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[necrosis]

Already happens, but might conflict with some state laws like marijuana legislation.

A lot of it is purposely vague wording that could mean anything or doesn't mean anything

this is interesting to me as a washingtonian

it reads as though the feds might attempt to tighten down on states that have legalized the sale & use of marijuana

 

[mike6467]

He is going to ban body cam video and making filming police a crime isn't he? Man, if there is a time to constantly record cops its now. Scary times.

More likely they'll just look to expand laws that some states are putting into place and block the release of the footage.

That lets them release the footage when it benefits them, keeps the illusion of transparency, and covers everything they don't want out there.

 

[Surfinn]

More likely they'll just look to expand laws that some states are putting into place and block the release of the footage.

That lets them release the footage when it benefits them, keeps the illusion of transparency, and covers everything they don't want out there.

Isn't that what already happens?

 

[sangreal]

this is interesting to me as a washingtonian

it reads as though the feds are going to attempt to tighten down on states that have legalized the sale & use of marijuana

I'm not sure I am seeing that in these EOs but it is coming regardless

As a U.S. Attorney in Alabama in the 1980s, Sessions said he thought the KKK "were OK until I found out they smoked pot.” In April, he said, “Good people don't smoke marijuana,” and that it was a "very real danger" that is “not the kind of thing that ought to be legalized.” Sessions, who turns 70 on Christmas Eve, has called marijuana reform a "tragic mistake" and criticized FBI Director James Comey and Attorneys General Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch for not vigorously enforcing a the federal prohibition that President Obama has called “untenable over the long term.” In a floor speech earlier this year, Senator Sessions said: "You can’t have the President of the United States of America talking about marijuana like it is no different than taking a drink… It is different….It is already causing a disturbance in the states that have made it legal.”

 

[dh4niel]

Spoiler

SOON

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

He is going to ban body cam video and making filming police a crime isn't he? Man, if there is a time to constantly record cops its now. Scary times.

Yup, he'll probably get away with it if he claims its a fourth amendment thing. Quoting the constitution gives GOP legislators massive boners.

 

[The Last Wizard]

i think the ACLU is going to need another 20 million or so in donations.

They won't get a cent if this pertains to black people.

 

[Jeels]

Vague as fuck and will lead to confusion just like the Muslim ban. I fear this time people will get hurt/die though as everyone figures out just what any of it means in practice.

IMO, already the worst president in my lifetime.

They won't get a cent if this pertains to black people.

Huh? Black people, white people, and other minorities don't donate to the ACLU if it pertains to black people...?

 

[Ri'Orius]

“We need to end this lawlessness that threatens the public safety and pulls down the wages of working Americans,” he said.

This is how you stay on message. Just tie anything and everything back to one point, logic or facts be dammed.

"We're doing X, Y and Z because something something middle class MAGA Knibb High football rules!"

 

[Ekai]

Vague as fuck and will lead to confusion just like the Muslim ban. I fear this time people will get hurt/die though as everyone figures out just what any of it means in practice.

IMO, already the worst president in my lifetime.

The worst president of all time. The worst leader of any modern nation. The worst leader of any civilization of all time. The worst period.

This is how you stay on message. Just tie anything and everything back to one point, logic or facts be dammed.

"We're doing X, Y and Z because something something middle class MAGA Knibb High football rules!"

Well, Knibb High football does rule....maybe they have a point?

 

[LiquidSword]

These orders will definitely embolden the "bad dudes" in law enforcement but reading them it doesn't seem like they actually do anything. Seems like it's just lip service to say "I support police." and further the lie that there is a war on police, #BlueLivesMatter, etc.

 

[Ithil]

Is there a single subject they don't try to tie to "JOBS!!!"?

"We're ordering dumping of toxic waste into Yellowstone, which will encourage AMERICAN JOBS in some form".

 

[Lord Frieza]

They won't get a cent if this pertains to black people.

Are you telling me that massive surge of donations after the Muslim ban happened, and the record level donations they've been getting since Trump took office isn't real?

