Ugh. I gave it a shot. I'm a little lost though. This is a whole hell of a lot of effort to play one game. Is this seriously what is required to play me some Metroid? :'(
Sorry, what are you trying to do? Play a downloaded game?
Dolphin - Emulating Wii and Gamecube Games
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Sorry, what are you trying to do? Play a downloaded game?
Leatherface
Member
Well I own the game. I bought it in the GAF buy/sell/trade thread actually, but yes i did download it because I don't have a way to rip the disc. Can't get Metroid Prime Trilogy to load into one of the games. It crashes when it loads a start screen to any of the three Metroids.
Alright so why are you dumping your NAND?
Leatherface
Member
Because the guy a few posts back pointed me to a wiki page based on an error I gave. Until today I had no idea what a NAND even was. heh.
Sounds like the file you are using is a bad dump. Are you on using a PAL version? Your best bet would be to use your wii and dump it yourself. Also, downloading is severely frowned upon here at GAF even if already own the game.
Leatherface
Member
Didn't think it was a problem if I owned it. Not the PAL version. I guess I'll attempt to rip it then. Can it be done from a WiiU? My Wii has passed on so the WiiU is the device I use to play these now.
Yup that's how I rip all my games. Do you have the homebrew channel installed?
Leatherface
Member
Nope but I have the thread saved for it. I'll start there. This will probably go better. heh. Thanks for helping me out. 
Nope but I have the thread saved for it. I'll start there. This will probably go better. heh. Thanks for helping me out.
Yup anytime, I can attempt to walk you through it but that thread will probably be your best bet.
Leatherface
Member
I should be fine. Much appreciated though. I usually don't have a problem with this stuff but the whole NAND thing got confusing fast. Didn't make sense for what I was doing. Thanks again. My quest to play Metroid Prime Trilogy at 4x the native resolution continues. 
Barrow Roll
Member
Sorry about that, the text on that page that said
lead me to thinking you might need to do that, plus I thought recalled doing it myself when I first setup Dolphin, but I guess I misremembered? In any case, it might just be a bad rip like bomblord1 said, I've never seen that error while booting Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Jelle
Member
What ReShade bloom parameters did you use?Dolphin + ReShade + MasterEffect ReBorn + Hypatia HD Textures
Leatherface
Member
No worries. I'm thinking its a bad rip as well. I'm just going to rip it myself this time as I should have from the beginning. I figured that error wasn't normal. Thanks for help.
What build are you using? ES_Launch was broken due to some commit sometime ago which caused this issue. Try the latest development if you haven't already.
Leatherface
Member
I've been using the custom build posted here that gave FZERO GX a huge performance boost. I'll have to check what version it is and see if there is an updated one. Good call though, I'll check that out.
SerTapTap
Member
What's with all the custom build stuff anyway, doesn't Dolphin itself try to set optimal settings for each game (at least compatibility-wise)? I guess it's optimization way beyond what preferences allow? It seems ideally the release branch should have these optimizations without impeding performance/compatibility of unaffected games
It's more along the lines of hacks that make certain games run better. They tend to screw up other games so they're kept out of the main commits.
Leatherface If you're running a custom build I would suggest stopping and get the main dev build from the site F-Zero has run great (and accurately) for a while now. That may be the reason for the problems you are seeing.
Most games generally have the most compatible and/or accurate settings enabled. These are determined and set by the Dolphin testers and users.
Yes, the Ishiiruka build still has the D3D9 backend which was removed a long time ago from the master branch for several reasons. The big 'improvements' it has (referring to async compilation) are also hacky, inaccurate or don't have a good/acceptable design preventing it from getting into the master branch.
This. Or atleast keep up with the latest updates from Ishiiruka.
Custom builds are usually done for new features and implementations that are tested that way before they go into the main code. A good recent example was the work on zfreeze that was done using custom builds.
The Ishiiruka builds are better referred to as forks as it bases on code that was removed from Dolphin quite some time ago, meaning that there is quite some significant difference in the code, so compatibility and behavior should no longer be expected to be similar (in fact the D3D9 backend was removed because it didn't allow some needed hardware concepts to be cleanly implemented except through hacks).
The Ishiiruka builds are better referred to as forks as it bases on code that was removed from Dolphin quite some time ago, meaning that there is quite some significant difference in the code, so compatibility and behavior should no longer be expected to be similar (in fact the D3D9 backend was removed because it didn't allow some needed hardware concepts to be cleanly implemented except through hacks).
CrunchyFrog
Member
Aaahhhh, so nice to finally play Rogue Leader in the HD resolution it so clearly deserves. Will be nice when proper zfreeze finally makes its way into the main branch. As much controversy as there was with the recent custom hack build, at least it finally got people to come forward and really break down the issue. I'm just surprised they got it playable so quickly. Still missing a few effects though and a lot of slowdowns, but it works.
