Shuggananas
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I really don't know, the price might be too much for it to go mainstream
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NormalFish
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That thread about oculus costing "up to 1500$" for all the tech was fucking hilarious.
And then they'll see it costs as much as a new PS4 and say "well that was cool" as they walk out empty handed.
I think if they are able to do widespread in-store demos, I think that would help. It's something you really need to experience to understand. When I played Elite: Dangerous on the thing. I looked down and could see the pilots hands on the controls. I scratched my head and was thown off by the fact that the pilots hands weren't moving.
Just like how people are still buying video cards that cost upwards of $500?
I don't think VR will take off too much in the console market, but in the PC space I think it has a lot of potential.
Shuggananas
Banned
I know but it's still more expensive than a TV and it's pretty much made for PCs because consoles will struggle with that shit
lol they never learn
NormalFish
Banned
Not that many people are buying video cards for 500$. If hypothetical company 'Blue' made video cards only in the 500$ range, they would likely not even bother marketting to the average consumer -- the same people who are going to either make or break VR. Just wait until people have consoles or 200$ GPUs that can run those games at the 60/120fps required for a smooth experience and then VR has a shot. Barrier to entry is ridiculous at the moment, and that's what's going to keep VR a niche device, eventually either rising to popularity with the new tech or crashing and burning as hardware makers decide it's not worth the continued investment.
they really don't. How long till the thread devolve into a product war?
Shuggananas
Banned
anyways
gyro needs a mkb if they want to win this, they can barely kill any hero and it's gonna get worse
gyro needs a mkb if they want to win this, they can barely kill any hero and it's gonna get worse
NormalFish
Banned
Just need C9 to throw them a boneanyways
gyro needs a mkb if they want to win this, they can barely kill any hero and it's gonna get worse
Shuggananas
Banned
"ownage"
ya sure, enjoy mega creeps
edit : oh my god I hope C9 lose this, even though it's not happening
ok that bash was bullshit
ya sure, enjoy mega creeps
edit : oh my god I hope C9 lose this, even though it's not happening
ok that bash was bullshit
Elitro
Member
Yep i watched it, VR is the future my friends.
Didn't watch the beginning thou, the GAF thread suggests it was terrible haha.
call_kotaku
Member
the Oculus press conference felt like a microsoft conference circa 2010 (which is appropriate since MS was there)
Not a lot of content but with a lot of awkwardness as filler
And saved the actual interesting reveal for when everyone already stopped giving a shit
Anyways I hope there's spectator mode for DOTA in VR coming, I think it would be a cool way to watch the game.
Not a lot of content but with a lot of awkwardness as filler
And saved the actual interesting reveal for when everyone already stopped giving a shit
Anyways I hope there's spectator mode for DOTA in VR coming, I think it would be a cool way to watch the game.
SilentRacoon
Member
I was watching early on and C9 had like 15 kills advantage, what the hell happened, now the game is stalled even with megas.
EE always with the worst calls.
EE always with the worst calls.
Shuggananas
Banned
razor undying abaddon fall off
they threw bodies at the rax for mega
no way they can lose no with T4s down
two rapiers
they threw bodies at the rax for mega
no way they can lose no with T4s down
two rapiers
This may seem like a dumb question, but what exactly is the appeal of Manta on Gyro as opposed to other items?
It's not really a great damage item and the illusions don't get Flak Cannon. The only real attractions of it is the dispel, move speed, making it hard to tell which one is the real one (although that goes all out the window as soon as you use a spell, and you'll probably use Flak Cannon), and to a lesser extent, the stats. I'd rather have an MKB though to put out substantial damage through Flak Cannon. If I really need a Dispel I can get a BKB, which protects me from other shit too. I mean I guess if the only disable is something like a silence, then maybe you could go Manta instead of BKB so you get the other benefits that BKB doesn't provide, but beyond that I don't see the point in Manta on Gyro.
