Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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Well except it doesnt stop his split push at all, or his illusions being hard to nuke down after heart or that he still gets most of his damage from diff blade. This was just a token nerf to make the whiners calm down.

It nerfs his farming ability and his split push ability. All of his illusions are dealing 25% less damage to creeps, so they are going to farm slower, miss more lane creeps, and push slower.
 
I worry about PL like I worry about any other carry in a game. I know the key is to not let him farm. The same thing can happen with a Faceless Void, a Luna, or hell even a Lycan if you really let him have freefarm (Anbokr pls).
 
Why do dota patches always take forever to download? Are they installing patches bit by bit? I always get to like 40% and then it stops for 5 minutes
 
I hate this thought process. Aggression is better so we need to nerf all defensive heroes. Its not just treant that gets this but any hero that makes base breaking hard or diffuses aggression.

Well you know I don't really give 2 shits if you hate it or not. It's my opinion on the matter, and you can feel free to have yours. In my opinion, Tree makes early game a bit imbalanced for the team that doesn't have Tree. By the time we get to a point where we're "breaking the base", Tree is irrelevant because his damage reduction begins to not matter after 20 minutes or so. My problem with him is that he stops kills in their tracks for basically free, as the mana cost is non-existent and the cooldown is what? 10 seconds? 14? something extremely low.

I don't really care what they do or how they do it. Make the cooldown 25 seconds. Make it an aoe with a large radius. Reduce the damage reduction. I don't care. I just don't like it. It's basically a superior Shallow Grave, with half the cooldown at 1/3 the mana cost. It should be addressed just like Keeper was addressed. You probably weren't complaining when they put the breaks on Keeper's early-game spamming ability, so why are we acting brand new about heroes that are too strong early now? He needs a skill that scales as the game goes along. Leech Seed needs a reworking again. But the current incarnation of Living Armor is overpowered for the first 15 minutes of the game. That's my opinion on the matter. It's cool you disagree, but it for damn sure won't change my opinion.
 
That's what they said about Naga.

No, what they said about Naga was her nerfs to base damage and riptide devastated her laning, especially trilaning offensively. That and she lost her amazing interaction with repositioning abilities on her ultimate.
 
I realized there was one thing I was disappointed about in 6.78: No Vanguard changes at all.

That item is still garbage 99% of the time and will remain that way until something changes on it. I think making it dissassembalable is the way to go here...
 
There will probably still be a patch tomorrow. High chances for Abbadon, lower chances for LC

I know that there hasn't been really any updates to LC's textures and particle effects lately, but LC is the one that was teased in the latest concept art. It would be the first time they changed their mind after already teasing a hero, right?
 
I know that there hasn't been really any updates to LC's textures and particle effects lately, but LC is the one that was teased in the latest concept art. It would be the first time they changed their mind after already teasing a hero, right?

What latest concept art? The last concept art I remember had both abaddon and LC as well as other heroes.
 
What latest concept art? The last concept art I remember had both abaddon and LC as well as other heroes.

This:

keyart_eldr_ttn.jpg
 
I know that there hasn't been really any updates to LC's textures and particle effects lately, but LC is the one that was teased in the latest concept art. It would be the first time they changed their mind after already teasing a hero, right?

I'm pretty sure they teased nyx once and then released another hero before him.
 
I realized there was one thing I was disappointed about in 6.78: No Vanguard changes at all.

That item is still garbage 99% of the time and will remain that way until something changes on it. I think making it dissassembalable is the way to go here...

I agree. I think Axe is the only hero that benefits from the block, regen and health offered by the item but with the current meta, it is just a waste of gold as you can go for blink or shadow blade if you have additional farm. I'm not so sure about disassembling but maybe adding an active skill like a 70% physical damage reduction for 3 seconds will be good imo.
 
I realized there was one thing I was disappointed about in 6.78: No Vanguard changes at all.

That item is still garbage 99% of the time and will remain that way until something changes on it. I think making it dissassembalable is the way to go here...

Why is Vanguard useless? Can someone explain that to me?
 
Why is Vanguard useless? Can someone explain that to me?

It's one of those items that really depends on how soon you can get it up and running, and how much right-click damage the enemy is capable of dealing. If you can't have it up and running in under 11 minutes, it's window of usefulness will close. Kinda like getting a 30-minute mek.
 
So there's definitely a reason Huskar is out of CM.

He's pretty much immortal with an armlet. Some grade A bullshit right there.

But it may have just been the fact that our Necro mid fed him at least 3 times, and the enemy team was a 5 stack while I got paired with a 3...
 
So there's definitely a reason Huskar is out of CM.

He's pretty much immortal with an armlet. Some grade A bullshit right there.

But it may have just been the fact that our Necro mid fed him at least 3 times, and the enemy team was a 5 stack while I got paired with a 3...

Yeah new huskar is OP it seems with Armlet. Just had a game where he was ridic.
 
Valve made the Range Display a cheat command. I'm gonna miss my circle.

Also, does Huskar keep his magic resistance if you sheep him? Because if not, just do that.
 
Has Valve given any kind of timetable on when they will be opening the Steam Market up for normal Dota items?



Valve made the Range Display a cheat command. I'm gonna miss my circle.

WTF!? Why? I figured that maybe my config got overwritten with the update and that why it wasnt working.
 
It's one of those items that really depends on how soon you can get it up and running, and how much right-click damage the enemy is capable of dealing. If you can't have it up and running in under 11 minutes, it's window of usefulness will close. Kinda like getting a 30-minute mek.

Too expensive for what it does. The damage block isn't even better than a poormans, very shitty for many heroes.

Might as well just get armor and get other items for HP.

Thanks! So what's a good alternative for it on Dark Seer?
 
welp, my dreams of solo level 1 rosh have ended.

This was the story yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2_Z2KE_W3mE

and sometime between then and the patch dropping, the cooldown on the Ursa passive got a special cooldown of 6 seconds *just* for Roshan, and 15 for everything else. It would have needed to be 8 or 9 seconds for Ursa to be able to solo him on level 1.

If you dont have roshan wards, you deserve to have this happen to you. I dont know why this had to be changed.
 
Valve made the Range Display a cheat command. I'm gonna miss my circle.

Also, does Huskar keep his magic resistance if you sheep him? Because if not, just do that.

I guess the problem would be picking up a sheep before armlet Huskar crushes you.
 
I guess the problem would be picking up a sheep before armlet Huskar crushes you.

Which is pretty much impossible unless you're massively winning anyway. Armlet is a 2600 gold item, Sheep is 5675.

They could do something kooky like make it so Huskar can't buy armlet ala Pudge and blink, but there is certainly going to be a fix of some sort before too long.
 
I guess the problem would be picking up a sheep before armlet Huskar crushes you.

You could have just pick one of the heroes with the built in Sheep, but it doesn't matter, sheep doesn't get rid of Berserk's blood, just gave it a test.

So I guess you ether need to beat the shit out of him with someone like Ursa, or get some Pure Damage from someone like Tinker or Timber Saw. Gonna be a lot of pub stomping tonight. Huskar is going to be a great pocket pick in pro games.
 
You could have just pick one of the heroes with the built in Sheep, but it doesn't matter, sheep doesn't get rid of Berserk's blood, just gave it a test.

So I guess you ether need to beat the shit out of him with someone like Ursa, or get some Pure Damage from someone like Tinker or Timber Saw. Gonna be a lot of pub stomping tonight. Huskar is going to be a great pocket pick in pro games.

Yeah if Icefrog lets him into CM...
 
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