Conkersbadfurday
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I don't ever get one, though I had the flu way earlier in the year so I guess it's tempting now. I don't want to have to go through that again ._.
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Dont Let These Myths Scare You Away From a Flu Shot
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EYEL1NER
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I guess I did the match wrong in my head, because it is about 7 months actually. But she is going in multiple times a month now, is getting more ultrasounds done than I thought they actually did, and has a bunch of blood sugar monitoring going on (because I guess she has gestational diabetes?). To my knowledge they haven't mentioned anything about flu vaccines to her, but I'll ask them next time we go in.
Then it looks like I pretty much caught the flu around the same time I got the shot. Just the odds not playing out in my favor it seems.
I love how threads that deal with people trying chiropractic or acupuncture that the ones in favor of it get absolutely shit on and mocked because it's pseudo medicine, but a flu shot that typically has a 50% guess rate is heralded as a must get or that person is going to be the cause of humanities extinction.
There's been plenty of placebo trials that have a 50% success rate, which if Chiro or acupuncture have zero other medicinal benefits, would at least have nearly the effectiveness of a flu shot which is pure guesswork every year.
There's been plenty of placebo trials that have a 50% success rate, which if Chiro or acupuncture have zero other medicinal benefits, would at least have nearly the effectiveness of a flu shot which is pure guesswork every year.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Because chiro and acupuncture are totally pseduo science. The efficacy of the flu shot isn't the same as placebo. The flu virus mutates at an incredible rate.
The Flu Vaccine is Effective video.
No, the CDC did not just apologize and admit that this year’s flu vaccine doesn’t work
No, the CDC did not just apologize and admit that this year’s flu vaccine doesn’t work, part 2
This is for last year's but still applies.
The flu shot effectiveness doesn't decrease due to rapid mutation, it is solely dependent on what they believe the dominant strain will be for the next year. It's pure guesswork.
Which is what my point was that you totally missed. If pseudo science can be statistically as effective as a flu shot, then it's somewhat hypocritical to mock pseudo science and swear by random chance.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Because the methodology is different. read the links above. Reduced rates is not a measure of placebo. it's risk reduction.
It's not hypocritical.
Trojita
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Damn, this post is really dumb.
Lol what? Fully vaccinated and believe in early vaccination for infants and children and maintenance vaccinations as an adult. But I have probably gotten one flu shot in the past 15 years. Have gotten through high school, university, public transit daily, and now a large office environment without getting the flu. So why would I run out and get the flu shot? Here, it is only free for at risk, elderly, children and seniors as well. My immune system is pretty great. Let's not compare flu vaccinations and tie it into things like avoiding vaccinations for hepatitis b and measles/mumps/rubella etc.
prag16
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Complete bullshit. You apparently have a very limited understanding of how the immune system works. There are numerous ways to help out your immune system which have nothing to do with shots. How can you possibly be unaware of this. Or are you just totally in the shill "only pharmaceuticals can save us, ever" camp?
Sure it can. It can do lots of stuff, such as fight off the fucking virus. If your immune system "can't do anything against" something you haven't been vaccinated for, everyone would be dying of everything in all cases. It's not complete luck of the draw. People can have strong or weak immune systems.
Vomiting and running a fever for 3 days is hardly a "mild reaction".
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
The hell are you ranting about? The best way to have a good immune system is to be healthy as possible and taking the flu shot, plus hygiene. Supplements are bullshit and unregulated,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunization
Then it probably was the flu.
Which I conviently got after getting my shot. Both times. Thanks, but no thanks.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Confirmation bias, but it's also not 100% effective. Maybe try to schedule it differently.
I'm not going to get one. Problem solved.
Dylan Sexbang
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I had the flu last year and I thought I was actually dying. I think I should get a shot this year
EstoyBlackWaldo
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Y'all people still believe in dem myths, huh? I do like the disclaimer of you not being anti-vaxxer but when it comes to the flu shot, "I'll take my chances".
Maybe time to read the article?
Not sure why I was quoted, but gotcha.
Yes, god forbid you have to experience a little discomfort. Is your brief pain worth the life of another person?
Big Pharma? Lol... By your logic, since I work in medicine, my paycheck must be written by pharmaceutical companies, right?
NNevermind the fact that vaccines are on the bottom of the list for profitible drugs, among a million other reasons that this idea is outrageous and not grounded in reality at all.
As opposed to vomitting and running a fever for 2-3 weeks?
"Look at me! I'm a self-centered Luddite who thinks he knows better than than years of exhaustive scientific research from doctors of all stripes across the planet!"
Get a grip.
That's never happened to me.
