I've sobered up over the last 5 years (quitting for at least a week), I've really enjoyed being sharp. It's so funny b/c I look at myself at those times and I'm like, "holy shit, I forgot I was this smart." Then I'd get some more bud in and go back to being dull and forgetful.

One thing I notice is that while I know I've been dulled by the bud, I feel like I have deeper thoughts. I can't quite describe it, but I'm sure some of you know what I mean. I feel like I can wax philosophical a lot better. It might just be that weed makes me dwell on certain things and rant about them. Like half my anti-war rants have been while blazed. :lol I don't think it's a coincidence anymore. Whereas I'm less concerned with stuff like that when sober. I tend to focus in on more technical stuff when sober. Maybe b/c I can crunch numbers and do the spacial stuff a lot better when my mind's clear. PEACE.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

Just make sure you know the facts, and don't let yourself get addicted (I really don't think doing any type of chemical is good for you after seeing how it fucks up the people around here, my brother in particular, but he's ok now that he quit. :) The effects on the lungs and the brain just aren't worth it. :/ )

And for the love of god, don't do ecstacy. One dose, and your serotonin level will be below normal for years. Not to mention the very, very dangerous physical risks associated with it.

The long-term consequences of all chemicals severely outweigh the very short term effects, but hey, your choice. :/
 

Burger

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catfish said:
I flat out don't believe the effects of 1 pill on your serotonin levels are as bad as you claim. I have also never seen a person die on a pill. And I have seen shitloads of people do them all the time.

Come on, people have died on E, it's been on the news heaps.

Basically, they drop a pill, dance for 6 hours at a shitty rave, and then fall over because A) They haven't had any water, and B) Alcohol does not count as water and does fuck all to re-hydrate your body.

The fact is, if you don't do some smart research about the illegal drugs you are taking, then your own stupidity can lead to your downfall.

I don't know of any recreational substance that does not have negative side effects. With most class A stuff, if you do not take it in moderation, or at least look after yourself while on the stuff, you can die.
 

Fusebox

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silver said:
And for fuck's sake: STONED is what you are when you've smoked a joint consisting of both weed and tobacco, HIGH is what you are after a joint consisting solely of weed.

Lol! What a crock of shit, seriously dude... :lol
 

Amir0x

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GaimeGuy said:
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

Just make sure you know the facts, and don't let yourself get addicted (I really don't think doing any type of chemical is good for you after seeing how it fucks up the people around here, my brother in particular, but he's ok now that he quit. :) The effects on the lungs and the brain just aren't worth it. :/ )

LOL @ Getting addicted to marijuana. You can get addicted to it in the same way you can get addicted to your computer. It's not physically addicting, and is the easiest thing ever to quit. I quit, felt no regret or pain or withdrawl symptoms and I had smoked thousands of times.

GaimeGuy said:
And for the love of god, don't do ecstacy. One dose, and your serotonin level will be below normal for years.

Bull.

Shit.

GaimeGuy said:
Not to mention the very, very dangerous physical risks associated with it.

Yes, yes. Be careful, their are plenty of risks associated with Ecstasy.

GaimeGuy said:
The long-term consequences of all chemicals severely outweigh the very short term effects, but hey, your choice. :/

Are you trying to fear monger? First of all, the "risks" ones are willing to take have varying degrees of importance or benefits depending on your viewpoint. You're making that judgment for them, saying "your choice" doesn't repaint it. Do you skydive? Do you bungie jump? Ride a roller coaster? Do the benefits outweight the negatives? Well, again, that depends on the drug. For marijuana, the negative is that constant chronic smoking can lead to lung cancer. Is that a negative? Yes. I agree with what people said in this thread, in that marijuana is overrated. But it's certainly not this thing you're trying to make it into, that's for sure. Alcohol is legal, more dangerous than marijuana. Tobacco is legal, way more dangerous than marijuana. Etc...etc... that doesn't make it right, but my point is that it obviously isn't like what you're trying to paint it as. Marijuana is not cocaine. It's not heroin. Millions upon millions of people smoke it and experience no ill effects whatsoever. Nobody has ever died as a direct result of the THC. It's more dangerous to smoke marijuana for legal reasons that it actually is physically :p

Anyway, I hope you're not serious. Because your post sounds like a D.A.R.E. advertisement.
 
