Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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LOL swap request trolls incoming
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http://en.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1fp7pg/new_cost_to_swap_heros_cost_100_gold_even_if_you/
 
Bat's Pub Winrate went from 48% to 42%. Welcome to Brood Mother Tier Bat.

Also, Broodmother's Winrate actually fell. More Spiders = More Feed. Just a 1% dip though, so it could just be due to people picking buffed heroes.

Troll dropped a huge amount too, 55% to 46%.

CM actually up 3%, though the mana aura buff was pretty damn good.
 
Welp no clue what's going on with the d2ware site and servers. Also the wording on the faq says I'm going to be suspended so oops?

Never run into something like that before.
 
Huskar + Dom Helm + AC = fucking ridiculous.

My only real loss of the night was basically from an AC Huskar. We were 4v5 because of an early abandon, but that AC was doing work.

edit: anyone else watching Anuxi's stream? always so fascinating.
 
What's new on huskar? The magic resist buff instead of dmg / stack?

Kreunt said:
yeah i just had a crappy start
with him and still went 23-7.

i usually build momlet into MKB.
tempted to try aghs/refresher, SB gonna be the new magnus.
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Refresher?

Refresh the 10sec cd ulti?
 
Drkirby said:
Bat's Pub Winrate went from 48% to 42%. Welcome to Brood Mother Tier Bat.

Also, Broodmother's Winrate actually fell. More Spiders = More Feed. Just a 1% dip though, so it could just be due to people picking buffed heroes.

Troll dropped a huge amount too, 55% to 46%.

CM actually up 3%, though the mana aura buff was pretty damn good.
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You can't really check that quickly, need a much bigger sample.

Phantasmal on Dota Metrics does a lot of good stuff on winrate changes and analysis.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Huskar + Dom Helm + AC = fucking ridiculous.

My only real loss of the night was basically from an AC Huskar. We were 4v5 because of an early abandon, but that AC was doing work.

edit: anyone else watching Anuxi's stream? always so fascinating.
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Amazing work. Always wondered how the finer details of 3D modelling work and this is looking really good.

Also, haven't yet played on the new patch, hoping not to face a good Huskar. Although I sense his win rates and pick rates will go through the roof. Expect to see lots of solo mid Huskars feeding; as if they didn't already.
 
Nirvana said:
Amazing work. Always wondered how the finer details of 3D modelling work and this is looking really good.

Also, haven't yet played on the new patch, hoping not to face a good Huskar. Although I sense his win rates and pick rates will go through the roof. Expect to see lots of solo mid Huskars feeding; as if they didn't already.
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I think he'll be picked a lot and will lose a lot. He gets annihilated by right-clickers with armor. I lost to 1 Huskar, but beat 2 others tonight. I crushed one with Lycan. The early-game crit + armor reduction from medallion kept him in the hurt locker.

If you see one, pick a hero that wants to get maybe fairly fast crit and definitely armor/hp to mitigate his damage. TBH, I was giving him the business in the match I lost (Luna), but the person who abandoned (Mirana) was the semi-carry and we just didn't have the right-click dps without them. My short list of appropriate carries for the job, in no particular order:

Sven
Alchie
Doom
Luna
Clinkz
Ursa
Lycanthorpe
Phantom Assassin
Death Prophet
Necrolyte

Maybe even Drow, Sniper or Viper if they can avoid being the leap target. Drow in particular because of her high native armor and damage output.

Sigismundo said:
The helmet and head are seperate. It's entirely possible someone could make a new head for Luna.
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Weird. Is that why Luna's head was missing in my game today? All I could see was an empty helmet.
 
Has anyone else come up against these ridiculous pushing strats yet? You join a game and the opposing team starts wiping out the creep wave instantly, then goes behind your tower, pulls the creep wave, kills that as well and mid circles in and they push down your safe lane tower instantly? Happened to me in two games recently and they just make it impossible to lane.

Unless you are playing a trilane or something it means you get no CS no matter what, because they just continue pulling the wave into the jungle and taking all of the CS from that lane and you can't respond early enough to stop that initial push if you aren't prepared for it. Also if it's a solo queue, you never have any vision unless you buy wards yourself, so they can just gank you over and over in lane.

It's soul destroying.
 
Nirvana said:
Has anyone else come up against these ridiculous pushing strats yet? You join a game and the opposing team starts wiping out the creep wave instantly, then goes behind your tower, pulls the creep wave, kills that as well and mid circles in and they push down your safe lane tower instantly? Happened to me in two games recently and they just make it impossible to lane.

Unless you are playing a trilane or something it means you get no CS no matter what, because they just continue pulling the wave into the jungle and taking all of the CS from that lane and you can't respond early enough to stop that initial push if you aren't prepared for it. Also if it's a solo queue, you never have any vision unless you buy wards yourself, so they can just gank you over and over in lane.

It's soul destroying.
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nvm. Thought you were talking about being on a hardlane yourself
 
Nirvana said:
Has anyone else come up against these ridiculous pushing strats yet? You join a game and the opposing team starts wiping out the creep wave instantly, then goes behind your tower, pulls the creep wave, kills that as well and mid circles in and they push down your safe lane tower instantly? Happened to me in two games recently and they just make it impossible to lane.

Unless you are playing a trilane or something it means you get no CS no matter what, because they just continue pulling the wave into the jungle and taking all of the CS from that lane and you can't respond early enough to stop that initial push if you aren't prepared for it. Also if it's a solo queue, you never have any vision unless you buy wards yourself, so they can just gank you over and over in lane.

It's soul destroying.
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Maybe ellen pudge can upload this doozy to show you how it's really done
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47802069&postcount=2237
 
I think Shadow Shaman is getting up there with my favorite characters. I am having a lot of fun with him. it also further confirms my love for the support role.
 
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