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[Property of Jumpship]

Got some extra time on my hands (summer rocks when you only take one class) and I was wondering if DOOM 3 is worth buying. I loved DOOM and DOOM 2, played them to death on the PC but dont know how good the third one is. Give me your impressions!

 

[Kabuki Waq]

No

 

[bitwise]

oh yes, definately. a must have for xbox if you havent played the PC version.

 

[Wario64]

no

 

[Troidal]

The closet monsters trick gets old, but if you play in short bursts regularly, its pretty fun. It succeeds in capturing the atmosphere, it reminded me more of Aliens sans the demons and monsters. And it certainly is one of the best looking Xbox games out there.

 

[akascream]

Yes. For some reason I got bored with the PC version, maybe it was just the built up hype (and lower expectations when I played on Xbox), but I actually played through the whole game on the comfort of my couch with a controller (I didn't get far on PC). Best graphics on Xbox, and the controls were well implemented. It's still the same mindless shooter, but if you like mindless shooters, its a pretty one. =)

Co-op didn't seem that great to me though. Don't get me wrong, it is a lot of fun, but with all the talk of re-worked AI, I was expecting more. Also, I did several levels with this one guy and we ended up at the last boss with no soul cube wtf. We couldn't find one anywhere and just gave up heh.

Anyway, I thought it was worth a purchase. Also, some guy I played co-op with said if you get the collectors edition, you get the older dooms on there too. He mentioned doom2 and ultimate doom, but I'm not sure what is actually in there...you might check it out.

 

[Gattsu25]

It's a decent single player game...it's not revolutionary and the AI and monster positioning is pretty basic, but the game has near unparalled atmosphere. If ya can run it, get the PC version...otherwise the XB version is worth a purchase...especially when you consider the Co-op (over Live!) and the Classic Dooms you get (collectors edition)

edit: akascream, you get Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 along with Doom 3. 4 player split-screen in the old games and all

 

[Striek]

Well, DOOM III is an alright game, but I thought its gameplay was too slow, it felt a bit too clunky. The load times (at least IMO) are pretty bad, and the areas kinda small.
However the game is gorgeous and there are a few genuinely awesome parts.
I'd say its worth picking up at a budget price.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Got some extra time on my hands (summer rocks when you only take one class) and I was wondering if DOOM 3 is worth buying. I loved DOOM and DOOM 2, played them to death on the PC but dont know how good the third one is. Give me your impressions!

It's a fantastic port, but it's a port of a game that wasn't that good to begin with. Doom 3 is nothing like the originals other than theme. It's more like the single player in quake 1 and 2. Definitely the weakest out of all the big first person shooters released last year.

 

[C- Warrior]

I got bored of it and stopped about halfway through.

First off, the sound effects suck harder than a prostitute on telegraph avenue.

If you're going to have me shoot my weapon at similar looking enemies for 10 fuckin hours, at least make it sound cool.

Next, Killer fuckin 7 has more gameplay variety in it's shooting/FPS mechanics.

And that game is more about story than anything.

That is to say in Killer 7, I'm aiming at different body parts, using different weapons for different monsters, shooting rats in a hole, shooting at key regions.

With Doom 3 it's like, shoot--die. Do it again for another 9 hours.

And the whole metallic dark "I can't see where the fuck I'm going" look gets old after the 3rd hour.

Game sucked.

Do yourself a favor and replay Halo 2's campaign or something.

 

[FiRez]

Yes, if you have LIVE the Coop mode is very good

 

[akascream]

Next, Killer 7...

Heh, I made it about that far.

 

[C- Warrior]

Yes, if you have LIVE the Coop mode is very good

Oh, I'd like to make it clear that my experiences with Doom III were offline and offline only.

I can imagine LIVE would make it better, but then again human interaction/social factor really makes any game better.

 

[C- Warrior]

Heh, I made it about that far.

That was good, you're reading skills are really improving.

