Sgt.Pepper
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Either stun duration, or make the poison/slow not being absolute shit after 15 mins in.
Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]
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He's a strong hero, but unless you have someone who can specialize like that, he's not strong enough. Strip PL of his magic resistance passive on his ult and give it to Meepo? Everybuddeh happeh.
The Technomancer
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Personally I'd like a buff to his heal, but that's just me. Its basically useless after like, the first fifteen to twenty minutes. I mean, 140 health, even on every member of the team, isn't a whole lot even in the midgame.
The payoff is fine when you consider she is the single best 1v5 hero in the game. She is more than strong enough late game.
The reason no one plays her is because she is probably the worst level 1 hero in the game. She has pretty mediocre base damage for a carry, the worst starting HP, a pretty bad attack animation and none of her abilities are really useful at all at level one.
I'd say she needs a slight boost to starting hp and a better animation to make it a bit easier to make it to the midgame.
CarbonatedFalcon
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spootime
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starting dmg buff could be nice as well
SteveWinwood
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Meepo.
He should have a faster projectile speed for the nets.
I think that's it. That's what he needs. Done. Hero is good now.
And this is coming from a meepo expert.
He should have a faster projectile speed for the nets.
I think that's it. That's what he needs. Done. Hero is good now.
And this is coming from a meepo expert.
That game was terrible, so much more I could have done. I need to practice more meepo ;_;
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I thought that was an actual bug in dota 2, his nets are too slow.
I want to play this game, but it looks so confusing and intimidating
It is intimidating at first but you should give it a try. Very hard to learn and to master but it is pretty satisfying when you do last hits and kill a hero.
Yesterday I had your problems, but today it seems fine.
Yes, I definitely get that problem too. Just BTS, as well.
Mystic Snake is solid for harassment. Decent damage, mana drain, and almost free to cast if you can hit at least one hero + the ranged creep. Of course, she has nothing to help get a gank in her lane, and nothing to avoid getting ganked. On top of that, using Mystic Snake to harass pushes the lane, leaving her vulnerable.
Pretty terrible, but I'm not convinced she's worse than Spectre.
SteveWinwood
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What? For real? Get your shit together valve.
After some googling, it's the cast time, not the projectile speed. Well, whatever. I'll take it.
Stronghammer22
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I've just started using Meepo, he is a lot of fun but his net is a bitch to land. Even blinking right next to an enemy sometimes doesn't allow enough time for the net. You need a teammate with a reliable stun, so you can simply waddle up to the enemy and have a 100% chance of landing the net. Then, they're more than likely dead. He is a very situational pick though, as so many heroes can screw him over. My first game with him went horribly, due to Jakiro, Spirit Breaker, Lifestealer...lol, horrible decision on my behalf. My last couple have been glorious however.
CarbonatedFalcon
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I usually just go treads nowadays after the Tranquils nerf. Tread toggle for mana if you need it, and the attack speed is good. Not that I play him all that much. And apparently Tranquils still has a bug where it will give the broken speed on the illusions.
So apparantly this gd pub (not 2gd, the gaffer gd) is telling me that Synderyn said on his stream yesterday that some pros have gotten the 6.78 changelog and it's coming right after the qualis. Bulldog claimed that bottlecrowing is gone. We'll see if that's true or not (plz be true).
One thing people forget with bottle is that it's always sold 15-20 minutes later, and so you're basically getting a 300g unlimited triple health/manapot infusion on a 20s CD with bottlecrow. If bottle was 1000-2000g to reflect it's true value, by all means, let bottlecrow stay in the game.
One thing people forget with bottle is that it's always sold 15-20 minutes later, and so you're basically getting a 300g unlimited triple health/manapot infusion on a 20s CD with bottlecrow. If bottle was 1000-2000g to reflect it's true value, by all means, let bottlecrow stay in the game.
Nets go through BKB though if I'm not mistaken, so as long as you don't load up on Hearts, that should be good against Lifestealer.
After my most recent and first successful Meepo game, I've figured out the secret to playing him. Basically, you will rarely need to control Meepos 2-5 individually. You farm the lane with Meepo 1, and have the others in the jungle, Poof then in when you need them. You want a Blink and Scepter, with Tranquil Boots. You will always keep your 2-5 Meepos farming jungle. If you find a fight with Meepo 1, Blink him in, net, and Poof the others in. This is made easier by the tab key. Just repeatedly hit tab > W > left click until all Meepos are present. Then you can have them attack a target, and you have tab netting at your disposal. When you have Scepter, the towers and heroes will just drop. In my game, the OD ended up raking in most of the kills, but we could push so fast with me. Hell, we could outpush a PL.
Also watch the health bars on the left. Click those portraits and pull out Meepos as necessary. That reminds me. I would love play Meepo on a team with a Chen. Instant safety for any low health Meepos, then they can come back when they are ready again. The other day I played Chen on a team against a Doom. He would Doom someone that was not me every time, they would come to me, and I would give them a sendback. There was one time the Necrolyte on the team got Doomed and he freaked out for a second trying to find me, but I was right there and had already started the sendback immediately.
meepo net doesn't go through bkb, only naga's
Dreams-Visions
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HAHAHA
my boys Rising Stars stylin on these mothafuckas.
GET EM BOYS.
my boys Rising Stars stylin on these mothafuckas.
GET EM BOYS.
That was what I was thinking of then. Maybe the Meepo buff could come from this. 5 BKB penetrating nets would be OP as hell, but maybe having the main Meepo's net only go through BKB.
Angelus Errare
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shira
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Dreams calling his shot. Way back from the start.
pieatorium
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bets on awisp ban this game?
Fine with the Radiance pickup on Spectre (had a 21 minute Relic on top of matters), but I really did not like the Manta to follow it up. PA had more HP, more armor, more damage... more everything. I think the more defensive, classic Rad + Heart build would have allowed her to tank a little bit more damage and die a little less in those pivotal fights.
Did he even cast Relocate at all?
Really felt the Wisp could have done more here and I think some items should have been different. The deserved the win, but damn did that game drag.
Not even once :|
And now the Batrider traps himself for 20 seconds on the ledge. It really seems like the Eastern teams rarely use the Western heroes.
meepo's net used to go through bkb and he had better stat gains at one point, but it was just too good at the time, and he got nerfed down pretty hard.
Pureauthor
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After a certain point LGD almost exclusively 5-manned. Relocate would have only fed 2 kills to LGD at that point.
Batrider use originated in the East...
Stronghammer22
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I tried!!! Lol, it was sad to see the net do nothing. It was really the combo of SB+LF that destroyed me, damn N'aix bombs.
He is intimidating to begin with and a lot of people question the pick (I had a couple of people say "Why the hell would you pick Meepo?" etc), but once you get your key binds sorted and the whole tab W thing, he is crazy good. It's so easy to get ahead with the quick farming ability Poof provides. Being able to rotate Meepos in and out of the fountain is very useful too, as you're never truly out of the fight. I do basically the same as you; it seems to be the best way, at least without getting into some serious microing.
Last game, we were down 4 towers to 0. We carried hard though and made it look like a stomp, on paper.
No BoT. I can't even look at you right now.
shira
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Angelus Errare
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No problems on my end. Only time I ever have lag issues is right before the game loads after hero selection. Then again my attention is split so I'm probably not noticing it D:
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