Donald Trump is a Goddamned Moron.

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Heavy said:
My point was that someone who practices a religion with views that are at odds with 99% of the country probably shouldn't be leading it. It would set the U.S. back a decade, while the rest of the world continues its progression.
You're in good company. A significant percentage of the American population state that they would not vote for any president that is not protestant Christian. Catholics have become generally more accepted, but atheists, Muslims and Mormons are still far behind.

That said, despite that a lot of people agree with you, refusing to vote for anyone besides a protestant Christian does not strike me as 'progress'.
 
Trump will run until he has to reveal his finances. He pretends to be richer than he is, so he won't want that public knowledge. Also, candidates who are too rich can get some flack, like McCain having trouble remembering just how many houses he owned.
 
one thing you gotta remember about trump is that he's a big attention whore. He's doing all of this as one cheap ad campaign for his 'brand', and nothing else.

Best to ignore him.
 
adamsappel said:
Trump will run until he has to reveal his finances. He pretends to be richer than he is, so he won't want that public knowledge. Also, candidates who are too rich can get some flack, like McCain having trouble remembering just how many houses he owned.
Roughly. Although a dark, deep part of me sees Trump hawking the birther angle partially as a means to distract from when Trump will eventually try to obfuscate his exact worth.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
If Donald Tump in the unlikely event gets the GOP nomination, he's going to get absolutely roasted.

Yeah, but...this is America. I expect him to be quite successful as a candidate.
 
Sickboy007 said:
Is Huntsmann running? funny that the two most mainstream candidate hopefuls of the republicans are both mormons.
Supposedly building his team in DC, but obviously hasn't made anything official yet.
 
Sickboy007 said:
Is Huntsmann running? funny that the two most mainstream candidate hopefuls of the republicans are both mormons.

Huntsman has 0 chance of ever winning a Republican primary. Which is sad because he's the type of candidate the party needs to get off the crazy train.
 
Trump has done and lived far crazier things.

I thought he had the deficit reduction plan, so don't worry he never had a chance at winning anyway.
 
Huntsman's problem isn't that he's Mormon or an Obama appointee. His problem is that he's moderate in a sea of extremist Republican candidates. Hell, he actually agrees with civil unions, something that can be hard to find with Democrats in some areas of the country.
 
Trump can say what other conservatives would like to say but wouldn't because they might actually have a chance at being elected. Trump = Iago. Doesn't matter if what he says is true. He's planted that idea in the heads of easily led dumbasses.
 
titiklabingapat said:
one thing you gotta remember about trump is that he's a big attention whore. He's doing all of this as one cheap ad campaign for his 'brand', and nothing else.

Best to ignore him.
The GOP primary race has become such a joke. Half the candidates are not serious, they are just media whores out selling books and boosting their speaker fees. Two of the candidates are literally reality TV stars (Trump & Palin). Newt is an old discredited has-been but he wants in on those books & speaker fees.

It is kind of funny how the presidential primary one of the political parties has become such a racket. I understand niche non serious candidates with far-out agendas Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton, Alan Keyes, etc. They are out there pushing their message. But they are not there just marketing themselves for profit.
 
Synth_floyd said:
He's not a moron. He knows what he's doing.

Incorrect. I have watched this fellow make mistake after mistake for a couple of decades now. He does not "know what he's doing" in any strategic fashion. He's a blowhard and an egotist whose attempts to self-aggrandize often fail spectacularly. See his attempt to sue for defamation when it was correctly noted he was a millionaire, not a billionaire.

His sense of self-worth is attached only to his money and possessions. See how he describes his daughter.

He has no plan. And he continues to spectacularly misinterpret real estate trends.
 
He smags this

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He produced this

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There is no way he can run. He would have to sign the financial disclosure docs and that would expose his fraud and lies.
 
crazy monkey said:
He smags this

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Sure. But science can't even measure the magnitude of Douche-Chill being given off in that picture. And he continues to stripmine Eastern Europe for dizzy models who no doubt love him for his persona.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Incorrect. I have watched this fellow make mistake after mistake for a couple of decades now. He does not "know what he's doing" in any strategic fashion. He's a blowhard and an egotist whose attempts to self-aggrandize often fail spectacularly. See his attempt to sue for defamation when it was correctly noted he was a millionaire, not a billionaire.

