Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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SteveWinwood said:
That's what I figured would happen, at least with one or two of them, and then they'd be able to drag over some of the others. The problem is I got them to play it like once. I've started playing lol a bit with them just so at the end maybe they'd play a game or two and that would get them hooked. Hasn't worked yet, and lol is really boring, I like just playing with them though.
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Yeah, it definitely took more than once (more like a couple dozen games or so). Took probably a few hundred before he told me preferred Dota 2 now, heh.
 
So, question, how do you guys pick which heroes to play? I started playing a few weeks ago so I've been mostly doing random and a game is enough to learn a hero's abilities and how they play but I know I would be doing better if I was playing just one or two heroes
 
Some of my friends played dota for a few weeks and went bck to league of lehendas, they admit lol sucks and dota is a better game, they just prefer playing it because they know the heroes and prefer the ranking system. It drived me nuts for some time, now I just let them be.

bte, I just bet for TBD against Alliance, not even kiddings. TBD best team USA.
 
Ugh I don't know what is wrong with me today.. I am still new to the game, but I am playing extra bad, haven't won a game yet :(

Problem is most games I'm learning a new hero so while I get accustomed everyone else is whooping butt.. I might go back to bot matches for a while
 
BraXzy said:
Ugh I don't know what is wrong with me today.. I am still new to the game, but I am playing extra bad, haven't won a game yet :(

Problem is most games I'm learning a new hero so while I get accustomed everyone else is whooping butt.. I might go back to bot matches for a while
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Best way to learn is to play the same hero 4 or 5 times back to back till you feel that you know what he does and just repeat that until you work your way through all of the heroes that you are interested in playing.
 
KingKong said:
So, question, how do you guys pick which heroes to play? I started playing a few weeks ago so I've been mostly doing random and a game is enough to learn a hero's abilities and how they play but I know I would be doing better if I was playing just one or two heroes
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Read the OP
 
Have this been posted ?

Leaked changelog for 6.78

- Reality Rift now rotates both heroes by a random angle (doesn't always guarantee a Tether stun).
- Demonic Conversion can be cast on any item left on the ground, apart from Divine Rapier.
- Morphling assumes the shape of another unit. Can be any
| hero or creep. Morphling assumes every particularity of
| the unit: damage, range, movespeed, animations, stats,
| etc. He retains his own items and his own spells (he
| can Morph his new stats if he replicated a hero).
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ha !
 
It was posted a few weeks ago. It could very well be real, but even if it is, that's no guarantee that any of the changes listed are coming. Legitimate logs/wc3 maps have leaked in the past with all sorts of interesting shit that hasn't seen daylight.
 
ok, ppl talking shit here, you should have seen kazabi (the guy who predicted pa pick yday) play razer, it's not fucking ok to think that he's bad, if you weren't there your words are worth nothing
 
Sgt.Pepper said:
Razor really needs a STR buff.
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Nah man, he's fine. I'm trying to bring him back into the meta. From our CM inhouse tonight:
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Edit: We were losing pretty hard early game
 
I'm not saying PL is overpowered, but jesus christ it's annoying if your team has no push and he spends the whole game splitpushing you, and you couldn't do anything against him in lane.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/203773537

Tide and I Had to lane against PL + KotL, it was horrendous. This was my best Timbersaw game ever though.
 
KingKong said:
Oh I dont mean which to play for a newbie, I mean like how do you decide what you want, like different ones every time or usually the same
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Well ideally you want to be at least competent with everyone, but in your position I'd say you want to learn to be good with at least one or two heroes in every role so that you can fill what slot you think your team needs. The broad strokes of the roles I'd focus on learning would be carry, ganker, and offensive and defensive support. The role of initiator usually falls into one of those middle two. Then you get to be that guy who waits until three of his team members make their selections, two of which are melee carries, take a hard support, ask for another one, and have the fifth guy pick Anti-Mage ten seconds before the horn sounds.

Maybe learn a pusher like Natures Prophet or Tinker or something as well.
 
Anybody experienced this?

Tried modifying the item builds in the dota2 site and when in-game it went to blank and I can't edit it anymore. :/

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Modified like 6 of my most used heroes and now it's fucked :/
 
Razor is one of my favorite characters to play. HP+Movement Speed build is hilarious and so fun.

The only hero that I might find more fun is QoP.
 
So I am new to the game, been have been playing for the past week, came from LoL (haven't played that in 6 months) and have been just joining solo and regular matches. I am having a hell of a time and it is getting really frustrating. I was given the advice that I should random every match to get the hang of the different heroes, and I am sure that that is part of the problem, but I suck, like, really bad. Is doing the random thing every match just really worth it in the long run and should I stick with it?
 
Bloodsent said:
So I am new to the game, been have been playing for the past week, came from LoL (haven't played that in 6 months) and have been just joining solo and regular matches. I am having a hell of a time and it is getting really frustrating. I was given the advice that I should random every match to get the hang of the different heroes, and I am sure that that is part of the problem, but I suck, like, really bad. Is doing the random thing every match just really worth it in the long run and should I stick with it?
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I personally think the whole random all the time to learn is a load of crock...it's best to concentrate on a handful of heroes, read guides, play bot matches and play matches with them ...once you're comfortable with them, move onto another group and do the same..
 
LGD Spectre!

Go, I think LGD is best TBD team for my bets.

Edit: Did Select confirm that on stream? well, qpad should just get a carry and get to normal roles.
 
Einbroch said:
But I'm a noob and she's like, super noob friendly. We were meant to be together.
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I would call her more of a noob trap then noob friendly. She looks really easy on paper, but has no escape, no HP, and her damage goes out the window if the enemy gets too close.
 
Bloodsent said:
So I am new to the game, been have been playing for the past week, came from LoL (haven't played that in 6 months) and have been just joining solo and regular matches. I am having a hell of a time and it is getting really frustrating. I was given the advice that I should random every match to get the hang of the different heroes, and I am sure that that is part of the problem, but I suck, like, really bad. Is doing the random thing every match just really worth it in the long run and should I stick with it?
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I think beginners should just pick a good starter hero (Skelly King, Viper, etc - see op for more) and just play 30ish matches with them just to get the core DOTA mechanics down.

Once you have about 100 wins, then I'd recommend randoming since its a fun way to learn the heroes and the extra starter gold always helps. However learning all the heroes isn't going to help if you don't have the core mechanics down.
 
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