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Dota 2 Beta Thread: [Brewmaster]

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So hey, guys.

I recently got this. I'm completely inexperienced and I won't appreciate it at all.

I'm your worst nightmare.

You're me from a few pages ago!

http://www.youtube.com/user/PurgeGamers/featured

This should get you started, but I'd also recommend spending some time spectating matches from the player's perspective. Helps you work out what you should be doing at the various stages of the game. Other than that, don't worry too much about sucking. Just ignore the dicks until you get your head around things. I started out failing horribly, but after a few matches and playing with a few heroes I actually managed to kill some people and help my team win.
 
When I'm feeling hungry, I like to eat a Mirana arrow to the face.

Mirana arrows, they'll leave you Stunned™!
 
Viper is so stupid. Every game I've played with him I just destroy everything that stands in my way. He seems like he'd be easy to shut down, too. I guess "lol pubs"?
 
His whipping boy, apparently. Goddamn OTK juggernaut.

GGs tonight, I see why people complain the IHs are lopsided, lol.

Nah I'm just messing around. You were just the only one I could kill with my ult.

Also I apologize for my actions in the last ih. I was just trying to bring fun to a horrible time.
 
I was crazy laggy both of the ih games :/ Could hardly move half the time, and the game with Earthshaker I couldn't move for about 5 minutes straight, so I was stuck in fountain and underleveled.
 
Nah I'm just messing around. You were just the only one I could kill with my ult.

Also I apologize for my actions in the last ih. I was just trying to bring fun to a horrible time.

I'm not sure Cm can farm enough where you CAN'T kill her with jugg's ult. lol

Games were a bit rough, particularly due to the servers shitting up the place. Good times regardless.
 
I'm not sure Cm can farm enough where you CAN'T kill her with jugg's ult. lol
Ghost Scepter negates his ult as well as blade fury. It's 1600g and gives +7 to all stats.

If you're farming well but getting squished by hard carries, it's something to consider.
 
36-46, fucking hell. This is getting to the point where I'm seriously considering refusing the 5th slot to some MM random. The last game of the night: I was Ancient Apparition, Trasher was on Night Stalker, EazyB was on Enchantress, and Luke Smith was on Windrunner. Our last player was a Riki. For the most part we played evenly during the early game, eventually breaking out in large part thanks to Trasher's stellar Night Stalker play. He just started racking up the kills, and we started pushing towers down. Our 5th never spoke to us at all, but fair enough, maybe he didn't speak English.

But somewhere along the way, our Riki stops trying. Suddenly he no longer knows how to use his silence cloud (which would spell his death and the death of teammates more than once), suddenly he's getting caught out of position in bad places, suddenly he's no longer contributing well to teamfights or tower pushes (and he was killing people earlier, he was fully capable of it), suddenly he's refusing to pick up an Aegis of the immortal even though he has a slot (and duly stole Trasher's urn after Trasher made room for it). We lost a barracks, we came back and won a teamfight, then our lovable 5th got tripped up in his own shoelaces and spelled the end of a crucial raxing attempt. For every glimmer of hope that surfaced afterward (successfully defending the mid rax whilst popping AM's aegis and killing 2 others), he was there to make sure nothing we attempted bore fruit. He earned every inch of that report.

Everything was firing on all cylinders, and then Riki wound up the pitch. It was the biggest throw of his life.
 
Ghost Scepter negates his ult as well as blade fury. It's 1600g and gives +7 to all stats.

If you're farming well but getting squished by hard carries, it's something to consider.

I was being somewhat facetious, but that one game last night where I played CM last night I was just milling along, helping in team fights, running around with full life and...oh hi Jugger*SHANK*. Didn't even make it past three hits, I think.

I was actually excited I got to play tinker, but then the other team got all the wards and sent Hyuna to countergank me every time I went to gank.

Yeah Hyun was on a rager last night.
 
"So what happens if Zeus reaches godlike and beyond godlike status in dota 2?"