His sense of self-worth is attached only to his money and possessions. See how he describes his daughter.

He has no plan. And he continues to spectacularly misinterpret real estate trends.

Well, I think he knows what he is doing in that he realizes that he is no real estate whiz anymore but he is still able to capitalize on things using his name and likeness. So his name goes on projects, he goes on a reality TV show, and he is using this fake presidential run as promotion.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
There are many layers involved here:

1. Mormonism is both by definition and content, a strange, fringe religion in the context of an ostensibly Judeo-Christian society.
2. Mormon attitudes to homosexuality and women are troubling and basically incompatible with the 21st century.
3. His mormonism is downplayed strategically and sold to the media and the public as Christianity. So even if you're a Mormon, his brand of mormonism is troubling.

As an atheist, my simple feeling is that the newer a religion is, the closer it is to charlatanism. The best I can hope for is an Abrahamic president who doesn't go on about it all the time.
Sounds like America wants a Hindu president! Definitely older than Christianity =)
 
Trump sounds like a male version of Palin with his relationship with news paper criticism

he will crash n burn during the primaries... or lose badly to Obama if he makes the nomination
 
speculawyer said:
Well, I think he knows what he is doing in that he realizes that he is no real estate whiz anymore but he is still able to capitalize on things using his name and likeness. So his name goes on projects, he goes on a reality TV show, and he is using this fake presidential run as promotion.

Yeah he's just a troll at this point and apparently people don't know the rule of "don't feed the troll."
 
Jesus, he's not running. He's merely capitalizing off the renewed interest in his brand. I'm sure he's having someone write a book for him right now, to be released during the primaries
 
speculawyer said:
It is kind of funny how the presidential primary one of the political parties has become such a racket. I understand niche non serious candidates with far-out agendas Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton, Alan Keyes, etc. They are out there pushing their message. But they are not there just marketing themselves for profit.

I honestly think it's a product of gross inequality. There is virtually no limit to what it doesn't distort. It is quite frightening that one of the two major parties is being used exclusively as a self-promotion platform. But it kind of tracks how corporations are used as vessels of personal enrichment by their senior executives. Selfishness, anti-social (in the literal sense of having no concern for community or society at large), and avaricious culture is fostered and encouraged by high-inequality societies.
 
Gary Whitta said:
He's really been going off the deep end lately with all this birther stuff. Apparently according to a recent WSJ poll he's the GOP's #2 favored candidate after Romney. Yes, that's how desperate they are.

I heard him interviewed on Hannity the other day and he was really talking seriously like he's going to run. I think his ego is going to make it happen. I really hope he does, it's going to be a hilarious spectacle.
He says all the birther crap not b/c he believes it but because he has to pander to the Republican base if he even wants to have a hope of the nomination.
 
Trump will not win the primary, and he doesn't want to be President. He DOES want to be in the news a lot and raise his TV ratings by acting as crazy as the idiots on his "reality" show.

If he was a legitimate candidate he'd talk about something other than a fringe conspiracy theory once in a while.
 
parrotbeak said:

That black woman was insufferable; seems like MSNBC never runs out of "generic angry black chicks" to add to any irrelevant race panel. I hate being on the same side of a racial argument as Buchanan but he's right. "The blacks" is obviously an odd phrase, and has been used to single out black people negatively or dismissively - but it's ridiculous to automatically assume it's a condescending comment here.
 
PhoenixDark said:
That black woman was insufferable; seems like MSNBC never runs out of "generic angry black chicks" to add to any irrelevant race panel. I hate being on the same side of a racial argument as Buchanan but he's right. "The blacks" is obviously an odd phrase, and has been used to single out black people negatively or dismissively - but it's ridiculous to automatically assume it's a condescending comment here.
Does it make me a bigot if I really like Pat Buchanan?
 
PhoenixDark said:
That black woman was insufferable; seems like MSNBC never runs out of "generic angry black chicks" to add to any irrelevant race panel. I hate being on the same side of a racial argument as Buchanan but he's right. "The blacks" is obviously an odd phrase, and has been used to single out black people negatively or dismissively - but it's ridiculous to automatically assume it's a condescending comment here.
Ya, she didn't make any argument other than not liking his wording. Also dumb to bring up Idiocracy as if that just settles it.

Trump is a troll and idiots react. Kinda funny though.
 
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