Hopefully next time you can go even further Timmy, adda boooy!

 

[Borys]

Got some extra time on my hands (summer rocks when you only take one class) and I was wondering if DOOM 3 is worth buying. I loved DOOM and DOOM 2, played them to death on the PC but dont know how good the third one is. Give me your impressions!

Seems you'd better go with Serious Sam for the Xbox. Doom 3 ain't nothing like Doom 1 or 2.

 

[Property of Jumpship]

Looks like a rental then. How about Oddworld Stranger? Thanks for all the help.

 

[Gattsu25]

Seems you'd better go with Serious Sam for the Xbox. Doom 3 ain't nothing like Doom 1 or 2.

Serious Sam and Serious Sam Second Encounter on the PC :b
don't forget to play PAINKILLER on the PC...that game is even closer to the old doom games, has awesome levels, and generally kicks ass

I <3 Serious Sam's co-op though ( )

edit: Stranger's a kickass game...you'll love it. It has no replay value, though. Still, the story and gameplay are great...I love that game

 

[Rhindle]

Looks like a rental then. How about Oddworld Stranger? Thanks for all the help.

Both good games. I'd go with Doom 3. I thought it was quite well done, and it is loooong (probably too long to finish in a rental).

 

[cyberheater]

Don't listen to the Doom haters. Doom on Xbox is awesome providing that you observe some basic rules.

Play it with earphones and the lights completely off for the most frightening experience you'll ever have playing a vid game. It's awesome.

If your going to play it with the lights on a low volume level then forget it. Atmosphere is all with this game.

 

[Borys]

Serious Sam and Serious Sam Second Encounter on the PC :b
don't forget to play PAINKILLER on the PC...that game is even closer to the old doom games, has awesome levels, and generally kicks ass

I don't think he games on PC but yeah Painkiller is superawesome. Glorious graphics!

 

[SiegfriedFM]

When you play co-op, you don't get any PDAs, any puzzles or the Soul Cube. You just take down the bosses the old-fashioned way instead of finding out any special tricks.

 

[Dalthien]

Doom III - NO! (Get PC version if you absolutely must play this game.)
Oddworld Stranger's Wrath - YES!

 

[Gattsu25]

Don't listen to the Doom haters. Doom on Xbox is awesome providing that you observe some basic rules.

Play it with earphones and the lights completely off for the most frightening experience you'll ever have playing a vid game. It's awesome.

If your going to play it with the lights on a low volume level then forget it. Atmosphere is all with this game.

decent headphones would be better, but simply raising the volume with some good speakers suffices. PLAY. THE. GAME. ALONE. and make sure the only light you have while you play is coming from your TV screen

and yeah, screw the haters. Doom 3 might not be Divine sustanance but it's still a fun game with great atmosphere

 

[demi]

No.

 

[Rhindle]

Play it with earphones and the lights completely off for the most frightening experience you'll ever have playing a vid game. It's awesome.

I gotta agree with that. Doom 3 is the only game to ever get me to cry out spontaneously (on multiple occasions), it's great at keeping the tension on and throwing scares at you at just the right times.

 

[Reilly]

no, but for HL2 perhaps...

 

[Speevy]

It's pretty. It's fun. It's short. Rent it. Beat it.

 

[_Angelus_]

Its a cool game but I guess it depends on your tolerance at times. The deeper you play,the more *cheap attacks* you'll encounter...well cheap to me anyways. I guess it depends on whether you like having demons suddenly teleport and zap you from behind when just a few seconds earlier the area was secure. It a very involving game,lots of jump moments,but to me Serious Sam plays more like Doom than Doom3 did. I prefer my screen loaded with monsters where I'm running and gunning in wide open areas,running for my life. Doom3 never really does that sadly

Its still a pretty good game though because of its visual impact and cheap attacks,it keeps the tension up alot that way. Its worth a purchase,but everyone has their own price point so maybe you should wait abit.

