He's still technically a Christian which is good enough for America. Now, if he were a Muslim, that would obviously be different.Heavy said:I just can't believe Mitt Romney is the leading candidate for the GOP right now. The guy is a Mormon. I have no disrespect for Mormons but come on? Do we really want someone with those beliefs running such a diverse, polytheistic country?
Also, the guy looks like a sleezeball with that slicked back hair. Looks like Mel Kiper Jr. from ESPN... http://www.google.com/images?q=mel+...&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1728&bih=802
If he ever ends up winning the vote, every anti-republican commercial during the election will mention how he bangs 59 women daily and sacrifices virgins for his magic pants.TL4E said:He's still technically a Christian which is good enough for America. Now, if he were a Muslim, that would obviously be different.
As long as most Americans don't learn about the polygamy and magical underwear (they won't), Romney should be okay.
My point was that someone who practices a religion with views that are at odds with 99% of the country probably shouldn't be leading it. It would set the U.S. back a decade, while the rest of the world continues its progression.Bulbo Urethral Baggins said:What a bigoted view.
The leader of the Senate is a Mormon btw. Should he resign effective immediately?
Bulbo Urethral Baggins said:What a bigoted view.
The leader of the Senate is a Mormon btw. Should he resign effective immediately?
Is Massachusetts still lagging behind the rest of the States due to this Romney character being it's governor?Heavy said:My point was that someone who practices a religion with views that are at odds with 99% of the country probably shouldn't be leading it. It would set the U.S. back a decade, while the rest of the world continues its progression.
What he saidOuterWorldVoice said:There are many layers involved here:
1. Mormonism is both by definition and content, a strange, fringe religion in the context of an ostensibly Judeo-Christian society.
2. Mormon attitudes to homosexuality and women are troubling and basically incompatible with the 21st century.
3. His mormonism is downplayed strategically and sold to the media and the public as Christianity. So even if you're a Mormon, his brand of mormonism is troubling.
As an atheist, my simple feeling is that the newer a religion is, the closer it is to charlatanism.
A Governor can't decide on sweeping federal policies and regulations. Who knows what Romney would do if he had that power...Bulbo Urethral Baggins said:Is Massachusetts still lagging behind the rest of the States due to this Romney character being it's governor?
OuterWorldVoice said:There are many layers involved here:
1. Mormonism is both by definition and content, a strange, fringe religion in the context of an ostensibly Judeo-Christian society.
2. Mormon attitudes to homosexuality and women are troubling and basically incompatible with the 21st century.
3. His mormonism is downplayed strategically and sold to the media and the public as Christianity. So even if you're a Mormon, his brand of mormonism is troubling.
As an atheist, my simple feeling is that the newer a religion is, the closer it is to charlatanism. The best I can hope for is an Abrahamic president who doesn't go on about it all the time.
Didn't he inherit a lot of his money? It's not like he's a self-made man.siddx said:Donald Trump is the luckiest rich guy ever. He comes across as dumber than a post.
VGChampion said:If he somehow someway became president I really think I would move.
Plenty of morons are born rich.lightless_shado said:You don't become a multimillionaire by being a moron. He's got too much money and he's bored.
Gary Whitta said:Plenty of morons are born rich.
If elected VP, Canseco can use his twin brother as a double to confound assassination attempts. Should make a nice change from sending him to personal appearances at sports memorabilia conventions!xbhaskarx said:Fuck the haters.
Trump - Jose Canseco 2012.
Summary Man said:I'm watching the video the article linked to. A basic summary:
Trump: Obama's grandmother says he was born in Kenya. If anyone would know about his birth, it's her!
(Upon being told that the grandmother was misinterpreted and clarified Obama being born in the US
Trump: Why should I believe anything his grandmother says?
unomas said:Hopefully Rand Paul or Ron Paul run, we need real candidates and not this left right bullshit.
unomas said:Hopefully Rand Paul or Ron Paul run, we need real candidates
unomas said:Rand Paul or Ron Paul run, real candidates
unomas said:we need real candidates
Salvor.Hardin said:The liberal reply to the Republican apprehension of Obama's "true belief" was that even if he were a Muslim, it shouldn't matter. Are you of the opinion that Islam's views are any more compatible with a 21st century America than are Mormonisms'?
unomas said:At least he will ask real questions and not pose as the typical politician who pretends to do something but does nothing to actually change things in a meaningful way. Hopefully Rand Paul or Ron Paul run, we need real candidates and not this left right bullshit.