Leatherface
Member
Thanks guys, you've been a big help and I appreciate all the comments. When I originally jumped in this thread after being away from Dolphin for well over a year, one of the first posts I saw was linking to the Ishiiruka custom build due to it's Fzero fixes. It seemed like that was the new hotness so I jumped in. That being said I think it has already updated since I installed like a week+ ago. I'll give a dev build a try as well to see how things work there. I'm kind of curious as all the games I have work flawlessly with the exception of Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Does anyone know of a comprehensive list of wii games that are dual layer? I've run into some ripping problems because of this and it would really help if I knew in advance instead of ripping a bad copy and having figure out if the error is a bad rip or something else and then going back and redoing it as dual layer to see.
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Metroid Other M
Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love
Samurai Warriors 3
Raving Rabbids Collection
Xenoblade Chronicles
The Last Story
Samurai Warriors 3 Z
Alright thanks. Are you sure that's all of them?
Surprisingly, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 worked for me yesterday, so I did a good run and cleared a couple of levels.
I had a 'FIFO' crash that resolved by just clicking 'yes' then the game continued without crashing again, I had the same thing in Metroid Prime Trilogy and I think it's related to Dolphin being set up to read disc faster than a standard Gamecube disc drive, right?
I'm searching for the option to make it the same and I can't find it... Only had weird shadows here and there but the game was totally playable, 60fps and all, which is a big step up from last time I played.
I had a 'FIFO' crash that resolved by just clicking 'yes' then the game continued without crashing again, I had the same thing in Metroid Prime Trilogy and I think it's related to Dolphin being set up to read disc faster than a standard Gamecube disc drive, right?
I'm searching for the option to make it the same and I can't find it... Only had weird shadows here and there but the game was totally playable, 60fps and all, which is a big step up from last time I played.
Dolphin actually has an entire thing set up to properly emulate the way disks are read down to the fact the inner section of the disc is read faster than the outer. Fifo errors are caused by the GPU/CPU emulation coming out of sync.
Thanks for the link! I already read all of this not so long ago but totally forgot they slapped it in one of their latest monthly reports.
IcyRhythms
Member
Can anyone give a small list of must play games that work without any issue? 1080p 60FPS of course
https://dolphin-emu.org/compat/
The games rated five stars should be playable with basically zero issues.
My source (Gamefaqs) says it is. I would link to another list of Wii game sizes but the websites are probably not allowed here.
Stallion Free
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Stallion Free
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This post + a nice high internal res. Shots are from the games opening cutscene before I start getting the black bar issue.
Leatherface
Member
Looks like it was the custom build causing all my problems. Thanks for the tips everyone and pointing me in the right direction.
thesuperfunk
Member
So far I've played through REmake [which obviously wasn't as pretty as I'd hoped due to the pre-rendered backgrounds] and am just about to start MGS: Twin Snakes for the first time ... are there any racers worth picking up other than Mario Kart?
F-Zero GX.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Man, this is gonna be more complicated and costly than I thought...
To rip my Wii games I need to use CleanRip.
To use CleanRip I need the Homebrew Channel.
To get the Homebrew Channel I need to use an exploit like LetterBomb.
To use LetterBomb I need a SD card.
To plug in a SD card to my PC I need a USB adapter.
To play my Wii games on PC I need a 360 controller or DolphinBar, or both.
Damn.
To rip my Wii games I need to use CleanRip.
To use CleanRip I need the Homebrew Channel.
To get the Homebrew Channel I need to use an exploit like LetterBomb.
To use LetterBomb I need a SD card.
To plug in a SD card to my PC I need a USB adapter.
To play my Wii games on PC I need a 360 controller or DolphinBar, or both.
Damn.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Wait, you don't already have a SD card for your Wii? Or do you mean you need a larger capacity one to handle the rips?
If you have a camera that uses sd cards, just use that to plug into your computer. Or even a phone's SD card.
Letterbomb is literally 2 clicks from the Wii menu.
If you're going to use your wiimote, you can just use the IR sensor from the Wii that's plugged into your Wii. It only receives power from the Wii and that's it.
Burnout 1 & Burnout 2.
If you can only get one, get Burnout 2. Otherwise, get both and start with Burnout 1.
I used the brawl exploit a lot more tidy IMO and works on the latest wii OS version.
But yea the SD card thing is a bit of a pain I have a PC with a card reader so it wasn't nearly as tough for me. Also a wiimote + bluetooth works fine (and is honestly the best way) to play wii games no need for dolphin bar unless you don't have bluetooth.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Letterbomb also works on the latest Wii OS version, and it's really not all that complicated.
Really? when I was doing it I read it doesn't work with the latest version. They must have updated since then.
Bigbillybeef
Neo Member
It should open on the "main display". Check to make sure the monitor you want it to use is set as the main display in windows.
joeygreco1985
Member
if Nintendo released an HD collection that looked like this id buy it in a second
Barrow Roll
Member
Use the Ishiiruka Custom Build of Dolphin and enable Full Async Shader to get rid of the black bar issue.
Although it currently has some issues with not being able to scan certain things with the scan visor.
No it opens on my secondary I figured it out though I started and then moved the screen over manually and opened it up in full screen again it's opening on the right one now
Does this custom build work with Dolphinbar?