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Burger said:
Come on, people have died on E, it's been on the news heaps.

Basically, they drop a pill, dance for 6 hours at a shitty rave, and then fall over because A) They haven't had any water, and B) Alcohol does not count as water and does fuck all to re-hydrate your body.

The fact is, if you don't do some smart research about the illegal drugs you are taking, then your own stupidity can lead to your downfall.

I don't know of any recreational substance that does not have negative side effects. With most class A stuff, if you do not take it in moderation, or at least look after yourself while on the stuff, you can die.

What I am saying is, I have seen something like 3 people in NZ die of E on the news compared to the people numbering in the 1000s who I have personally witnessed and been one of having a great time.... Dehydration is a risk sure, just drink some water. That's what most e people do anyway.

The people that die of alcohol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People dying of an A class drug. well in new zealand, probably every a class drug combined.
 

Amir0x

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catfish said:
What I am saying is, I have seen something like 3 people in NZ die of E on the news compared to the people numbering in the 1000s who I have personally witnessed and been one of having a great time.... Dehydration is a risk sure, just drink some water. That's what most e people do anyway.

The people that die of alcohol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People dying of an A class drug. well in new zealand, probably every a class drug combined.

To be fair, that's because there's WAY more people drinking alcohol than poppin' E ;)
 
So many uninformed people when it comes to drugs its amazing.

Come on, people have died on E, it's been on the news heaps.

Basically, they drop a pill, dance for 6 hours at a shitty rave, and then fall over because A) They haven't had any water, and B) Alcohol does not count as water and does fuck all to re-hydrate your body.

Those are the dumb people who don't know whats up. You go to a rave and your body overheats. That with the addition of no water = absolutely stupid. I've taken E at least 10 times along with tons of friends back in the day, and not a single one of us OD'd. You gotta know the drug your taking and what to do on it.

My drug phase in life is over but I'm at least glad I got to experience it.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Amir0x said:
LOL @ Getting addicted to marijuana. You can get addicted to it in the same way you can get addicted to your computer. It's not physically addicting, and is the easiest thing ever to quit. I quit, felt no regret or pain or withdrawl symptoms and I had smoked thousands of times.



Bull.

Shit.



Yes, yes. Be careful, their are plenty of risks associated with Ecstasy.



Are you trying to fear monger? First of all, the "risks" ones are willing to take have varying degrees of importance or benefits depending on your viewpoint. You're making that judgment for them, saying "your choice" doesn't repaint it. Do you skydive? Do you bungie jump? Ride a roller coaster? Do the benefits outweight the negatives? Well, again, that depends on the drug. For marijuana, the negative is that constant chronic smoking can lead to lung cancer. Is that a negative? Yes. I agree with what people said in this thread, in that marijuana is overrated. But it's certainly not this thing you're trying to make it into, that's for sure. Alcohol is legal, more dangerous than marijuana. Tobacco is legal, way more dangerous than marijuana. Etc...etc... that doesn't make it right, but my point is that it obviously isn't like what you're trying to paint it as. Marijuana is not cocaine. It's not heroin. Millions upon millions of people smoke it and experience no ill effects whatsoever. Nobody has ever died as a direct result of the THC. It's more dangerous to smoke marijuana for legal reasons that it actually is physically :p

Anyway, I hope you're not serious. Because your post sounds like a D.A.R.E. advertisement.
First of all, I didn't say it was physically addicting. I think most people know (or should know) that marijuana isn't physically addicting. That doesn't change the fact that the effects it produces can lead to a psychological dependancy, depending on the individual. Then again, that's true for any drug, legal or not legal.
I mean, yeah, there are definitely positives to marijuana, but, well, I guess what separates the illegal chemicals from the legal ones from my perspective are the very direct and damaging effects on the brain's neurotransmitters and neuron activity.
I don't believe bungie jumping or riding roller coasters medically dirupts the chemical balances in your brain for days, weeks, months, or years at a time, but I could be wrong.

