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[The_Player]

You'd rather have this?

Spoiler

She's an awesome hero by design, terrible art direction

Armoredbras the most tasteless idea in the history of the art.

 

[Haly]

Haly wants human centipede in dota confirmed?

Wise man say, never go ass to mouth.

They should've modeled bald Lina on Portman.

 

[Togglesworlh]

You'd rather have this?

I think everything in HoN is about the worst possible direction you can go.

Most of the females in Dota 2 are still a bit ridiculous. It would be nice if there were at least a few female that werent huge boobed bombshells (there's Puck, Broodmother and Spectre and maybe Enchantress. And two of those are a spider and a fae creature). Not that I dont like bombshells but the males have a lot more variety.

There's nothing stupid offensive in Dota 2 at this point in time. They are hot, but that's about it. That Lina art goes a lot further in that direction.

The only one that might fit that your description is Queen of Pain, but that's part of her character design overall, so what're you gonna do.

 

[HK-47]

That's the attempt at making that into a game model without really hefty hardware requirements.

It also looks really bad and unfinished like all the those models though. Are decent flames really that intensive for the source engine?

 

[Drkirby]

urn is also really good because it gives early strength and mana regen, which is what roaming support love. survivability and mana regen. almost as good as medallion of courage, but everyone can get medallion.

I think I may try Urn instead of Bracer on Lich. Sure, it cost an entire 350 more, but I think the active may be worth it, though I do trade 39 mana pool for 50% faster regen rate.

 

[x3r0123]

Most of the females in Dota 2 are still a bit ridiculous. It would be nice if there were at least a few female that werent huge boobed bombshells (there's Puck, Broodmother and Spectre and maybe Enchantress. And two of those are a spider and a fae creature). Not that I dont like bombshells but the males have a lot more variety.

there is qop/dusa/luna/death prophet and others

 

[Swag]

Not that I dont like bombshells but the males have a lot more variety.

That's because majority of the males aren't human, majority of the females are.

I think everything in HoN is about the worst possible direction you can go.

Lots of the HoN models shit on the DOTA 2 / DOTA equivalents, how you can say this is beyond me.

Corrupted Disciple / Female Pyromancer are prime examples.

 

[Togglesworlh]

That's the attempt at making that into a game model without really hefty hardware requirements.

Yeah, unfortunately the concept art for Lina isn't really doable. Sure, they could fix the face, but you'd still need some really nice fire to pull off the hair.

 

[Haly]

Hey let's not pretend there isn't any mancandy in DOTA.

Sven, Kunkka, Beastmaster, DK, Omniknight, Axe, Anti-mage, Faceless Void, Puck, Lich, Pugna and Ancient Apparition.

And that's only talking about the ones that are already in. Don't even get me started on Invoker, Silencer, Tuskarr, Magnataur, Rooftrellen, Io and Fuzzy Wuzzy.

Corrupted Disciple / Female Pyromancer are prime examples.

My main problem with Female Pyromancer was that her idle animation look like someone suffering from a seizure.

Actually a lot of HoN models have this problem. For an "idle" animation, they sure move a lot.

 

[Nirolak]

Most of the females in Dota 2 are still a bit ridiculous. It would be nice if there were at least a few female that werent huge boobed bombshells (there's Puck, Broodmother and Spectre and maybe Enchantress. And two of those are a spider and a fae creature). Not that I dont like bombshells but the males have a lot more variety.

As a note here, Puck is a guy:

Hero Introduction:
Loved by aggressive players everywhere, Puck the Fairie Dragon is one of the best heroes in the game at starting fights. Puck's skills are useful in any situation, giving him a lot of flexibility and making him a great hero in both support and offensive roles. His signatue skill, Illusory Orb, is an example of this. Although it functions like a regular line damage spell, at any time during its course Puck can use his Ethereal Jaunt skill and instantly teleport to the position of the Illusory Orb. This makes the spell useful in both attacking and escaping. It also works perfectly with his second offensive spell, Waning Rift. Waning Rift deals damage and silences in an area around Puck, making it the natural choice for use after an Illusory Orb and Ethereal Jaunt. Puck's final offensive spell, Dream Coil, can be used either before or after this combo with great effect. Dream Coil traps enemies in a small area, forcing them to remain near the target point or take damage and get stunned. To complement his need to get up into his target's face, Puck has Phase Shift to help in sticky situations. Phase Shift renders Puck invulnerable for several seconds, although he is unable to move in this state. Puck is a relatively easy hero to pick up, but a rewarding one to master.