 

[Cipherr]

Problem is, there are police out there that already think that you're guilty if you're black/brown.

It's a waste to say that though, since you already knew that.

He knows that. Thats his way of saying 'fuck you' to the minorities that get fucked over and killed by overreaching asshole cops. He can't come right out and say because he would be banned, but trust... there it is.

 

[Nintenleo]

Attacks on the press, lies, statements against minorities, nationalism and more power to the police.

This isn't even "alternative right", let's call the thing for what it is. This is pure fascism. American friends, stay safe. Trump could even remove your right to vote and his supporters would be happy about it.

 

[gcubed]

well... if they keep telling everyone crime is the highest its been in 40 years... then start telling the truth in a few months, can you imagine how successful Trump and co have been?

 

[jmdajr]

I just read Presidential Executive Order on Preventing Violence Against Federal, State, Tribal, and Local Law Enforcement Officers twice and have absolutely no idea what it changes. "Develop strategies".. OK? What's the purpose of this EO?

Seems like incredibly fluffy bullshit that doesn't change anything and was designed for people to pat Trump on the back.

If you kill a police officer it's already a capital offense. What else can you add to it? Bring back public execution?

 

[Extra Sauce]

Yes. It's been dropping since the '90s, almost certainly due to de-leading gasoline and not giving future generations brain damage because of it.

(This is the reason why kids born in the '90s+ don't have context for the early '90s crime bill.)

Just read up on this... holy shit. Can't believe I'm only hearing of this now. Seems almost certain indeed. Makes you wonder what other substances might be imperceptibly tearing away at society.

 

[Ogodei]

So make Louisiana's "resisting arrest is a hate crime" thing into federal law?

 

[kwogfaf]

I am already very afraid of police, and I feel anxious just from reading this.

 

[Tovarisc]

So make Louisiana's "resisting arrest is a hate crime" thing into federal law?

Wait... what? That is actual law or are you joking?

 

[Cyan]

So all of these seem to boil down to "let's form a committee and figure out what to do guys!" Am I missing something more sinister?

 

[Extra Sauce]

Spoiler

SOON

Netflix has been begged to produce a Dredd series but soon they can save a lot of money by just reviving Cops instead.

 

[Dead End Irony]

Looks like I'm staying my black ass inside and playing Yakuza, Gravity Rush, and Nier (next month). I haven't felt this depressed about life since middle school.

 

[kame-sennin]

Black people need to arm up.

Yeah, that train's never late. Knew it was coming to our stop eventually.

I'm worried for Jewish people.

 

[foodtaster]

Are you telling me that massive surge of donations after the Muslim ban happened, and the record level donations they've been getting since Trump took office isn't real?

What he's saying is that the muslim ban affects white entrepreneurs and so they're going to make a fuss about this. However white people tend to not live in areas where there's much crime (this isn't actually true, but many believe it to be) and therefore won't care about this.

 

[Wilsongt]

In Trump's world: Lock up all blacks and Mexicans, reduced crime to zero, infinite utopia!

 

[theignoramus]

These EOs are so fucking vague. The real message is loud and clear: "We're going to fuck with you. We're going to take every possible opportunity to put a boot on your neck. And if you say a word, we'll trump up even bigger charges against you so that your life is effectively ruined. Drive safe."

Fuck these goons.



If you're joking, I apologize for taking this seriously.

If you're not, this is embarrassingly tone-deaf and uninformed. Less than a month ago, the Justice Department released findings of continued constitutional violations by the Chicago Police Department. They are not alone in this. Similar findings are available for the Baltimore PD, as well as the Ferguson PD. The bullshit harassment enforced by the LAPD is legendary. This is not an isolated incident. The police are corrupt. Period. There is no intellectually honest argument to be had.

Again, if you're joking, I apologize, but I find (sincere) statements like that really frustrating.

He knows this already. They know it already. They just. dont. care.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

In Trump's world: Lock up all blacks and Mexicans, reduced crime to zero, infinite utopia!