I cannot speak for OuterWorldVoice, but "it shouldn't matter" in the sense that Obama's views seem to be a product of reason and careful observation and not dogma, so it shouldn't matter what his religion is as long as he's reasonable. Those who seek to discount someone solely because of religion are, ironically enough, usually other religious people who adhere to the "I'm Christian, you're Muslim" thing. That is why Mormonism may not work with the broad slice of the American public. For me, I don't care if someone chooses to espouse a personal religion, as long as the driving force behind their political views is reason. Of course, I think that "personal religion" is an oxymoron because it completely negates the tenets of religion that say its beliefs must be followed at the cost of everything else; so I would say that Christianity, when properly followed, isn't very amenable to 21st century America. Most religions are in the same boat in that sense. However, when it comes down to a choice between a dogmatic religious person who says crazy things and a religious person who is reasonable but perhaps ignoring vast portions of that religion, I would choose the latter as the lesser of two evils. For example, I would choose a very liberal Muslim or Mormon, rather than a very dogmatic Christian, or vice versa.Salvor.Hardin said:The liberal reply to the Republican apprehension of Obama's "true belief" was that even if he were a Muslim, it shouldn't matter. Are you of the opinion that Islam's views are any more compatible with a 21st century America than are Mormonisms'?
unomas said:At least he will ask real questions and not pose as the typical politician who pretends to do something but does nothing to actually change things in a meaningful way. Hopefully Rand Paul or Ron Paul run, we need real candidates and not this left right bullshit.
lightless_shado said:You don't become a multimillionaire by being a moron. He's got too much money and he's bored.
Cubsfan23 said:didnt he go bankrupt and then get rich again?
siddx said:Donald Trump is the luckiest rich guy ever. He comes across as dumber than a post.
He is a perfect example of the "American dream" and would make a fine president. The market has spoken!Gary Whitta said:Didn't he inherit a lot of his money? It's not like he's a self-made man.
Ickman3400 said:several times, through careful manipulation of our bankruptcy laws like most rich business people who get in that situation.
But don't worry, he knows how to fix our economic woes!
SpeedingUptoStop said:He's getting to be the Sheen of candidates. Can we drop this illusion that he's even a plausible candidate and forget this ever happened already?
Heavy said:I just can't believe Mitt Romney is the leading candidate for the GOP right now. The guy is a Mormon. I have no disrespect for Mormons but come on? Do we really want someone with those beliefs running such a diverse, polytheistic country?
Also, the guy looks like a sleezeball with that slicked back hair. Looks like Mel Kiper Jr. from ESPN... http://www.google.com/images?q=mel+...&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1728&bih=802
Heavy said:A Governor can't decide on sweeping federal policies and regulations. Who knows what Romney would do if he had that power...
Gotta say. I don't know much about Mormons but that list is hilarious. Though I bet you could make some strange ass lists about Muslims Christians Jews Hindus and buddhists.OuterWorldVoice said:Does that mean he's winning?
If I were Romney I would be stoked, because these assclowns will split the primary and eliminate his Mormon handicap. I think the RNC would LOVE it if he just wasn't a Mormon. If he gets the nomination, the media is going to be full of information about Mormonism, including these gems:
1. Drinking hot beverages is sinful.
2. Jesus came to America, like Eddie Murphy.
3. God has a physical body, made of flesh and bone.
4. Black people couldn't enter the priesthood until.... 1978 because according to them, having black skin is a curse from god.
5. There are multiple universes with multiple gods.
6. Dinosaur bones are extraterrestrial.
7. Mars and Venus have dry riverbeds and are the source of our nice wet ones.
1999? lolgiga said:
Shit is glorious.Slayer-33 said:1999? lol
Worst mental image ever!Chinese Electric Batman said:
OuterWorldVoice said:4. Black people couldn't enter the priesthood until.... 1978 because according to them, having black skin is a curse from god.
Gary Whitta said:I just hope he didn't see what happened to Linda McMahon, Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman as object lessons in what happens when rich CEOs try to buy political office as I don't want him to be discouraged. Trump running for political office, even if it's just in the GOP primary, is going to be television GOLD.
Yo Gotti said:Funny, this is a common Christian belief also, look up the Curse of Ham.
Today it's not talked about much, seeing as it's been mostly omitted from most modern bibles or written very cleverly to slip by unnoticed, but it's still built into the foundation of the religion and was one of the things that "justified" the American slave trade.
Chinese Electric Batman said:
Heavy said:I just can't believe Mitt Romney is the leading candidate for the GOP right now. The guy is a Mormon. I have no disrespect for Mormons but come on? Do we really want someone with those beliefs running such a diverse, polytheistic country?
Also, the guy looks like a sleezeball with that slicked back hair. Looks like Mel Kiper Jr. from ESPN... http://www.google.com/images?q=mel+...&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1728&bih=802