Comes across as slightly patronising. The only way to get this mess sorted is to engage properly with these people and try to ease their fears/solve their problems.
Donald Trump is corrupt.af
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Comes across as slightly patronising. The only way to get this mess sorted is to engage properly with these people and try to ease their fears/solve their problems.
It's a bit more of a pressing issue for that trait to be tied to the President of the United States though no?
When I see actual corruption I'll believe it. Having stakes in business or involving corporate interests in governance is not corruption.
I'm a good policy supporter and I hate identity politics. This place is heavy on the latter and pretty scarce on the former, probably why I tend to come up opposing the Democrats.
Trumps trade policies would annihilate the poor.
Are you going to attempt to refute anything, or just continue blessing us with your faux-intellectualism?
Trump is factually corrupt, and there is mountains of evidence in these links and elsewhere to confirm it. There is no equivalent factual evidence against Hillary, as claiming something is not the same as truth. Similarly, what post-truth Trump supporters tarred Hillary with is about optics, not a pursuit of truth.
This corrosive both sides shit remains the most tellingly vapid exercise this whole cycle. Try harder to come up with relevant analysis so you dont bore us to tears with more mental farts.
Pantaghana
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When you open up the site, the first thing you see is a picture of Trump with the caption: "Donald Trump is corrupt a(s) f(uck)."
FlutterPuffs
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What country?
Such fire.
PsihoPerihelion
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At least he didn't wash on acid all those emails or got that Benjamin guy killed on Bamboozle #lockherup #maga #killary
shadowsdarknes
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That's a relevant piece of information.
Should we not discuss this so we could have avoided you coming in here to say, "so?"
Joel Was Right
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None of this matters. The election proved that.
RustyNails
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And here's the cop-out for Trumpers. Its moar Clinton liez.
Ulysses 31
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He's worthy of being watched like a hawk sure but assumming he's already done more damage than certain politicians currently in office is a bit silly.
They don't want solutions, they want fantasies. Trying to engage them on this plane of reality is pointless, they have to feel the effects themselves before they have any chance of being reached.
ClosingADoor
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#AllCorruptionMatters
Seriously, he is the next President. You surely understand why his corruption is a bit more in the spotlight then others.
RustyNails
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Have you met or seen these people?
Given the way he has conducted himself in his business dealings it is almost certain he has done more damage than certain politicians.
This site would be apropos even if he wasn't president. He is corrupt as fuck.
BocoDragon
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Somebody should do that, but not me. I'm here to tell them they are useful idiots.
Fact check or die.
FlutterPuffs
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That's what you americans should do as individuals.
However, there also needs to be people pointing out the obvious.
Ulysses 31
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I agree with the "more" but he's getting all the spotlight in this case. At the very least the site could also follow his "basket of deplorables". =)
Are they even useful? There is some debate as to that ...
ClosingADoor
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It would take away from the point of the website: showing the corruption of Donald Trump.
All this "but others do it too" is just distracting from the actual discussion at hand, which is Trumps corruption.
Carpe Carnim
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For someone who bothers to follow, and then comment on politics, you'd think trying to float some 'Whataboutism' would be embarrassing. But the Trump Defense Force is evergreen in their deceit. Sad!
Meet the next POTUS and his penchant for destroying emails while under court order not to.
We see ya, bruh.
The Last Wizard
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I prefer the term "live ones", we've got a bunch of live ones in this country.
The site doesn't even mention that so okay? This is a fruitless discussion to have. I thought oppression Olympics was bad but now we have the corruption winter games.
Ulysses 31
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While this certainly reflects bad on Trump, if you're fine with Hilary doing it without legal consequence, Trump should get a pass too. (IMO both should suffer legal consequences.)
What say you, bro.
The problem there however is one of ego.
If their images of self-worth and reality are warped to dangerous degrees, how can you get through them? This is no different than trying to put religion in the coffin it belongs in: by confronting people, paradoxically, people will double down. They will let their dangerous views, ideas, and values become a fist to strike the world with.
How do you convince people this was a con if you can toss facts but their feelings are that God chose him to lead us, for example? This is the type of batshit nonsense I have to deal with on a daily basis. Rural America is home to this virus of thought.
Carpe Carnim
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Let me know when Trump is the target of 30 years of concerted witch-hunts and outright lies by a major American political party. Until then, your attempts to run interference for the fascist talking yam are a distraction, son.
