Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]
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that1dude24
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tusk tusk tusky tusk
Heavy's Sandvich
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Dreams-Visions
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This, such a beast initiaton on team fights.
Dreams-Visions
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SB is such an asshole. He scares the shit out of me when I don't see him coming. Shit is like a Zeus ult out of the blue.
I've had a ton of success with him, so long as the team knows how his sleep works. Get into position like it was a Naga ult, then destroy as soon as the ult goes off.
Heavy's Sandvich
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My top 3 for new competitive people:
1. Death Prophet
2. Earth Shaker
3. Mirana
1. Death Prophet
2. Earth Shaker
3. Mirana
Anuxinamoon
Shaper Divine
<3 Though I haven't been playing her as much as I'd like since I am learning shadow demon, she will always have my heart buff or no buff. (But plx iceyfrag I needs more movement speed and turn rate T__T)
I H8 Memes
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We should collect all of the DNA from her vagina then use it to inseminate an American woman then 2 decades later send the progeny to Korea to take revenge for all of the loses esports teams of the west have suffered.
shira
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SteveWinwood
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This thread will now take a terrible direction.
She hasn't quite revenged for the world yet, but I still believe! #scarlettfighting
sorijealut
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What happened to this thread!?
The Technomancer
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I want to see more competitive Timbersaw
Captain Fish
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Whenever I play Timber, I feel his lack of mana and general early squish and inability to farm, but he's able to get kills with so little, and once you get that first kill you just snowball with the gold you have. Once you have good mana regen you can farm so well with your skills.
I'm not sure how you buff him early without making him even more beastly after he starts snowballing. I think he could work well in lanes that are designed to get kills early on even without any buffing.
He'll always be less useful from a damage standpoint for base sieges, and bkb completely stops his effectiveness (even blocks his ulti's slow *frownyface*). I do feel he does fill that role of a high gps support like dark seer (after he has good mp regen), so he can get stuff like Pipe or Shiva's to make up for his abilities being useless in those sieges.
I would like to see a Sceptre upgrade to make his ulti more useful to make up for the fact that his other skills won't come out as often in the enemy base.
Anuxinamoon
Shaper Divine
Vaginas apparently?
Also gonna be uploading these new wings today or tomorrow. Weee
Damn look at dat flap flap
Were Tusk and Huskar ever used competitively in Dota 1? I have never heard about either of them being considered useful competitively, especially Tusk since he has only been around a few patches if I recall correctly.
Anuxinamoon
Shaper Divine
I want to play this game, but it looks so confusing and intimidating
Play it, the confusing and intimidating part is one of the best things, cause when you win your first real match, you will be like IM KING OF DAT MOTHERFUCKEN WORLD!
Then you will proceed to loose the next ten games.
But its so much fun, even when you loose. Reading up on different ways to play your chosen character is so fun, especially when they work
What would it take to make him viable to everyone else? He's already a strong hero, just no one uses him. Dusa and Morphing need to come back. Morph is probably still a sore spot for some I'm sure. Shotgun isn't near what it used to be.
I think they came close to making Drow viable, but the various attempts made her OP, so she went back to being nothing.
Bloodseeker...no idea what could make him viable. Maybe add an item silence to Bloodrage too? It would make it much more of a risk/reward system. A basher would pretty much be essential against carries reliant on AS.
Pureauthor
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Competitive games have very little to do with how exciting the heroes are to play.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
She's as boring as any other ultra-hard carry. She's as boring as a Lancer.
What could be done to make her more viable? It seems like the current payoff to farming her isn't strong enough compared to other mega-carries?
Maybe give her mana shield a bit of reflection a-la Spectre?
Maybe allow orb effects (but not bonus damage) on the Split Arrows?
Spirit of Jazz
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I don't know about that. Bloodrage's current best utility is for buffing up your hard carry, the item silence would mean its only use would be silencing supports. I think Thirst needs to be replaced with something more useful but I have no idea what, possibly something that works like a force staff (making forcestaff unpurchasable for him if that would be too much) and then put some of the truesight or speed as a passive part of his ulti.
I don't know about that, she's like a more ridiculous version of farmed Gyro when she gets big enough. However unlikely Gyro she's pretty useless up until the late game, I think she's fine as she is. I'd like to see more Tusk, Invoker, Omni, Dazzle, AA, CM, Enigma, and Tide. The last two simply because they've been made pretty much redundant since Magnus entered the pool.
Pureauthor
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To make Bloodseeker viable:
Buff Slark until he's a tier 1 pick in the metagame.
Get a pro team to pick Bloodseeker against Slark and watch as everyone realizes how Bloodseeker completely and utterly cripples Slark's primary style of play.
Buff Slark until he's a tier 1 pick in the metagame.
Get a pro team to pick Bloodseeker against Slark and watch as everyone realizes how Bloodseeker completely and utterly cripples Slark's primary style of play.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Long range targeted version of Axe's Battle Cry? Unit in a 400/600/800/1000 range is forced to run to Bloodseeker for three seconds?
Filth
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Vaginas apparently?
Also gonna be uploading these new wings today or tomorrow. Weee
I SAID A HIPPO FOR LUNA.
SteveWinwood
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This reminded me that they still haven't fixed the bug that chilling touch has with her split that it applies to all targets.
Why would someone low health run towards him? Makes no sense
Maybe everyone who is within a 1000 radius and below 20% health has a movement speed reduction. Although that might be too strong.The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I want this as well
Put me down for a Hippo as well.
Filth
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Why are you suprised? People in here want drow to be used, she has to be way more boring than dusa is.
Mr Touchdown
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DotA2 needs more Dazzle.
He's so much fun as it is, hard to think of any buffs though.
He's so much fun as it is, hard to think of any buffs though.
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