Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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After struggling for many many matches, I have found a hero I can play well against medium AI! Luna is my friend now. Just as a question, is learning how to play the game against bots a bad idea?
 
-tetsuo- said:
After struggling for many many matches, I have found a hero I can play well against medium AI! Luna is my friend now. Just as a question, is learning how to play the game against bots a bad idea?
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It isn't if you are using guides to help you under stand the game. Playing just to win can be accomplish against players, but playing to understand fundamentals should be the goal when going against bots.
 
Fucking hell there is nothing worse than losing to Riki because your teammates are too stubborn to accept that MAYBE IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SOLOCHARGE INTO THE ENEMY JUNGLE.

God, I even bought an early gem, but no better feed Riki and Viper with Shadowblade.
 
-tetsuo- said:
After struggling for many many matches, I have found a hero I can play well against medium AI! Luna is my friend now. Just as a question, is learning how to play the game against bots a bad idea?
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It's not great. Its good for practising mechanical stuff, like last hitting and learning how skills work, how to combo your skills and such. I guess it might be good for things like bkb timing in teamfights. It's bad for things like general game sense and map awareness since the bots are so predictable. When playing carry for example you can farm the jungle for 20 mins straight without being ganked. It's also just kind of artificial because the bots cheat so much.

This applies to co-op bot games. Playing with bots on your team is bad because you'll frequently be at serious risk of shitting yourself with fury. It might be good for testing if some carry farming strat or item build is good enough to win a game 1 vs 5 as your allies blunder around the map in a kind of brownian motion.
 
We have been playing a lot of matches co-op against bots. I guess we should just test the waters against some people tonight. There are 3 of us so we are probably going to get 2 folks really mad for feeding lol
 
It was brought to my attention that the casters in the GB game pronounced my nick, "halyhaly", as "haleyhaley".

This is wrong.

It's pronounced "hal-ee", for future reference.
 
traveler said:
Wasn't the Giantbomb tourney a newbie thing? Am I getting this mixed up with something else?
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They have multiple "brackets", and we played against a "high" team.

Clearly, their idea of a "high" bracket was not our idea of a "high" bracket.
 
Thanks Chair for the carry, even Giantbombs best Blackmoore could not handle you :U
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G-Unit said:
geez, thanks for counting with me milk, no wonder you didn't address me even if I asked about 3 times when were the game. If you just wanted to play with close friends that's fine, but you should have just said it. I'm dissapointment son.

Good luck anyway.
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Haly said:
It was brought to my attention that the casters in the GB game pronounced my nick, "halyhaly", as "haleyhaley".

This is wrong.

It's pronounced "hal-ee", for future reference.
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Wait, haly is really pronounced hal-ee (like Wall-E)? Everyone has been using haley since the HoN days.
 
never thought it was haley. thats spelt hailey

yall bad at english. maybe you are actually the russians in solo queue

ha-ly

its how its spelt yo
 
So, I had a game yesterday where we were defending our mid barracks when our complete team disconnected. They got both mid and bot barracks and both ancient towers. We got back just in time to save our ancient and still won.

Is this something that could normally happen or was there something else going on? Just seemed really strange that a complete team disconnected during a teamfight.

Match ID was 225733097 (disconnects are at about 54:30), if anyone is interested.
 
It's always a good game when you make a Drow RQ. Went top lane Radiant-side with a Tusk as Undying against a Drow and Lion. Was having a pretty shit time early laning, but they just kept pushing their lane to our tier 1 tower. Tusk popped Ice Shards right behind Drow, I dropped Tombstone right in front of Drow, pinned her between both under tower and the zombies did all the work. Got a firstblood and two kills.

Didn't make her RQ on that but it turned the game around pretty quick.
 
Nymerio said:
So, I had a game yesterday where we were defending our mid barracks when our complete team disconnected. They got both mid and bot barracks and both ancient towers. We got back just in time to save our ancient and still won.

Is this something that could normally happen or was there something else going on? Just seemed really strange that a complete team disconnected during a teamfight.

Match ID was 225733097 (disconnects are at about 54:30), if anyone is interested.
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Are you insinuating that the other team disconnected you?
 
:lol

Finally got around to watching the GAF Giantbomb games. The commentators were being quite generous to TE. That was rough. I've done the 5 man mid-push in a pub before. The opposing mid player's reaction is always funny. Usually results in a rage quit. Can't wait to see more #YOLOSUMMER.
 
-tetsuo- said:
After struggling for many many matches, I have found a hero I can play well against medium AI! Luna is my friend now. Just as a question, is learning how to play the game against bots a bad idea?
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Not at all and I think if you understand the flow of the game from playing a bot match, you've gotten a hell of a lot more information than those who just jump straight into a matchmaking game. Understand the flow of a match from a bot game, but realize that people in a real match are going to be doing their own thing when it comes to that flow. Laning phase -> Roaming/Ganking phase -> Pushing phase. You can also practice the mechanics of a hero which is always useful. I really think it's bad advice to tell people to just jump into a matchmaking game without playing a few bot games. People will tell you it's a bad idea because you'll form bad habits due to the bots being predictable and will never act like a real human, but I don't think that's the point of playing with bots. It's to become more comfortable with what you're doing. I would never play someone like Invoker without first playing a bot game. To submit your team to something you're not familiar with is being inconsiderate to your teammates and will most likely be frustrating/not fun. I played with bots until I felt comfortable with flow/mechanics and decided to jump into matchmaking and ended up winning 12/15 of my first matchmaking games (granted I played with a few friends who had some experience). I also suggest to play with at least one friend, a group full of strangers I find is never as fun in such a team-based game. I say all of this because it can really be a negative first impression when you just start matchmaking (w/o playing with bots) and get completely stomped and you'll feel like you never want to play again. You want to avoid that.
 
I'm too used to teaming up with 3-4 friends that solo queueing or teaming up with 1 other person is horrendous.

A game full of people who can't speak english, pick a load of carries, no supports, no support items, no courier and grouping up. So infuriating.
 
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