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[CarbonatedFalcon]

wow that dreamhack theater is nice, too bad they might only play one game in it

Yeah seems like kind of a waste that they moved and might only be there for one game. Really should have been a Bo5 for the grand finals.

It's all filled up though, which just proves that Dota shouldn't have been shunted to the pitiful little area it was for the rest of the tournament. But sponsors gonna sponsor I suppose.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Yeah seems like kind of a waste that they moved and might only be there for one game. Really should have been a Bo5 for the grand finals.

It's all filled up though, which just proves that Dota shouldn't have been shunted to the pitiful little area it was for the rest of the tournament. But sponsors gonna sponsor I suppose.

There are a bunch of finals to run. Can't just be dota.

SOme of the finals of dreamhack will be on tv so they have a schedule. As you know, games can go on for a long time.

 

[dk_]

I'm all for Allliance, but I wish DOTA 2 gets another game to get some screen time.

 

[woober]

Gyro, Lifestealer again... boo.

 

[GordonHalfman]

Speaking of math geekery:

http://www.hazelist.com/tools/dota_2_calculator/?mode=hero_calculation

I don't know if it's all that useful in practice, I thing item buying decisions are mostly seat of pants judgements about the specific situation rather than number crunching, but it's quite neat anyway.

 

[Aaron]

Just played another game, this time against Riki. Early game he was easy mark. Late game I bought a gem, and got him more than he got me. Still think Juggernaut or Lifestealer would be a better melee hero choice.

 

[shira]

Yeah seems like kind of a waste that they moved and might only be there for one game. Really should have been a Bo5 for the grand finals.

It's all filled up though, which just proves that Dota shouldn't have been shunted to the pitiful little area it was for the rest of the tournament. But sponsors gonna sponsor I suppose.

http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs13/esport/

Dota has the highest prize purse.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I think this is GG already.

 

[KingKong]

Gyro, Lifestealer again... boo.

if they do that TI3 all-star match they should have random or do least played or something

 

[Artanisix]

I'm worried about Quantic's picks. They're extremely defensive-oriented, don't know how they're going to take teamfights.

 

[abunai]

Is the sound really awful for anyone else? Sounds like they're in a windy tunnel.

 

[Artanisix]

On the other hand... Offlane Lich is oldschool as hell and living armor + dark ritual spam = one sad safe lane. I like it.

edit: THIS LICH IS CRUSHING

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Is the sound really awful for anyone else? Sounds like they're in a windy tunnel.

We can hear them through the speakers at the venue it seems.

 

[Gully State]

if they do that TI3 all-star match they should have random or do least played or something

ATOD

 

[Aaron]

Bah. Want to hear the game sounds.

 

[Balehead]

Ayesee praised Alliance's draft way too much for it to actually work too well.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Weaver pick was pretty great. Only stuns Alliance has are Homing Missile (lol) and Mana Leak (also lol). And Static Storm is the sole silence with the only hero that would possibly want an Orchid being Naix, which is far from ideal. Time Lapse is a match for Glimpse as well, so break even there at best.

He's just going to run rampant, especially with the double armors allowing big dives.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

ATOD

I think the greatest tournament I ever watched was Cyborgmatt's ATOD WTF-mode tournament.

The strategy of picks and counter picks was awesome to watch, and then you get surprises like a team taking a chance that Sniper's shrapnel doesn't stack. It turned out it did, and they basically instantly lost as piles shrapnel just melted buildings.

 

[KingKong]

dat weaver <3

 

[Dahbomb]

LOL Quantic banned every hero that Bulldog plays (DS, NP, Bear, Clock etc).

 

[Aaron]

Still early in the game, and weaver is basically unkillable.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

LOL Quantic banned every hero that Bulldog plays (DS, NP, Bear, Clock etc).

Well he plays the Naix if forced to (as in this game), but always jungles him.