Here's the way I see it: the majority of the people I know who use chemicals like this generally fuck themselves up. They aren't the straight A students or the people who generally get anywhere in life while they're taking these chemicals. Now, I'm not saying that people who do drugs can't be successful, but you can't deny the fact that these chemicals very, very often get in the way of people actually progressing during their lives. And I'm sure I'm biased because of the fact that my brother had problems with marijuana, alcohol, and god knows what else during junior high and high school, and nothing got better for him until he quit. My parents smoke, and my 55-year old cousin, who I really admire for his positive outlook on life and his willingness to always put a smile on my face, basically "fried his brains on drugs" when he was in high school (that's a quote he told me himself). He had been one of the top students in his class, but, well, he fucked himself up with chemicals. Now, he's a bartender. There's nothing wrong with that; he's a happy man, he loves his job, and he loves living more than anyone else I know. But he could have been much more successful if he hadn't taken drugs in high school.

I guess witnessing the negative effects that these things have on people has made me more determined to stay away from them. A few hours of pleasure doesn't justify the potential damage of a lifetime.

Anyways, if you use marijuana responsibly, I'm sure there won't be a problem. :)
 

Burger

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The_Sorrow said:
Those are the dumb people who don't know whats up. You go to a rave and your body overheats. That with the addition of no water = absolutely stupid. I've taken E at least 10 times along with tons of friends back in the day, and not a single one of us OD'd. You gotta know the drug your taking and what to do on it.

Right. Basically what I said.
 

darscot

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What is this magical drug that you can actual fry your brain when your in highschool and how much of it do you have to do. Cause I know I personaly have done my fair share of drugs and on more then one occasion I have said I think I hurt my brain last night. And no matter how hard I tried my brain never got cooked. Granted I never put a needle in my vein or did hard drugs. As we used to name them
Boom: Weed
Zoom: Meth or Upper like substances
Shroom: Mushrooms
Doom: LSD

On the odd evening I did all of them and in mad quantities. Most of the people I have meet that are burnt out where just stupid to begin with. Or were doing thing like Lysol and gasoline.
 
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Does E really make you impotent while you are on it?

I've never had the oppurtunity to test that out, I would believe it though seeings as I don't think I'm capable of feeling anything below my neck while on it.
 
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FiRez said:
Does anyone noticed that the author of this thread has not replied in almost a day? =O

He probably took everyones advice on what drugst to try! :O
 

Bebpo

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The_Sorrow said:
So many uninformed people when it comes to drugs its amazing.



Those are the dumb people who don't know whats up. You go to a rave and your body overheats. That with the addition of no water = absolutely stupid. I've taken E at least 10 times along with tons of friends back in the day, and not a single one of us OD'd. You gotta know the drug your taking and what to do on it.

My drug phase in life is over but I'm at least glad I got to experience it.

That's cool and easy to say but it fucking sucks for the kids who die. At my HS one girl died on prom night because she was taking E while drinking alchohol. I dunno, maybe she was well-informed and knew that she was doing something stupid; but maybe she didn't know jack shit and was just doing what others were and as a result she's fucking DEAD. That's not cool, especially when your young and had your whole life ahead of you.

Being informed is smart and helps you survive ok, but as the majority of drug users are uninformed, stuff like E is DANGEROUS in a scary way.
 
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That girl didn't just die from E, she was drinking booze. booze is a scary killer but nobody cares. Mainly because it's taxable I guess.
 

Amir0x

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GaimeGuy said:
I don't believe bungie jumping or riding roller coasters medically dirupts the chemical balances in your brain for days, weeks, months, or years at a time, but I could be wrong.

No, but a snapped wire or a bad parachute can. That's my point, it's all risks. You driving down the road is a risk. You can say you'd rather not take an unnecessary risk, and that's fine. But you shouldn't go around preaching about how marijuana of all things is a major risk, because it's just fucking not. Ecstasy, yes. I can understand that.

GaimeGuy said:
I guess witnessing the negative effects that these things have on people has made me more determined to stay away from them. A few hours of pleasure doesn't justify the potential damage of a lifetime.

And my point is that unless you saw someone get lung cancer or you saw them get in a car and drive while under the influence when discussing marijuana, you ain't seen nothing but a dumb fuck who was going to fuck his life over anyway. I've graduated from college. Been a grade B-A student most of my life, and I've taken far more serious drugs than fuckin' weed. And I know plenty of others like that as well. Anecdotal evidence is about a arms length away, which is why it's best to rely on science. And scientifically, there is no evidence that it makes you lack motivation (when you're not smoking, of course), or that it burns brain cells, or that it "fries your brain." All that is mythtalkin', and it's bullshit. I don't like bullshit. I'm hopin' you don't like bullshit as well.