Ah Dota 2 Dev forums, always good for a laugh.
 
it's not like experienced players know how to play multiple heroes.

But its more likely than a less experienced or new player knowing how to play multiple heroes.

Personally the only heroes I am atrocious with(laning phase at least, I can generally find a niche later on in the game) are Omni, Morph, Earthshaker(But I always get him randoming).
 
Ghost Scepter negates his ult as well as blade fury. It's 1600g and gives +7 to all stats.

What? would it not do more damage as Ghost Scepter only stops physical attacks but in return get 40% extra damage from magic spells.

What you want to get is a Eul's Scepter of Divinity. Pretty much shuts down a 1v1 gank.

You see him, you cast it on him then run away.
He ultis straight away, you cast the item on your self.
He spins to get closer, walk away with your improved +25 Movement Speed that the items gives.

I was being somewhat facetious, but that one game last night where I played CM last night I was just milling along, helping in team fights, running around with full life and...oh hi Jugger*SHANK*. Didn't even make it past three hits, I think.

Juggernaut tips.

Uilti - stay near creeps or TP away only after first hit which is mini-stun.

Spins - TP away.

Eul's Scepter of Divinity + TP = misery.
 
So I did a matchmaking with 4 other GAFfers last night and one moment in that match made me realized something: I need to understand items better.

I was playing Windrunner and the other people around me were killed, so 3 guys were chasing me. I put on my Windrun and Mirana was right on top of me, then my Windrun ran out. Someone said "Use your Phase Boots!" and I said on the mic "I don't have any!", he was like "Why not?" and I said "Because it's not on Windrunner's reccomended items!"

I need to learn items, and ways of figuring out what goes with who, and also explanations of why some of the reccomended items are the way they are.

Why is Magic Stick > Magic Wand in nearly every reccomended build? Sure that's a useful item, but it seems weird that with this thing it's just "one size fits all".

Why do some people rush to a specific item (usually the stuff you see in "Situational Items")? They sell other stuff and only care about getting to that one item (for instance rushing to Vlads). When is this appropriate?

When picking items for someone, are you wanting to capitalize on their stats that are already high or what? How do you determine who needs an item like Vladimir's Offering? I've gotten both flak and praise for using Vladimir's Offering as Broodmother before, really confusing.
 
1) Magic Wand is one of the best items in the game. A fully charged wand can instantly give 225 HP/mana which can change the difference in a clash.

2) The most common example of rushing items is when initiators try to buy Blink Dagger ASAP so that their presence can be felt sooner. An Earthshaker with Blink is much more lethal than one without. If you are dying alot or farming poorly, a stopgap item might be a good idea.

(The only time I can think of someone rushing Vlad's is if they are playing Fuzzy Wuzzy and want to solo Roshan)

3) You usually want to itemize by building items that help amplify inherent strengths and/or cover up weaknesses.

Examples: Dazzle's abilities all deal physical damage and manipulate armor. Medallion of Courage synchronizes well with his abilities and makes them indirectly stronger.

Anti-Mage is fairly squishy melee hero and benefits from having a Vanguard to help make up for that inherent weakness.
 
I was the Razor in that group, being pretty much the most ineffective carry ever. Not beating myself up though since it was only my second or third time trying a hard carry.

I'm finally starting to get a hang of the items, through reading tons of guides
while at work
.
Purge's videos
are really helpful for this, since when he spotlights a hero he thoroughly explains the decision process behind each item purchased and shows it in action.
 
I was playing Windrunner and the other people around me were killed, so 3 guys were chasing me. I put on my Windrun and Mirana was right on top of me, then my Windrun ran out. Someone said "Use your Phase Boots!" and I said on the mic "I don't have any!", he was like "Why not?" and I said "Because it's not on Windrunner's reccomended items!"
Lots of the recommended items are ass, and don't really make sense, you should just download the updated list I made, it's a lot better and makes a more cohesive build on a lot of the heroes.
 
The asshole in your avatar ended my fantasy season.

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