 

[ksan]

what a beautiful draft from goblak
i dont think many people would consider running a single core line up with a weaver

 

[Artanisix]

what a beautiful draft from goblak
i dont think many people would consider running a single core line up with a weaver

Yeah this is A+ genius draft, I'm so impressed.

 

[KingKong]

what is that, 23-1-3?

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I think this is GG already.

Quantic proving me right

Spoiler

liiiiiiiich

 

[Artanisix]

PENTAKILL

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Don't draft a low cool-down disable, get rolled.

Is anyone really surprised? If you can't lock down a Weaver with disables, he will faceroll your team. Only thing I'm shocked about is that a collection of talent of Alliance's level would make the elementary-level mistake of forgetting you need reliable disables.

 

[JakkuFurosu]

wow


thats all there is to say about that match.....just wow

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

What a brilliant game. Punished hard due to no lockdown for the Weaver.

And the Lich + Treant is cute. Double armors, and the ult synergy.

 

[Dahbomb]

Well he plays the Naix if forced to (as in this game), but always jungles him.

He was clearly out of his comfort zone here which was the point of the draft. As was drafting Weaver when they had low CCs while getting double armor against their physical damage dealers like TA, Gyro, LS etc.

Out drafted completely.

 

[ubercheez]

Quantic is way too good with Treant Protector.

 

[shira]

Quantic is way too good with Treant Protector.

OD and Treeant banned first phase. [GG]

 

[rhophiehalul78]

someone here said Alliance will never be outdrafted.

 

[Artanisix]

Don't draft a low cool-down disable, get rolled.

Is anyone really surprised? If you can't lock down a Weaver with disables, he will faceroll your team. Only thing I'm shocked about is that a collection of talent of Alliance's level would make the elementary-level mistake of forgetting you need reliable disables.

Well that's the beauty of drafting. Weaver got picked up fourth, Quantic baited the Lifestealer + Gyro combo which Alliance LOVE and coincidentally are both pretty terrible against Weaver, and they picked up a Treant + Lich which gave Weaver near-immunity to all damage.

 

[Conceptor]

shira-bot who is going to win game 3?

 

[ksan]

OD and Treant banned first phase. [GG]

Yep, this is gonna happen g3.
Why?
Because in g2 alliance was second pick, which forced them to ban out wisp instead of treant.

 

[Brawndo Addict]

There was a moment where Treant got his ult off on 2 or 3 in the Dire jungle and poor Lich's ultimate had only like 8 seconds on CD. So close...

 

[shira]

shira-bot who is going to win game 3?

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

someone here said Alliance will never be outdrafted.

Well they should never be outdrafted if they pick a Bulldog hero first (which they do most of the time), especially when bans are being targeted against him so early. They were greedy this game by going Gyro + Lifestealer first. What Alliance should have done was pick up Dark Seer in the first two (with LD and Furion already out).

And I don't think Nyx was even touched in that draft, but I don't think Alliance really plays it.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

 

[Artanisix]

One thing I like about Quantic is that they pick reaaally strong lane heroes and just snowball from there. OD, Lich, Treant, Batrider... These heroes have enormous laning strength.

 

[The Technomancer]

Man, watching Tree get picked in pro play never gets old

Well, not yet at least

 

[Drkirby]

So Alliance is going for a greedy global strat. Now, is Quantic baiting it out, or Alliance going for some meta fake out.

 

[KingKong]

why did they ban Sven?

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

why did they ban Sven?

One of the best combos with Wisp.

 

[Gully State]

Whoa, Tree + Lich in a pro match? I went up against that combo two days ago in mm as BH and that armor combo was brutal (jinada did like no damage)...

 

[Drkirby]

I want to see Alliance pick Bristle Back

I will also assume the cheering is over Alliance picking Alchemist and not a ward being killed in LoL.

 

[Artanisix]

I want to see Alliance pick Bristle Back

I will also assume the cheering is over Alliance picking Alchemist and not a ward being killed in LoL.

The weird thing is I was just thinking, I'd like to see Quantic pick up BB.

 

[Drkirby]

Chen? I'm not feeling Alliance's team.