Background Story:
In Sentinel's search for heroes to aid them in the war against the Scourge, they discovered the lost lands of the mystical Faerie Dragons. Upon explaining the conflict to the Faerie Queen of Agrace, she sent forth Puck, a personal guardian, to turn the tides of war. Despite his small size and mischievous personality, the little dragon soon proved to pack more than his fair share of power on the battlefield, blasting through the enemy ranks with balls of magic, faerie dust, and the capability to stupefy an entire army with nothing more than his imagination. His foes all learned the hard way that size matters not in combat, and that appearances are, ultimately, deceiving.

Source: http://www.playdota.com/heroes/faerie-dragon

 

[Drkirby]

What's wrong (in all seriousness) is that the outfit is ridiculous. Her boobs should be flopping all around, and popping out all the time with that outfit. It's just not a good costume design because it's entirely unrealistic. Yes, yes, magic, video games, whatever. That doesn't excuse this kind of thing.

Either decreasing breast size or increasing coverage would help. Both would be best.

Everything aside from that is pretty awesome, though. It's a nice piece of art.

She doesn't even move, she just floats around, so she can wear what ever the fuck she wants and go "Screw Physics"

 

[HK-47]

As a note here, Puck is a guy:


Source: http://www.playdota.com/heroes/faerie-dragon

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Puck

Noted her third skill description.

 

[Swag]

As a note here, Puck is a guy:

I think Puck is genderless

While Puck seems at first glance a mischievous, childish character, this quality masks an alien personality. The juvenile form of a Faerie Dragon, a creature that lives for eons, Puck spends countless millennia in its childish form. So while it is technically true that Puck is juvenile, it will continue to be so when the cities of the present age have sloughed away into dust. Its motives are therefore inscrutable, and what appears to be play may in fact hide a darker purpose. Its endless fondness for mischief is the true indicator of Puck's true nature.

Someone did tell me recently that it's a she, probably because it's voiced by a female.

Edit: Nvm it's cause of the third skill description.

 

[Nirolak]

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Puck

Noted her third skill description.

I think Puck is genderless


Someone did tell me recently that it's a she, probably because it's voiced by a female.

Huh, I guess they changed it.

 

[HK-47]

That's because majority of the males aren't human, majority of the females are.

Lots of the HoN models shit on the DOTA 2 / DOTA equivalents, how you can say this is beyond me.

Corrupted Disciple / Female Pyromancer are prime examples.

I notice plenty of older men but no older women. Kunkka, Necrolyte, Warlock, Beastmaster, Storm Spirit, Dark Seer. But a girl cant be a girl without being young and having an hourglass figure and big breasts.

 

[The_Player]

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Puck

Noted her third skill description.

Yeah, also Phase Shift is: "Puck briefly shifts into another dimension where she is immune from harm".

 

[Drkirby]

As a note here, Puck is a guy:


Source: http://www.playdota.com/heroes/faerie-dragon

The current lore actually doesn't refer to a gender, just saying "It"

While Puck seems on first glance a mischievous, childish character, this quality masks an alien personality. The juvenile form of an insectoid creature that lives for eons, Pucks spends countless millennia in its childish form. So while it is technically true that Puck is a child, it will continue to be so when the cities of the present age have sloughed away into dust. Its motives are therefore inscrutable, and what appears to be play may in fact hide a darker purpose. Its endless fondness for mischief is the true indicator of Puck's true nature.

But the spell descriptions make Puck a Girl:
"The Faerie Dragon sows confusion by forcing her enemies to vividly dream about their own mortality."

"With a quip and flash, Puck returns to the alien dimension from whence she came.

"With a mischievous grin, Puck spreads her enchanted powder which disrupts magical flow."

 

[HK-47]

I think Puck is genderless


Someone did tell me recently that it's a she, probably because it's voiced by a female.