Pretty much tbh

 

[ezekial45]

So all of these seem to boil down to "let's form a committee and figure out what to do guys!" Am I missing something more sinister?

This is more about what they plan to do next, especially given that this is their outlook. Yes, these are vague EO's, but there should be concern about how they plan on proceeding from here.

 

[Spiral Insanity]

But we already have a lawful immigration system?

 

[kswiston]

I thought Republicans were for small government...

Republicans are never for small government. Small government is just something that's bandied about to distract the middle class as they pillage the country and set legislature for their own benefit.

At least the current state of the Republican party seems to be operating that way. If it comes to helping out the business interests of friends and campaign contributors, the pocket book is open. Ditto for enforcing ideology. Social services? You are on your own.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

He is going to ban body cam video and making filming police a crime isn't he? Man, if there is a time to constantly record cops its now. Scary times.

That was my take on it. The "attacks" against police aren't physical, they are people sharing videos of the polices' behavior on facebook.

 

[Kthulhu]

These EOs seem to be worded so vaguely.

"I dunno, come up with some shit, arrest a few more black people, and report back to me in a year."

That's not vague. That's his intention.

 

[Ithil]

I thought Republicans were for small government...

That's just a marketing term they trot out whenever a democrat enacts something they don't like. They are for authoritarian dictatorships where they make loads of money forever

 

[harSon]

Leave your hoodies in the closet black folk

 

[Shadybiz]

So all of these seem to boil down to "let's form a committee and figure out what to do guys!" Am I missing something more sinister?

No that's about right. I'm sure the requests will be something along the lines of "We need more rocket launchers and attack choppers and tanks and shit." The response will be "Okay you make a good case, just be sure to only use them in neighborhoods that are populated mainly by minorities, okay??"

 

[Ryuuga]

Leave your hoodies in the closet black folk

 

[fluffydelusions]

 

[entremet]

Is this a record or something. EOs signed within after being sworn in?

Dude is power hungry maniac.

 

[Metalingus5150]

I've seen some friends and friends of friends say that if people don't want to die, they shouldn't resist arrest. They think resisting arrest is a death sentence.

 

[Pedrito]

No mention of his line about breaking the back of the criminal cartels that have spread across our nation and are "destroying the blood of our youth”?

 

[sangreal]

Is this a record or something. EOs signed within after being sworn in?

Dude is power hungry maniac.

Obama had issued more orders (and memos) at this point

the content is the issue

Obama's were about expanding rights and transparency

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama

Trumps are about tearing down protections

 

[Cyframe]

What he's saying is that the muslim ban affects white entrepreneurs and so they're going to make a fuss about this. However white people tend to not live in areas where there's much crime (this isn't actually true, but many believe it to be) and therefore won't care about this.

This. And I'm not going to compare apple's to oranges, but the response to this EO, unfortunately, will be rather muted.

Most responders to this will say "Great. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time" grossly missing the point of everything.

There's a reason why private prison stocks rose when Trump came into office.

 

[gatti-man]

I thought Republicans were for small government...

Wasn't that nice before the tea party took over? They were an excellent foil to democrat spending and helped balance our gov. Now republicans are nothing but a name.

 

[CrispyBoar]

America has become a complete joke. Someone outside of here please offer me a solution.

 

[Voyr]

well... if they keep telling everyone crime is the highest its been in 40 years... then start telling the truth in a few months, can you imagine how successful Trump and co have been?

Precisely.

 

[Surfinn]

So all of these seem to boil down to "let's form a committee and figure out what to do guys!" Am I missing something more sinister?

The only thing I can think of is for this type of shit to be purposefully vague so Trump does something unconstitutional and can say HEY remember those incredibly vague orders? There you go! We're good.

 

[Breads]

Otherwise known as the hispanic prison slave labor enrichment programme.

 

[Haruko]

Why did you have to go and ruin Captain EO for me? D:

Spoiler

this is amazing