I respect people who don't do drugs. To me, they have more willpower than I can ever have, especially knowing what I do; experiencing the pleasures that are more spectacular than your mind can even fathom. And yet these people resist. Maybe they are able to resist because they haven't experienced it, or because they're stronger. Either way, I respect those people. But I don't respect the same people who try to shit on people with big moral stories filled with garbage that is never true except for people who are too damned dull to see the truth: People ruin their lives because they're fucking idiots, and it would have happened with or without marijuana.

That's all I'm sayin'. We can have enlightening talks about all sorts of drugs, and my motto is let the fools put what they want into their body. S'long as they ain't hurting you or I, so long as they ain't blowing their weed smoke in your face or hoppin' in a car while rollin' balls, let them in peace.

But this is America.

Cyan said:
Basically, e can seriously fuck up your brain chemistry. I know that it's hard to take seriously, since the government demonizes every kind of illegal drug, but you really want to watch out for e.

The professor of the class I took on this actually said during one lecture that he thought we should experiment and try things out, but the the one thing he hoped we got out of the class was to avoid e. Given all the brain chemistry crap, I'm inclined to follow his advice.

Yes, but not on your first time. Which is basically the thing we said bullshit to. You ain't going to roll hard and have your seratonin levels fucked for weeks. That takes a lot of rolls, not just a night on the rave scene.

catfish said:
Does E really make you impotent while you are on it?

I've never had the oppurtunity to test that out, I would believe it though seeings as I don't think I'm capable of feeling anything below my neck while on it.

FUCK YES. God, it's the must frusturating thing because every touch is infinitely more pleasurable, and yet you can't bust a nut for your god damned life. And often this impotency lasts for a few days, so it REALLY sucks if you had a great roll.
 

Polari

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catfish said:
What I am saying is, I have seen something like 3 people in NZ die of E on the news compared to the people numbering in the 1000s who I have personally witnessed and been one of having a great time.... Dehydration is a risk sure, just drink some water. That's what most e people do anyway.

The people that die of alcohol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People dying of an A class drug. well in new zealand, probably every a class drug combined.

I'm in NZ too, only one person has ever died from pills in this country. One.

The chances of dying on e are at least one in one million. i.e., fuck all. And they're even less if you take the appropriate precautions. Drink a moderate amount of water and you'll be fine.
 

Polari

Member
Bebpo said:
That's cool and easy to say but it fucking sucks for the kids who die. At my HS one girl died on prom night because she was taking E while drinking alchohol. I dunno, maybe she was well-informed and knew that she was doing something stupid; but maybe she didn't know jack shit and was just doing what others were and as a result she's fucking DEAD. That's not cool, especially when your young and had your whole life ahead of you.

Being informed is smart and helps you survive ok, but as the majority of drug users are uninformed, stuff like E is DANGEROUS in a scary way.

Blame the drug, sure, but also blame the system. I'm guessing what happened was that she used alcohol as a substitute for water, being unaware that alcohol only dehydrates you further. If someone had given her that information (and someone really should have) she'd still be alive today. An excellent example of the system failing - but I bet no-one thought "Hey, maybe we should make sure these kids get the appropriate information, so they can make an informed choice." Instead, I'm guessing it was more "Wah-wah, drugs are bad, they're killing our kids, let's string all drug users and dealers by their balls and hang them out to dry." Which of course, solves absolutely nothing.
 
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also, I always drank a shit load of booze anytime I did a party drug. Not sure how you go about dying from it.....
 

Hitman

Edmonton's milkshake attracts no boys.
HAHA Demon has'nt replied yet... Maybe he got really stoned and got all crazy and took a trip down to Mexico...

haha what a noob.
 

kablooey

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Amir0x said:
FUCK YES. God, it's the must frusturating thing because every touch is infinitely more pleasurable, and yet you can't bust a nut for your god damned life. And often this impotency lasts for a few days, so it REALLY sucks if you had a great roll.

*strikes E off list of drugs to try*
 

Teddman

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Amir0x said:
FUCK YES. God, it's the must frusturating thing because every touch is infinitely more pleasurable, and yet you can't bust a nut for your god damned life. And often this impotency lasts for a few days, so it REALLY sucks if you had a great roll.
Couldn't you just pop a Viagra?
 