Edit: Nvm it's cause of the third skill description.

Well than Morphling would be a girl too lol

 

[Haly]

I notice plenty of older men but no older women. Kunkka, Necrolyte, Warlock, Beastmaster, Storm Spirit, Dark Seer. But a girl cant be a girl without being young and having an hourglass figure and big breasts.

Death Prophet is deaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

You guys have to realize though, that the main reason there aren't any old women heroes is because WC3 didn't have any old women.

Unless you count Maiev and her bitches.

Well than Morphling would be a girl too lol

I'm fapping already.

 

[Stahsky]

I like ES

 

[Nirolak]

Death Prophet is deaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

You have to realize though, that the main reason there aren't any old women heroes is because WC3 didn't have any old women.

Unless you count Maiev and her bitches.

I'm fapping already.

Yeah, given that these are derivatives of Warcraft character models, a lot of them are quite a bit classier than they were as it stands.

 

[Haly]

God bless Samwise and his art style.

 

[HK-47]

Death Prophet is deaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

You guys have to realize though, that the main reason there aren't any old women heroes is because WC3 didn't have any old women.

Unless you count Maiev and her bitches.

I'm fapping already.

I know. I greatly dislike the whole WC style cause of that, despite it actually appealing to me on a baser level (the sexual dimorphism in WoW is hilarious and a little bit disgusting). But then again my favorite female character in gaming is an old, blind woman with one hand chopped off.

 

[Swag]

Well than Morphling would be a girl too lol

Huh? Morphling is voiced by David Scully. He sounds nothing like a girl.

 

[HK-47]

Huh? Morphling is voiced by David Scully. He sounds nothing like a girl.

I see. Originally it was listed that Jen Taylor did the voice and it was heavily modified. It was also originally said she did CM.

 

[bzm]

Guys im really disappointed that there are no heroes who are Proud, Strong Lakota women like myself, stupid hero designers!

Get real kids, play the game and stop bitching that there aint 85year old women running around shooting lightning and shit

 

[HK-47]

Guys im really disappointed that there are no heroes who are Proud, Strong Lakota women like myself, stupid hero designers!

Get real kids, play the game and stop bitching that there aint 85year old women running around shooting lightning and shit

Thanks for dumbing it down and erecting some good strawmans. Hey why dont you stop bitching and go play a game, kiddo.

Christ, dont be a cunt.

 

[Nirolak]

Do I need to start throwing people off bridges or can we have civil discussions without thread whining?

 

[Swag]

Get real kids, play the game and stop bitching that there aint 85year old women running around shooting lightning and shit

Defiler the closest thing we'll ever get sadly, or Wretched Hag?

Spoiler

Bro you and Kappy about to share the same fate

 

[bzm]

Thanks for dumbing it down and erecting some good strawmans. Hey why dont you stop bitching and go play a game, kiddo.

Christ, dont be a cunt.

Complaining about strawmans but throwing down some ad hominems? damn kid i can feel the upset from here

Defiler the closest thing we'll ever get sadly, or Wretched Hag?

Huh, guess so, but everyone ive met who plays hag regularly prefers the alternate skin. And well, i dont know anyone who plays def regularly

Bro you and Kappy about to share the same fate

it was meant to be??

 

[Swag]

Huh, guess so, but everyone ive met who plays hag regularly prefers the alternate skin. And well, i dont know anyone who plays def regularly

Isn't that because the swing on the attack animation is better on Wretched Hottie compared to Hag? Makes it easier to last hit.

 

[HK-47]

Complaining about strawmans but throwing down some ad hominems? damn kid i can feel the upset from here

Actually I was just giving what I got. But I was having a civil conversation before you came in and decided lets not do that and I'm not sure why. Did it bother you?

 

[bzm]

Defiler the closest thing we'll ever get sadly, or Wretched Hag?

Spoiler

Bro you and Kappy about to share the same fate

Isn't that because the swing on the attack animation is better on Wretched Hottie compared to Hag? Makes it easier to last hit.

not sure, but i recall hearing it was worse on hottie? I mean people still use the ss / pyro skins despite having worse spell animations

 

[Nirolak]

Well, we can try this again in two weeks.

