Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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What dreams said.

And.

You don't level up Essence Aura as OD unless you're playing some kind of support OD which is downright weird.

EDIT: I prefer to not max Essence Aura immediately because it makes me useless for 8-9 levels.
 
What are you talking about, you max Essence Aura second, and normally want 2 point in it before even getting Orb. Without it, Arcane Orb is junk.
 
Haly said:
What dreams said.

And.

You don't level up Essence Aura as OD unless you're playing some kind of support OD which is downright weird.
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Wait what?! I thought you max Imprisonment, then max Essence Aura doing Orb last. Have I been doing OD wrong all this time?! I use Aura to keep my mana up for spamming Imprisonment and later Orb.
 
You're not doing anything else with your mana.

I prefer 1-3-1.

Okay, I'm not saying you don't level up Essence Aura at all, but you're not maxing it immediately.
 
Haly said:
You're not doing anything else with your mana.

I prefer 1-3-1.

Okay, I'm not saying you don't level up Essence Aura at all, but you're not maxing it
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But with more points in Aura, you can drain your lane opponent's Int for great harass and farming though...
 
I find it very difficult to run out of mana as OD even while spamming Imprison at every possible opportunity (which is not always a good idea). Once you get a Bottle the mana is trivial.

And if you're in a dual lane for whatever reasons, sometimes you need to clash. The extra damage from Arcane Orb can mean the difference between a kill and an escaped gank.

Extra mana usually won't.
 
Haly said:
What dreams said.

And.

You don't level up Essence Aura as OD unless you're playing some kind of support OD which is downright weird.
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1. Astral Imprisonment
2. Essence Aura
3. Astral Imprisonment
4. Essence Aura
5. Astral Imprisonment
6. Sanity's Eclipse
7. Astral Imprisionment
8. Arcane Orb
9. Essence Aura
10. Arcane Orb
11. Sanity's Eclipse
12. Arcane Orb
13. Arcane Orb
14. Essence Aura
15. Stats
16. Sanity's Eclipse


Also: Noone can go 1v1 with with Destroyer at mid, unless ganked.
 
Radec said:
Also: Noone can go 1v1 with with Destroyer at mid, unless ganked.
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Which is a thing people do.

When your primary means of survival as a hard Int carry is down, what do you do?
 
Radec said:
1. Astral Imprisonment
2. Essence Aura
3. Astral Imprisonment
4. Essence Aura
5. Astral Imprisonment
6. Sanity's Eclipse
7. Astral Imprisionment
8. Arcane Orb
9. Essence Aura
10. Arcane Orb
11. Sanity's Eclipse
12. Arcane Orb
13. Arcane Orb
14. Essence Aura
15. Stats
16. Sanity's Eclipse
.
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there is not one way to build OD. (though this is how I build OD, sometimes with an earlier point in Orb depending on if we're trying to get some earlier kills)
 
Is 2 points some sort of break off point where you can spam arcane orb before you run out of mana?

My od game sucks, I admit it. I think he's a terrible hero and I don't think I've ever seen one hard carry* in pubs let alone competitive games. I'd rather do stats silencer and carry, or enchantress. I can't stand his paper armor and low health/range.


*Hard carry as in be the reason that his team won, like a PL/AM/FV or even skeleton king/lycan/lone druid who can farm up and carry the team. All the games I've seen an OD win is because he was along for the ride. He's an odd hero, he needs items to do well but by the time he gets those items the other team has bkb to counter him.
 
Schweinehund said:
Is 2 points some sort of break off point where you can spam arcane orb before you run out of mana?

My od game sucks, I admit it. I think he's a terrible hero and I don't think I've ever seen one hard carry in pubs let alone competitive games. I'd rather do stats silencer and carry, or enchantress. I can't stand his paper armor and low health/range.
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No, you need level 4 to gain effectively "free" Orbs.

People just go 0-3-2 because they want Imprisonment first and think Orb is useless if it can't be spammed (it's not, inefficient, yes, but it's not useless).
 
Haly said:
No, you need level 4 to gain effectively "free" Orbs.

People just go 0-3-2 because they want Imprisonment first and think Orb is useless if it can't be spammed (it's not, inefficient, yes, but it's not useless).
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+1

I really, really like getting a point early in Q, as it can be the difference between getting early kills and not.

http://dotabuff.com/heroes/outworld-destroyer/skills

lots of popular ways to build OD.

1-1-3-1 is my "get kills" opening.

0-3-2-1 is my "fuck your mana, bitch" opening.

with 3 points in the passive, Q is spammable enough to get a kill if the team is focusing someone, and is my preferred build if I'm side laning with a support that can disable.
 
Wonder whats taking the patch so long. Maybe the rumor that tonight the dedicated Servers are coming out is true.

For Arcane Orb, I think you should only grab it if you plan to do a quick gank, but OD really needs to just sit and farm mid for a solid 10-15 minutes to get his levels and items up, his window of effectiveness is a bit small.
 
I just remember our game a few days ago where our Mag keep getting stunned by Wisp's Tether when he blinks in for the RP.

He blinks in on the perfect moment where 4-5 heroes should be vacummed only to get stunned by tether, then disabled to death after.

Happened like 3-4 times on clashes. Lost the game because of that. :/
 
Drkirby said:
Wonder whats taking the patch so long. Maybe the rumor that tonight the dedicated Servers are coming out is true.

For Arcane Orb, I think you should only grab it if you plan to do a quick gank, but OD really needs to just sit and farm mid for a solid 10-15 minutes to get his levels and items up, his window of effectiveness is a bit small.
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Yeah my download is really slow.

I've actually been busy with finals week at Uni, so I have NO IDEA what this is even for. Is there any rumors as to what it might be?

I guess I'll know sooner than later when it finishes lol
 
la_briola said:
WHY CAN I NOT OPEN ALL THOSE CHESTS?
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Typical valve. You can buy the keys though . . .

Awww the tusk snack basket looked so good with the nemo-orange
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lo-and behold - pink
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Sighh 99cents down the drain
 
So, I think I may try to trade to get one of those compendiums. How does it work? The compendium and the courier are tradeable as one item, or they can be gotten separately?

I could trade in my Bertha batskater mount if anyone is interested.
 
wakajawaka said:
So, I think I may try to trade to get one of those compendiums. How does it work? The compendium and the courier are tradeable as one item, or they can be gotten separately?

I could trade in my Bertha batskater mount if anyone is interested.
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If you get the compendium and you use it, the item goes away and gets added to your dota profile page and you get the courier and the battle boost. You can't trade the book after you activate it.
 
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