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Don't wear a Romney shirt!
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Well now this here is one of these situations of who do I believe in isn't it.
Alligatorjandro
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Ok just the job,not the firstborn.
ohhthegore
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teenage girl being dramatic and blowing something out of proportion??
I AM SHOCKED!
Trent Strong
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Not all Republican are tea partiers.
No, but the parents are.
Bornstellar
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She was just asking to be bullied wearing clothes like that.
haha, oh you.
nVidiot_Whore
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Oh and now the parents are upset at Facebook harassment and harassment this kid has received at school over this.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20121005_Students_hurl_obscenities_at_parents_in_t-shirt_case.html
The original story broke because the Father called into a conservative talk radio station, and then of course agreed to multiple interviews, the main one being the local Fox affiliate.
Turn your daughter into a viral political issue and then complain that she is harassed?
Keep your kids out of your politics dude.
I do feel bad for the girl.. but this seems like an obvious over-zealous political parent attempting to make an issue out of an incident that should have been handled very differently. And now they have some retired ex-school official and ex-Marine making "courage under fire" references towards the girl?
Good lawd.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20121005_Students_hurl_obscenities_at_parents_in_t-shirt_case.html
The original story broke because the Father called into a conservative talk radio station, and then of course agreed to multiple interviews, the main one being the local Fox affiliate.
Turn your daughter into a viral political issue and then complain that she is harassed?
Keep your kids out of your politics dude.
I do feel bad for the girl.. but this seems like an obvious over-zealous political parent attempting to make an issue out of an incident that should have been handled very differently. And now they have some retired ex-school official and ex-Marine making "courage under fire" references towards the girl?
Good lawd.
Freezie KO
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Teacher should be fired and not allowed to work in public schools again.
Yep, seems like she just got caught up in this shit. Dad calls talk show, says something about a remark a teacher made and it spirals outta control.
Deified Data
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Teacher deserves to lose her job. "Joking" my ass. There are ways to joke about stupid shit like this without making someone feel lesser for supporting on candidate or the other.
Moral Panic
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If what she says happened, happened, then I'm glad it's been made a big deal out of. Bullying should never be swept under the rug.
If the other students corroborate her story the teacher should be fired of course, but the above post does not play in favor of her telling the truth.
If the other students corroborate her story the teacher should be fired of course, but the above post does not play in favor of her telling the truth.
I loved that story. I think I was the first to go "Hey.. uhh the B is backwards.. like she was looking a mirror"
TShirts with political messages are usually banned at schools for this reason.
So let's say it did happen like that.
Why would the parents go to a conservative talk radio show to complain about it first and not the school administration?
captmcblack
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If this is true, the teacher is a douchenozzle and should be fired.
If this is false, her parents might be douchenozzles, and she might be one too.
If this is false, her parents might be douchenozzles, and she might be one too.
Ela Hadrun
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I'm surprised there's a high school where kids are allowed to wear political T-shirts. Most places I've been a student or a teacher disallowed political clothing along with profanity and explicitly sexual clothing. Because of shit like this.
Teachers can be dumbasses and they can contribute to bullying, but my guess is that the girl's story is now strongly influenced by the filter of the hysteria her parents have constructed around her.
I'm sure the teacher was over the line, but I'm also sure it shouldn't cost the teacher employment. If the teacher has had a history of this kind of boundary-crossing or bullshit "jokes," then maybe.
But it sounds like the parents got their kid pumped about wearing a Romney shirt to school, she either didn't understand how other kids would react and/or the teacher hurt her feelings, and then the parents thrived on and pumped up the circus.
Seriously, if every teacher who was a dick to a kid (especially high school teachers) we'd have to fire half the work force. Didn't you guys have teachers who called kids stupid? How much worse is it for a teacher to say "you can't do this" than to say "racists support Romney"? Teachers don't get fired for being socially antagonistic jackasses.
Teachers can be dumbasses and they can contribute to bullying, but my guess is that the girl's story is now strongly influenced by the filter of the hysteria her parents have constructed around her.
I'm sure the teacher was over the line, but I'm also sure it shouldn't cost the teacher employment. If the teacher has had a history of this kind of boundary-crossing or bullshit "jokes," then maybe.
But it sounds like the parents got their kid pumped about wearing a Romney shirt to school, she either didn't understand how other kids would react and/or the teacher hurt her feelings, and then the parents thrived on and pumped up the circus.
Seriously, if every teacher who was a dick to a kid (especially high school teachers) we'd have to fire half the work force. Didn't you guys have teachers who called kids stupid? How much worse is it for a teacher to say "you can't do this" than to say "racists support Romney"? Teachers don't get fired for being socially antagonistic jackasses.
from my experiences with the philasd it could very well be that they're all douchenozzles.
Not "usually," no.
So I was just rereading the thread...
What the hell does this mean? Even people who support Obama are generally against pro-Obama BULLYING. Did you think we would be like "well, she deserved it for wearing that shirt?" That's just offensive.
For that haircut, maybe, but not for the shirt.