Look at me! I'm a delusional control freak that can't stand when people do things differently from what I do!
Calm down.
I get my shots, just not my flu shots. It's not a big deal.
This. And all you're doing is helping make the virus more resistant. Unless you're an infant or elderly (or work in the medical industry), you really shouldn't bother with getting a Flu Shot.
This is absolutely incorrect. In no way does that statement hold water from a scientific standpoint.
The flu virus has no direct contact with the vaccine - there is no way for it to obtain beneficial mutations that help it become resistant to vaccines. The vaccine is an inactivated virus that forces your body to produce antibodies that are then employing in staving off the infection later.
Bacteria and viruses are two totally different things - it would be wise not to conflate the two. Please do not spout bad science, especially bad science that can have serious adverse effects for others, if you are not certain about what you are preaching. This is exactly how we have ended up in our current situation with other vaccines, where herd immunity has started to receed, and we're seeing outbreaks of infections that should have been eradicated years ago.
You seem to be confusing vaccines and viruses with antibiotics and bacteria.
hammysaurusrex
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Just say you aren't getting it because you're lazy and don't care. The rationalizations used to try and demonstrate how much smarter you are compared to the peasants are just obnoxious and contorted. Stop.
Truly... What's worse, is that people seem actively opposed to any suggestion that they should be educated about the subject.
I do not envy our virologists... it's infuriating for me, I can't imagine how they must feel. I would be white hot every day. :lol
mhayes86
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It's a shame a lot of people avoid the flu shot since it's such an easy and cheap vaccination to receive. Some people believe the myths while others are lazy.
I got my flu shot a couple weeks ago free of charge. The place was not busy, so I was in and out in two minutes. It was mind boggling to see several people walk by the vaccination team and give an excuse to them in order to avoid the shot. The team eventually got so bored of no one stopping by that they walked around the nearby waiting room asking patients, and everyone had an excuse or said "not today". I mean, it was incredibly convenient! They were not busy, and it was FREE.
I got my flu shot a couple weeks ago free of charge. The place was not busy, so I was in and out in two minutes. It was mind boggling to see several people walk by the vaccination team and give an excuse to them in order to avoid the shot. The team eventually got so bored of no one stopping by that they walked around the nearby waiting room asking patients, and everyone had an excuse or said "not today". I mean, it was incredibly convenient! They were not busy, and it was FREE.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
My insurance pays for it 100%.
Also, I believe it takes 2 weeks to go into full effect (which is logical as your body builds antibodies for it). So, either get it early or don't bother if it's getting into January.
Prodigal Son
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EDIT: Neeevermind
Probably another flu like illness got you like the common cold, pneumonia, stomach flu etc.
Hickbilly Deluxe
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I've never gotten the shot, for whatever reason. I just don't care really. And if I do get sick, I just spend a night in bed with double covers and a space heater cooking me and by morning I feel like myself again (even if I smell like complete ass)
Burglekutt
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Years ago i got sick from the flu shot, then I got better for a couple days, then I got sick with the flu. I haven't had one in a long time until this year. This year my company paid me to take it. Im a sucker for free money.
Necromanti
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Brilliant advice.
What suggestion? You flat out insult people. Who would want to listen to that?
You know the suggestion I'll listen to? The one from my doctor that said I don't need to get a flu shot, and won't need one for some time.
Trojita
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Who is your doctor? Dr. Jill Stein?
Oh, I'm sorry random internet person, should I be taking your advice over that of my doctor?
1990-2012 I didn't get a shot and I didn't get sick. Got a shot in '13 and got sick. No shot in '14. Got a shot in '15 and got sick again. Doc said I didn't need to concern myself about getting flu shots unless I wanted to get them. I'm up to date on all my vaccinations and immunizations except the flu shot.
Etrian Oddity
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I have an allergy to the flu vaccine. I got it like the second time as a kid and the whole injection area swelled up and broke out in hives, it was some terrifying shit.
I don't know if it's because I had a legitimate allergic reaction to it or if the nurse was a quack who didn't follow proper sanitation procedure, but I'm not going to chance that shit again.
I don't know if it's because I had a legitimate allergic reaction to it or if the nurse was a quack who didn't follow proper sanitation procedure, but I'm not going to chance that shit again.
I'm not sure if you're humoring me, but that's just how I feel sometimes if you're not a very sickly person. I've never really had the flu. The worse I'd get was just a head/chest cold which I'd sleep off and eat lots of chicken vegetable soup.
...And no I'm no anti-vaxxer or whatever the hell that phrase is for being against the shot. If you wanna get it, get it. If you don't then don't.
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