It's not really a great damage item and the illusions don't get Flak Cannon. The only real attractions of it is the dispel, move speed, making it hard to tell which one is the real one (although that goes all out the window as soon as you use a spell, and you'll probably use Flak Cannon), and to a lesser extent, the stats. I'd rather have an MKB though to put out substantial damage through Flak Cannon. If I really need a Dispel I can get a BKB, which protects me from other shit too. I mean I guess if the only disable is something like a silence, then maybe you could go Manta instead of BKB so you get the other benefits that BKB doesn't provide, but beyond that I don't see the point in Manta on Gyro.
Shuggananas
Banned
just like dusa
only for purging and dodging shit (namely omnislash)
it's bad value otherwise
only for purging and dodging shit (namely omnislash)
it's bad value otherwise
I still disagree on the Dusa thing. Dusa gets Split Shot on the illusions, I think that is something that makes Manta worthwhile on her.
That's what I figured, SnY, MKB, and BKB are much better.
Monochromaticx
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BO1.
only for the seeding. So its fine imo
Shuggananas
Banned
illusions deal literally 0 because dusa has crappy agi gain anyways, and you build mostly raw damage. also they die in two hits because no mana shield and shit str gain
manta is mostly for purging, dodging and illusion heroes (ie pl tb am naga and I'm probably forgetting one or two. tiny too for obvious reasons)
edit : if you want MS just keep your yasha and don't upgrade it. phase should suffice, then you have skadi to not get kited. you're not keeping manta in a 6 slots situation anyway (unless theres some heavy shit to purge but I can't think of any and at that point on a game you'd ask a support to get lotus orb instead). the illusions really are crap
Actually I don't think I ever got to chime in in here on the Manta Dusa thing back when that argument was going on as I think I was banned at the time.
I'm on the pro-Manta Dusa side, for a few reasons.
1. Obviously the dispel is still appealing.
2. Move speed is great for her, as it helps her position or reposition herself during her ultimate.
3. Medusa is an AoE carry. She hits everyone with Split Shot, and Manta Illusions gain Split Shot if you had it on when you used it. This is effectively a damage increase for her, especially if you get people turned to stone from Stone Gaze. The Spirit Breaker gif/webm is a bad example because that's just one hero, a very tanky one at that, and no other skills are being applied beyond the illusions plinking away at him. Really the way it's used it walk into a teamfight, Stone Gaze, Manta, and hit everyone with your split shot on. Ideally you should have other items to back this up, maybe Butterfly, MKB, Skadi, or whatever else.
The point is that often people compare Medusa and Gyro and they are actually very different. They are only similar in Flak Cannon vs Split Shot, however they are very different. Medusa basically is tanky, rolls into a fight and just puts out continued damage on everyone, and with the team helping, they start dying. With Gyro, it's usually Call Down, Flak Cannon everyone, and then missile and Rocket Barrage for any stragglers. Of course you will Rocket Barrage multiple times in a teamfight since the cooldown is so short. However once Call Down and Flak Cannon are down, Gyro's AoE damage output drops significantly. I would say Medusa is a "sustained teamfight" carry while Gyro is more of a "one and done" carry. Neither is particularly bad, just different and are useful in different situations (although of course Gyro is in general stronger this patch, but Medusa is still great)
Luna is also a primary Manta carrier, the illusions get Moon Glaive and benefit from aura.
I'm on the pro-Manta Dusa side, for a few reasons.
1. Obviously the dispel is still appealing.
2. Move speed is great for her, as it helps her position or reposition herself during her ultimate.
3. Medusa is an AoE carry. She hits everyone with Split Shot, and Manta Illusions gain Split Shot if you had it on when you used it. This is effectively a damage increase for her, especially if you get people turned to stone from Stone Gaze. The Spirit Breaker gif/webm is a bad example because that's just one hero, a very tanky one at that, and no other skills are being applied beyond the illusions plinking away at him. Really the way it's used it walk into a teamfight, Stone Gaze, Manta, and hit everyone with your split shot on. Ideally you should have other items to back this up, maybe Butterfly, MKB, Skadi, or whatever else.