Seriously, we sticky these every year.

Anyway, resume normal programming. I'll be out.

 

[krameriffic]

I notice plenty of older men but no older women. Kunkka, Necrolyte, Warlock, Beastmaster, Storm Spirit, Dark Seer. But a girl cant be a girl without being young and having an hourglass figure and big breasts.

Is this such a bad thing? Denying sexuality is a waste of time. They're pandering to their hugely male demographic, sure, but I'm ok with that.

 

[Haly]

Bzm this isn't HoNGAF thread.

Mods actually read this shit.

Say "hi" to yuber for me.

 

[Nirolak]

Is this such a bad thing? Denying sexuality is a waste of time. They're pandering to their hugely male demographic, sure, but I'm ok with that.

Since people seem concerned, I'd like to note that this post is a great way to disagree civilly.

Bzm this isn't HoNGAF thread.

Mods actually read this shit.

Say "hi" to yuber for me.

At least four to note. :lol

 

[HK-47]

Is this such a bad thing? Denying sexuality is a waste of time. They're pandering to their hugely male demographic, sure, but I'm ok with that.

I'm not denying sexuality. I dont want them to stop making pretty, young girls just like I wouldnt ask them to stop making handsome men. But I can usually trust for men to get wider variety to them. And I dont think appeal to majority is necessarily a good reason to ignore that. But I only brought it up cause I really like Valve's design work so far on Dota 2. I wouldnt have bothered saying anything if I didnt care about the game.

Also please realize I'm not singling out Dota 2 or anything nor do I necessarily expect anything to change. I'd like it to but I don't think it will.

 

[Drkirby]

Oh, this reminds me, am I the only one who feel's Entrantress' VA is overly creepy?

 

[HK-47]

Oh, this reminds me, am I the only one who feel's Entrantress' VA is overly creepy?

Her dialogue from Dota 1 also had a creepy cloud cuckoolander vibe to it. But I dont think the deliver is great. The lines are fine but the VA isnt convincing to me.

 

[Swag]

Say "hi" to yuber for me.

Yuber gone forever, BZM back in 2 weeks.

nor do I necessarily expect anything to change. I'd like it to but I don't think it will.

To be fair a lot of the unconventional Female heroes aren't in the game yet, Medusa, Death Prophet, Mortred to name a few.

Oh, this reminds me, am I the only one who feel's Entrantress' VA is overly creepy?

Enchantress has some of the worst lines / VA moments in the female cast.

 

[Haly]

Yuber gone forever, BZM back in 2 weeks.

They're still both in bannedville!

 

[Drkirby]

I still don't get why Yuber is so aggressive when ever he sees me, did I say something to piss him off or something?

 

[Haly]

why Yuber is so aggressive

Cause he's a born rager.

 

[2th]

after seeing 2th buy a magic stick as a starting item for jungle furion
this is now his theme song

theres a joke about LoL players somewhere around here

once. i did that ONCE!

also i hate you. lol

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Anyone else unable to connect to steam? Seems like it's having a lot of trouble today.

EDIT: Nevermind, it's working now.

 

[Swag]

I still don't get why Yuber is so aggressive when ever he sees me, did I say something to piss him off or something?

Too good.

Anyone else unable to connect to steam? Seems like it's having a lot of trouble today.

EDIT: Nevermind, it's working now.

it just went down for me but it's been doing that all day.

 

[Spruchy]

I still can't believe how many lines are recorded for every hero, deny taunts, missed skill shots, core item purchase, winning, Valve is going beyond the call of duty for injecting these characters with...character.

 

[Drkirby]

I hope they add a sell from stash option soon, I hate being unable to sell items when I get the wrong thing. "I wanted Wards, not a second Courier! "

I still can't believe how many lines are recorded for every hero, deny taunts, missed skill shots, core item purchase, winning, Valve is going beyond the call of duty for injecting these characters with...character.

Over 8 hours of VA and counting. Hope they have the VA on hand, since I would love more rivalry lines.

 

[HK-47]

Too good.


it just went down for me but it's been doing that all day.

It must be cause they are gonna patch in 5 heroes tomorrow. One day early, one day early!