Macam

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I was wondering what was keeping this thread going for days considering the subject, only to realize it turned into one of those dreaded druggie talks...and here I was hoping maybe demon smoked pot and did something decidedly GAF-like and fathered a child by accident except, shit, she's 32 and married to an asshole tow truck driver whatdoIdonow or something.

My two cents on pot: It's nothing special and if you're naturally mellow or introverted it's quite uninspiring and disappointing. Although I've since quit whatever little smoking I did in the past, smoking flavored tobacco out of a hookah was much more rewarding and relaxing.
 

D-X

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DirtyHarry said:
I'm in NZ too, only one person has ever died from pills in this country. One.

The chances of dying on e are at least one in one million. i.e., fuck all. And they're even less if you take the appropriate precautions. Drink a moderate amount of water and you'll be fine.

So go for it kids! As long as you aren't magic number 1000,000 you'll be fine!

but if you are you're fucked and no amount of stats will get you out of that
 

rs7k

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DirtyHarry said:
Blame the drug, sure, but also blame the system. I'm guessing what happened was that she used alcohol as a substitute for water, being unaware that alcohol only dehydrates you further.

No one has brought up the fact that it's not uncommon to get a pill that doesn't contain any MDMA. In fact, some dealers will put other chemicals, some of them life-threatening (PMA is an example) sometimes without knowing about their toxicity. Dealers just want to make money, and it's impossible to make sure you actually have MDMA without a testing kit.
 

psycho_snake

I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
The thing that has really surprised me is the amount of people who have taken drugs such as E and marijuana. and I didnt expect so many to have said they have. I only loads of people who have tried weed, nearly everyone I know does it but I only know one or two people who have tried marijuana or something more effective then that.

How many of you that have taken a drug smoke tobacco? I just can't stand tobacco, it makes me feel absolutely nothing and it tatses like shit, but Im very temped to try it with weed with tobacco with what people have said about it. Im guessing its nothing too harmul and is the feeling much better or not?
 

rs7k

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psycho_snake said:
The thing that has really surprised me is the amount of people who have taken drugs such as E and marijuana. and I didnt expect so many to have said they have. I only loads of people who have tried weed, nearly everyone I know does it but I only know one or two people who have tried marijuana or something more effective then that.

How many of you that have taken a drug smoke tobacco? I just can't stand tobacco, it makes me feel absolutely nothing and it tatses like shit, but Im very temped to try it with weed with tobacco with what people have said about it. Im guessing its nothing too harmul and is the feeling much better or not?

Don't bother with tobacco. Next thing you know, someone will pass you a cigarette when you're high, and you'll take it because it won't be such a big deal. That's how I got addicted to nicotine. STAY AWAY.

I quit smoking pot on 4/20, and hopefully that's one major craving trigger gone.
 

aoi tsuki

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rs7k said:
No one has brought up the fact that it's not uncommon to get a pill that doesn't contain any MDMA. In fact, some dealers will put other chemicals, some of them life-threatening (PMA is an example) sometimes without knowing about their toxicity. Dealers just want to make money, and it's impossible to make sure you actually have MDMA without a testing kit.
Out of curiousity, do they have kits that detect the presence of potentially lethal chemicals, like PMA? i remember seeing DanceSafe at a party, but the kits they had at the time only detected whether or not your pills actually contained MDMA. Ironically, i went sober and dropped the scene entirely before PMA started becoming really widespread in my area.
 

aku:jiki

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Amir0x said:
FUCK YES. God, it's the must frusturating thing because every touch is infinitely more pleasurable, and yet you can't bust a nut for your god damned life. And often this impotency lasts for a few days, so it REALLY sucks if you had a great roll.
You are obviously less of a man than I!

(It's possible if you're really adamant about it. By that point, though, you're really sick of fucking/jerking it so I guess it doesn't even matter in the end.)
 

3kuSaS

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As far as being stoned vs. being high-- I always thought, and always will consider those definitions to be-

stoned- a lazy, wasted sort of depressing high. Weed that brings you down, which is usually what you get when you get crappy bud.

high- inspiring, artistic, creative, sometimes hallucinogenic. The reason why weed enthusiasts like myself exist. I think its a shame that most people will never expereince the kinds of things that happen when you have really good pot.