 

[terrene]

Serious Sam and Serious Sam Second Encounter on the PC

Amen, brother. I'm personally of the quantity-over-quality crowd. Stalking a superintelligent beast for an hour in a dark corridor sounds, um, fun... but I'll take laying waste to a teeming horde of monsters Smash TV-style, anyday.

 

[gigapower]

buy buy buy.

 

[Property of Jumpship]

Took the rental advice and picked it up from Blockbuster this morning. I have to say that the graphics, sound design, and atmosphere are great. Gameplay is very basic but surprisingly fun. After Halo 2's huge sprawling levels being trapped in a space station is pretty entertaining. Game is fucking easy though, even on the hardest difficulty available at the outset (nightmare is locked) I played for 3 hours without dying. Until I fell off a fucking ledge in Alpha labs, stupid flashlight. Which brings me to my biggest gripe: WTF you must start over at the last saved point? I saved my game about 15 minutes in and havent saved again after that. So now if, and that's a big IF, I want to play again I have to retrace 2:45 minutes of work; yes if I have to do it again it's work. Where the hell is autosave and shit? That really sucks and is absolutely inexcusable IMO.

 

[akascream]

When you play co-op, you don't get any PDAs, any puzzles or the Soul Cube. You just take down the bosses the old-fashioned way instead of finding out any special tricks.

That explains it then. I even suggested as much, but the other guy was like freaking out that you needed the soul cube, and how screwed we were. He was one of those younger xbox live players heh.

nightmare is locked

Nightmare is a good challenge. Your life constantly ticks down (won't tick below 25), so it creates this urgency to move fast in order to maximize the life you get from medpacks and the soulcube. Makes things a bit more intense. =)

Where the hell is autosave and shit? That really sucks and is absolutely inexcusable IMO.

The select button is the quicksave button. Just push it a lot heh.

 

[Wario64]

Took the rental advice and picked it up from Blockbuster this morning. I have to say that the graphics, sound design, and atmosphere are great. Gameplay is very basic but surprisingly fun. After Halo 2's huge sprawling levels being trapped in a space station is pretty entertaining. Game is fucking easy though, even on the hardest difficulty available at the outset (nightmare is locked) I played for 3 hours without dying. Until I fell off a fucking ledge in Alpha labs, stupid flashlight. Which brings me to my biggest gripe: WTF you must start over at the last saved point? I saved my game about 15 minutes in and havent saved again after that. So now if, and that's a big IF, I want to play again I have to retrace 2:45 minutes of work; yes if I have to do it again it's work. Where the hell is autosave and shit? That really sucks and is absolutely inexcusable IMO.

there's a quicksave in Doom3. hit the "Back" button to save. works like a PC game.

 

[.hacked]

Yes Doom 3 is worth a purchase.

I guess having a game that is not locked down on rails confuses some people.

For those Killer 7 fans, try smashing an Xbox controller, take the exposed wires and randomly twist them together until something happens on screen. That should make Doom 3 much more playable for you rejects.

 

[Property of Jumpship]

there's a quicksave in Doom3. hit the "Back" button to save. works like a PC game.

Damn Blockbuster not giving manuals with rentals. Color me pissed.

 

[TeTr1C]

If you own the PC version, I don't think it's worth a buy.


But if you haven't, and you have someone else to experience the co-op with, definitely.

 

[JPRaup]

yes, especially if you have live

 

[akascream]

edit: akascream, you get Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 along with Doom 3. 4 player split-screen in the old games and all

Damnit, I didn't even realize there was a collectors edition, let alone such a kick ass bonus. I'm tempted to trade in my copy for a collector's edition. I think I saw one at EB last time I was there too.

 

[Ramirez]

How about Oddworld Stranger?

Hell no,rental at best...I bought it for 50 bucks,kill me now please.

 

[dark10x]

It is worth a purchase. Very solid game.

I guess having a game that is not locked down on rails confuses some people.