What the hell does this mean? Even people who support Obama are generally against pro-Obama BULLYING. Did you think we would be like "well, she deserved it for wearing that shirt?" That's just offensive.
For that haircut, maybe, but not for the shirt.
If the other students corroborate her story the teacher should be fired of course, but the above post does not play in favor of her telling the truth.
Haha, first thing I thought of before I even clicked on the thread.
Ela Hadrun
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In the US, yes. Same way shirts with the F-word or tits on them. Classroom disruption. Been through the courts over and over again.
EDIT: IT WAS DRESS DOWN DAY. I see.
Also edit: I am really irritated by the "Republicans are wondering if this would happen with OBAMA" idea. Right, I'm sure no teenager in the entire US was ever given shit by a teacher or by peers for supporting Obama.
not really buying the scepticsm, it'd be really stupid to completely falsify a story where there should be a couple dozen witnesses who can instantly verify whether it's true and if not lead to an even greater political effect impact in the opposite direction. i mean obviously it's being pushed hard for a reason but i think a single teacher making obnoxious jokes and being awful is way more believable in the current divided us political scene.
Freezie KO
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Are you reading this thread? People have tried to discredit her, called her names, attempted discredit her parents and question their motives, etc.
So while there hasn't been an outright blaming of the victim (yet), I don't honestly believe any of this would've played out the same way if the teacher was Republican and the t-shirt was pro-Obama.
nVidiot_Whore
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Right.
It's being investigated by the school. That's enough for me. Calling the news only harmed this girl.. no question in my mind.. and that's the parent's fault.
Beyond that evidence suggests quite a bit of dishonesty surrounding the story before we even get to knowing if anyone corroborated it... so I'll choose to be quite skeptical because I think it's the only rational way to react to a story like this.
And you are right. There would be much less, if any, questioning of the victim.
Deified Data
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Say it did. End of story. Just because they're milking it doesn't mean it didn't happen. If even a fraction of the girl's story is true, disciplinary action should be required. Assuming it's true. It's always best to get the full story before making judgements in such cases, right? Like in the event of a rape or murder. Especially if the victim is one of the "Bad Guys".
Fuck, you people are smart. You don't need me to highlight the colossal double-standard on display here. Is it so hard to muster the slightest bit of sympathy for someone you disagree with? Or was it her fault? She was asking for it, right?
You must not post on GAF very often. I'm pretty confident people would try to discredit her regardless of her political party, because that's what happens in pretty much every single thread in which a woman complains about harassment. Possibly every single thread in which anybody complains about anything ever, but backing that up would require a lot of Googling.
nVidiot_Whore
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Are the things being said untrue?
Is it illogical to assume a girl who wears a Romney-Ryan t-shirt to high school and has parents who fly 2 tea party flags in their front yard was lying when she claimed she didn't know if her parents were Republicans?
Come on now.. this is called being rational, not victim blaming or mere "attempts" to discredit. The evidence discredits them IMO, I don't have to go out of my way to do it.
If the story was reveresed, and the parents had a bunch of Obama posters and signs up around the house and the kid tried to act like they didn't even know if their parents were Democrats...
Yeah.. I'm SURE the right wingers around here wouldn't jump all over that. They'd be like "Well maybe the kid was telling the truth and hadn't noticed how outwardly political her parents were!"
Schools have to have set policys the cover all political speech, and then that is questionable because students are allowed to express their political ideas verbally. Limiting the legitimate expression of beliefs is legally harder then not allowing swear words or nudity.
even if this wasn't political at all, there'd be people on both sides of this. i exaggerated so much shit when I was a kid, i would never trust 16 year old me to be a truth-teller when it came to anything school related.
Skepticism is warranted based on what nVidiot posted, regardless of political affiliations. And I'm not sure what your point is in saying "It's always best to get the full story before making judgements in such cases, right?" sarcastically; we have an entire justice system that operates on that principle, and for good reason.
nVidiot_Whore
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I believe they did complain to the school first.
They had a meeting with the teacher this past Monday..
The teacher apologized, and said she was joking but was sorry it offended them. Some stories have different versions, but apparently the teacher at the very least is no longer teaching this child's class.. some other stories report the teacher was suspended as well.
The Father then called a political talk show on Wednesday which resulted in this becoming "news" yesterday and today.
TheExecutive
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Probably blown out of proportion but to cover her own ass she shouldn't have said anything at all. Quite stupid.
The Faceless Master
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i'm pro-Obama and the person that did that shouldn't be a teacher, assuming that her story is accurate.
remember the backwards B? election time brings out all the crazy stories!
Freezie KO
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I don't know if what you said is true. You offered no link to back up that statement, and it's not in either of the links posted thus far in this thread.
And now you're back to straw-manning invisible GAF right wing posters.
Anyway, goes to show that being a Democrat doesn't magically give you empathy.
They said they spoke to officials prior, but they didn't file a complain until today. Isn't that a little odd?
As you said he called in wednesday.
Alligatorjandro
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Why would the teacher do something like this?
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