Its sad to see that pot gets such a bad rap...I mean, I dont think its for everyone and if someone decides to be against it, good for them. I just find that most people who are against it know nothing about it or just had a bad experience with some sh*tty quality weed. To the people who say weed is nothing special I can garantee you that you havent had good bud. I especially hate the people who talk bad about pot, but drink every weekend, not realizing that drinking causes more social problems than weed does.
I dont this bs bother me though, because I am a living example that pot can be an acceptable addition to anyones life.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Teddman said:
Couldn't you just pop a Viagra?

You know, I can't say that I had viagra laying around when I was heavy into E. I don't know how effective it would have been. :p

aku:jiki said:
You are obviously less of a man than I!

(It's possible if you're really adamant about it. By that point, though, you're really sick of fucking/jerking it so I guess it doesn't even matter in the end.)

Oh, i mean, I don't want to get too graphic... but I tried to beat it off afterwards. Believe me I tried! By the end of my session I would often by drenched in sweat trying to reach that point. And I was able to once or twice, but the effort required was WAY too extensive to be worth it as you eluded to.
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
I still have never tried pot at all. I should have asked my roommate for some back during my first year of law school, as he and his friends occasionally used it....in the apartment. He was a pretty easy-going guy, so he probably would have given me some if I had just asked.

The worst thing I've done so far is just to try taking some leftover painkillers from my wisdom tooth removal in conjunction with going out to a law school party at a bar. Unfortunately, I had two things working against me. The painkillers were Oxycodone, which are just a dumbed down version of the real things which work a lot quicker, and the bartenders were making really weak whiskey sours that night. They were practically just lemonade. If only I had saved the last couple for the next law school party at which they were making them around 50% whiskey, and so after about 2 or 3 my typical adverse reaction to the alcohol had died down, and I had 5 more in rapid succession. If I had still had the pills, perhaps I wouldn't have thrown up so easily after 8 drinks, and could have stayed for more.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
oh, and amir0x, I never said my cousin did marijuana (Although he probably did).

To be honest, I don't really know which drugs he tried and which he didn't. I just know what he's told me.
 

Jill Sandwich

the turds of Optimus Prime
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HIGH ON LIFE!!
 

Pimpwerx

Member
The ecstasy scare is just that, a scare. It's no coincidence that all this negativity stuck to the drug only after the drug councils turned their crosshairs on it. They did the same thing with coke (OMG, it's gonna destroy your nasal passage) and weed. Millions of people have and still roll. It's been huge in Europe for decades AFAIK. It's been going on over there for longer than here from what I know.

Doing E is like doing any other drug. Make sure you have a reliable source. I've got only one set of dud pills, and that was when I went through a different dealer than my usual connect. If you have a reliable source, you'll get good shit and will be less likely to fuck yourself up. I've done some dumb shit like buying shrooms at Woodstock, and accepting a free back of "shake" that was probably grass clippings. But you live and learn. I learned quickly though, so I don't get burned anymore.

I've only done E a few times, but never had a bad roll (besides the one that did nothing), and I've drank a shitload of beer while rolling. Except for this one time in a club where I couldn't get beer, I've always drank beer with it. You have to really do a number of yourself to dehydrate. I drank lots of beer, but I was also chilling around my apartment listening to music and chilling with my friends. So eventhough I was probably drying up more than usual, it wasn't a big deal. IMO, the worst part of E is the come-down when I start grinding my teeth. Next time I roll, I want to have a pacifier or mouthguard. Something to stop me from chewing up the inside of my mouth. That's the only hangover I've ever had from E, a badly torn-up mouth and sore jaw from grinding. Otherwise, E is easily my favorite drug. If it wasn't so fucking expensive for me to find, I'd do it a lot more.

My sis has rolled over 100 times. So did my best friend's sister. They did lots of shrooms and acid too. I suppose it's easier to find depending on where you go. Both are fine. I honestly don't put much stock in the scare campaigns. I'll trust sites like erowid.org and other fact-based sites that cut through the bullshit and let you know what's what. IMO, if you're curious, you'll try drugs on your own. They're everywhere, and as long as you take the proper precautions (like finding out what they do and the side-effects), then you'll be fine. PEACE.
 
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