Ha ha, so you blasted right through games like Myst, 9, and the like eh? Not confusing at all, were they?

Hell no,rental at best...I bought it for 50 bucks,kill me now please

Wha? Stranger was fantastic. That's one of the first times I've heard anything negative about the game...

 

[Sinatar]

Stranger was absolutely awesome, I bought it at full price and didn't feel ripped off at all. In fact I think I'm going to play through it again now...

 

[Kolgar]

Late to the party, but...

After finally completing Far Cry last week, I must say that out of all the big PC FPS releases last year, DooM 3 is my favorite.

Half-Life just never grabbed me. Far Cry was pretty but otherwise unremarkable. DooM 3, on the other hand, put me smack-dab in fantastically rendered settings of bleakness and unspeakable evil. It may be simplistic, but like a carnival thrill ride, it WAS fun.

Now I'm considering buying the Xbox version so I can enjoy this adventure in the comfort of my living room - and frag with friends on the older Dooms' four-player deathmatch.

Worth a purchase? I'm starting to think so... Just for the Hell of it.

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

No.

I stole my friend's pc copy when he was done with it. I played for about two nights, and haven't touched it since. I guess if stuff jumping out of the dark scares you over and over again you'll like the atmosphere, cause that is theonly fright tactic the game uses. The game is slow also, with hardly any enemies on screen. It's exactly what you wouldn't think a doom sequel would be. Spend your money on something else.

 

[Gattsu25]

I guess if stuff jumping out of the dark scares you over and over again you'll like the atmosphere, cause that is theonly fright tactic the game uses.

Delta

 

[akascream]

The game isn't scary, but I felt anxiety while playing it. There's a difference.

 

[Gattsu25]

The game isn't scary, but I felt anxiety while playing it. There's a difference.

I wouldn't call the game scary either (Hell, there are only 2...3 games that I would) but that anxiety that you mention (what I feel is created by the game's atmosphere) is something else that few games can truly manage.

 

[dark10x]

I didn't feel any sort of fear or anxiety while playing, but I still loved the game (the gunplay is very enjoyable and arcade-like in its design).

The reason I believe the game failed to create any sense of fear is directly related to the method in which they introduce enemies into the levels. Games like Silent Hill or System Shock 2 were at their most terrifying when you KNEW something was around the corner...but did not know what it was or where it was. They took the feeling of uncertainty and bumped it up a notch through incredible sound design.

Enemies in Doom 3 generally "warp" into their areas and it is EXTREMELY obvious when they are doing so. It would be far more effective if they were to allow enemies to roam the levels rather than bring them in as needed. When an enemy appears, they immediately gun for you. When you are in danger, it is always painfully obvious, so moments of silence never actually raise any tension.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

I'd say, if it's anything like the PC game, which it obviously is - skip it. It was fun in the very beginning and got really boring quickly.

 

[dark10x]

I'd say, if it's anything like the PC game, which it obviously is - skip it. It was fun in the very beginning and got really boring quickly.

Obviously, I disagree with you (but we won't get into that).

It IS quite different than the PC game, however. The pacing is much faster and a lot of fat was trimmed. The levels no longer feel like endless crawls (which was a problem in the first quarter of the PC game).

 

[BuckRobotron]

I'm with those who make positive note of the potent atmosphere and tension of the game. Though if you have the opportunity to forgo headphones as one suggested and crank up the speakers/sub to neighborhood alert levels, that does the job even better.

The game is also fairly lengthy as well. I've had it for months and still haven't finished it since I like to take it in 1-2 hour snippets every couple weeks. Not because I don't want to continue, but because I like to wait until I can do just as I suggested: find down times where no one will complain about cranking this puppy up for full immersion.

Plus, I finally played through Doom 1 and 2 again (CE), and then for those on Live there is extra value as well. So Doom 3 is worth it, though with some time past since release and with the PC version going cheaper now, $30 now for regular edition seems appropriate.

Oh yeah, and it looks awesome too.