The point is that often people compare Medusa and Gyro and they are actually very different. They are only similar in Flak Cannon vs Split Shot, however they are very different. Medusa basically is tanky, rolls into a fight and just puts out continued damage on everyone, and with the team helping, they start dying. With Gyro, it's usually Call Down, Flak Cannon everyone, and then missile and Rocket Barrage for any stragglers. Of course you will Rocket Barrage multiple times in a teamfight since the cooldown is so short. However once Call Down and Flak Cannon are down, Gyro's AoE damage output drops significantly. I would say Medusa is a "sustained teamfight" carry while Gyro is more of a "one and done" carry. Neither is particularly bad, just different and are useful in different situations (although of course Gyro is in general stronger this patch, but Medusa is still great)
Luna is also a primary Manta carrier, the illusions get Moon Glaive and benefit from aura.
NormalFish
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Wok
Member
I agree with points 1 and 2, but point 3 is not very convincing: I have yet to meet a Medusa who would be dangerous because of her illusions. Point 3 should have been: you pick Yasha to farm faster, and naturally upgrade it into a Manta.
NormalFish
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oh, wait. Install on SSD and then do this:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/con...rsonal-folders-my-documents-another-drive.htm
with all your libraries. I currently have 3 hard drives. SSD for OS/Some Games/Some Software, HDD for all other software, HDD for general files. pretty painless to set up if you do it immediately. Pain in the fucking ass if you do it after installing some shit.
**Bulba what are you doing... That was so bad
We need a webm of that tp into sf requiem.
lv2 pidgey
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What are the specs of the whole build?
Yeah, I'm just going to wait until I get the SSD to install the OS. As much as I want to use the computer is rather not install everything twice.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/c2Q8qs
Shuggananas
Banned
23 minutes in LC has 0 duel damage
luna keeps dying with agi treads too, noice
luna keeps dying with agi treads too, noice
lv2 pidgey
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SilentRacoon
Member
Haven't been able to finish any challenges in ages, either because I forget or because we get stomped, Halp!!
manfestival
Member
this solo ranked lose streak i am on is so demoralizing
Literally have played every position to try to be a team player and its never enough
Literally have played every position to try to be a team player and its never enough
lv2 pidgey
Member
Latest challenge:
Deny 2 towers
Re roll challenge
Do 1k hero damage in one second.
I get 960 with timbersaw one game, then I get 940 with earthshaker another game.
Fuk
Might as well just change the challenge to press R with level 16 zeus.
could also just pick qop and have a multiman scream, the deny one btw also counts if its your teammates who deny the tower btw
SilentRacoon
Member
yeah zeus is your best bet, I have been stuck with deny 1 tower and end racks before 30:00 for about a week.
Shuggananas
Banned
unbelievable shit game
luna keeps dying solo like a fucking idiot with agi treads on the whole game
axe gets a rather fast blink, does nothing with it
LC 0 duel damage
couldn't even hit proper ice blast cause team got wiped so the enemy could just move out of the area
only phoenix was good but a phoenix ain't carrying a whole team
(notice the epic tower damage with a luna axe lineup)
luna keeps dying solo like a fucking idiot with agi treads on the whole game
axe gets a rather fast blink, does nothing with it
LC 0 duel damage
couldn't even hit proper ice blast cause team got wiped so the enemy could just move out of the area
only phoenix was good but a phoenix ain't carrying a whole team
(notice the epic tower damage with a luna axe lineup)
lv2 pidgey
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yeah zeus is your best bet, I have been stuck with deny 1 tower and end racks before 30:00 for about a week.
Hard challenge hard life. I don't have much luck with tower deny either. No way am I getting two in one game though.
Yeah. Ironically I don't think I've ever won a game when we get the tower denies.
Glass Shark
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