RustyNails
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Half true. Personal Emails on her server were routinely deleted after they handed over all work related emails. As per the norm, personal emails were deleted. They receive subpoena to retain personal emails. The person managing her ser at Platte Networks deletes them as per their original contract to delete emails older than 60 days. He gets into trouble and pleads the fifth. He said it was a lapse of judgment. Trump's timeline is correct. They received subpoena, IT guy still deletes emails. However (politifact)
FBI's Comey himself said this confusion was not deliberate. They were able to retrieve some work related emails from the deleted ones. There is no grand conspiracy unless you believe Platte Networks was also in Hillary's pockets but by then there's no point in arguing further.
Now compare that to litany of accusations against the self-professed Sexual Predator we have for President Elect. There is no equivalency. Believing this email nonsense was equivalent to the volumes of scandals from Trump is what got us into this mess.
RustyNails
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Sure. Comey said there was no deliberate attempt to destroy evidence after a grand witch hunt. There was no case. When can we expect FBI to examine Trump's emails? Trump's ties to Russia? Deals? Its only fair, no.
In forty years when people look back at the Trump presidency as one of the darkest and most morally inexcusable chapters in American History, people who tried to muddy the waters or run interference for this racist fascist are going to be looked at just as reprehensively as the American Firsters.
One has to choose their sides, because the world is watching. History will judge men for who they are now and what principles they stood for in the face of such obvious horror. You can either be the people condemningly mocked in future documentaries for your obscene acquiescence to this evil, or you can put your foot down and fight for actual justice against this monster.
One has to choose their sides, because the world is watching. History will judge men for who they are now and what principles they stood for in the face of such obvious horror. You can either be the people condemningly mocked in future documentaries for your obscene acquiescence to this evil, or you can put your foot down and fight for actual justice against this monster.
Who cares who it was made by if it is factual? The only reason you're posting this is to dismiss it. Please..
Ulysses 31
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I'm willing to give Hilary the benefit of the doubt on this, I'm no supporter of either, I found Benrie most to my liking and I live in the EU.
Is there no government body overseeing the president's actions in the US? The current and future president should be watched for acts of sedition of course.
Every aspect of government is now controlled by Trumps party, soon including the highest court in the land. Down to the state level. Republicans spent more money investigating the indisputably false Benghazi scandal than we did Watergate, and these noxious hypocrites already said they would consider any investigation into Russian hacks of our election to be partisan. That is a glimpse at the evil leading a nation they so clearly despise now.
Who do you propose oversee Trumps endless parade of corruption?
Who do you propose oversee Trumps endless parade of corruption?
Carpe Carnim
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Shorter: "I have no idea what i'm talking about but I felt compelled to blovitate about it anyways. Please ignore me on the subject of American politics in the future."
Angelus Errare
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Why exactly do we need to have a site dedicated to the corruption of his voters? You're not making any sense.
Ulysses 31
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Ulysses 31
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Looks like you pointed out another flaw in political system.
Well, no. The Gilded Age Presidents were pretty fucking corrupt, and Trump's cabinet looks to be a return to those ignoble days.
Nice. They should do the same with the Clintons.
Carnby
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Using fake news to their benefit. Nice!
I'm dead because its true. The news is fake and the corruption is real only when it benefits Democrats.
I'm dead because its true. The news is fake and the corruption is real only when it benefits Democrats.
RustyNails
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How many can you list?
aspiegamer
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You're free to go start one! If you restrict yourself to real media outlets you're going to get bored.
Are any of the Clintons the current President-Elect of the United States?
No they shouldnt because
A.) She wasnt very corrupt - especially not relative to Trump - so the site would get boring fast
B.) She isnt the fucking president so her "corruption" is not going to insipidly spread to all levels of government at a rate unseen in our lives.
P.S. Can you guys PLEASE try harder? It is embarrassing already.
Ulysses 31
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No, people like RustyNails can come along and shed imporant light on imporant details. If I hadn't say anything, he wouldn't have pointed this out and I still would've been less informed.
ClosingADoor
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Sure, we should make one for every person that lost the Presidential election... /s
I see the battle against Clinton is continuing even after she has left the political stage. Amazing.
Carpe Carnim
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Just a reminder kids: Donald Trump is corrupt AF
But seriously, children. You should try harder for your lulz
It is less against Clinton than that Trump's deplorables have learned how to help him gaslight. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
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