Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]
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Shorty11857
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The rules of solo queue
Pick Carry, whole team is carry
Pick Support, not a carry on the team
shira
Member
Hmmmm no betting links. . . I smell fix
Captain Fish
Member
Bummer dota last night. :\
Feels bad to win your lane and still not be able to win.
Feels bad to win your lane and still not be able to win.
Don't worry, it means you're about to begin an awesome win streak.
Anuxinamoon
Shaper Divine
This LGDx2 game =O
still on the 2kills per minute at 18 minutes
Shorty11857
Member
QOP is such a fun hero to play, just played her as support to a Luna in lane then went around getting kills, only finished 10 GPM below Luna in the end
Ok Dota GAF, question time!
I was Doom Bringer, solo top Radiant against Rubick and Sven.
We had a Furion jungling.
I asked him if we could switch lanes, because he being a ranged hero and with his treants he could actually do something in the lane and not just leech XP and barely get some devours off. He basically told me to fuck off, because he was farming jungle and he couldn't care less what is happening on my lane. I even said that giving Sven free farm from the beginning probably isn't a good idea but he just ignored me.
We still won the game in the end, because most of the enemy team played pretty horrible, but still, was I actually in the right to demand that we switch positions? I go jungle and farm with Doom, while he can farm the toplane.
What say you GAF? Was my suggestion ok?
I was Doom Bringer, solo top Radiant against Rubick and Sven.
We had a Furion jungling.
I asked him if we could switch lanes, because he being a ranged hero and with his treants he could actually do something in the lane and not just leech XP and barely get some devours off. He basically told me to fuck off, because he was farming jungle and he couldn't care less what is happening on my lane. I even said that giving Sven free farm from the beginning probably isn't a good idea but he just ignored me.
We still won the game in the end, because most of the enemy team played pretty horrible, but still, was I actually in the right to demand that we switch positions? I go jungle and farm with Doom, while he can farm the toplane.
What say you GAF? Was my suggestion ok?
Your suggestion was fine, but I can understand the NP's reaction.
I don't know how early he called that he was jungling and if there we're other heroes to be picked for solo offlaning. IMO if someone picks up an NP for jungling it would be best to have a capable offlaner (which Doom isn't in my opinion) like DS, LD, BH, WR or along those lines. (This is coming from an NP player btw ;-)
Problem was that we picked almost at the same time, at least that's what it felt like to me. Normally, I wouldn't pick Doom to offlane.
JakkuFurosu
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482664
It doesnt get bumped alot but when it does usually people get what they looking for if its reasonable.
Dictator93
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The thing is they are more skillshot spammy. You are shooting off stuff that requires skillshots more often but at no cost really with no conseuqnece (mana, cooldown time) unless you miss an ult or something (rare given how instantaneous most of them are).
Just finished a game with Force Staff Drow.
At first I died a couple of times to Veno(thought he was noob and would run away from me),but then i got the force staff,and all problems solved!
Even though it's not a damage item it's insane on drow, i went 16-4-? and dominated even tho my team made a lot of positioning mistakes.
I recommend everyone to try.
Link to the match
At first I died a couple of times to Veno(thought he was noob and would run away from me),but then i got the force staff,and all problems solved!
Even though it's not a damage item it's insane on drow, i went 16-4-? and dominated even tho my team made a lot of positioning mistakes.
I recommend everyone to try.
Link to the match
Whoops, I did a brief search, somehow missed this. My bad.
Got my Brooch just now anyway, but will use the proper thread in the future.
It costs you damage and puts you back
Everything is relative. You're just making half stated representations forgetting that your opponent has the same rules. League is just designed with that paradigm, but it doesn't mean it doesn't cost you anything because your opponent has the same functionality. So if you miss and he hits, that's the consequence. Perhaps it didn't have huge mana or cooldown consequences, but in respect to the design paradigm, you're now behind because your opponent can do the exact same thing back to you with the same consequences.
If your argument is that skillshots are more rewarding and punishing in doto, then it's certainly true for some of them (purge hook), but there are still spammy or less significant skillshots (dk flame), relative to Dota.
SneakyStephan
Banned
For some reason I've had textures on medium and the renderquality bar not maxed all this time.
I thought dota2 looked nice (like a painting almost, but kind of soft and the textures weren't good on the chars)
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Saw a screenshot in the screenshot thread that looked way crisper and way nicer than what i've been playing.
The game has frigging incredible graphics, 500 hours in I figure that out.
I thought dota2 looked nice (like a painting almost, but kind of soft and the textures weren't good on the chars)
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Saw a screenshot in the screenshot thread that looked way crisper and way nicer than what i've been playing.
The game has frigging incredible graphics, 500 hours in I figure that out.
I play with everything on low D=
thats cool - im not trying to convince you to play lol at all
you've already invested a lot more into dota and your experiences reflect that
im happy youve found your place in moba world
rhophiehalul78
Member
err... beaten
Boken so understanding
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
People make excuses. 200-300 is pretty high though. 100-200 normal.
200-300ms is all ready to high. 50ms is for me normal or around 100/150 at least. Beyond that it feels like every action you take is even slower or later and it doesn't work well.
Everything over 100 is just shit to play. 50 is good enough, 80 is ok, and more than 100 gets annoying real quick.
close to the edge
Member
It depends on what you're used to, if you have sub-100 ping all the time to Europe like me, it's hard to get used to US East with 220 ping (which shouldn't really be the case, I used to have ~120 ping to US East which was fine). If you play on 100+ ping all the time, it'll be weird playing on anything different as well for a while. The old N9/aL team from Australia played at some LANs in Europe and they had to get used to the low ping as well. (there were no Australian servers back then)
I hope you never try to lasthit lol
Schweinehund
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yeah I can't get back into lol because of how static the laning phase is. Everything feels extremely safe with cheap & unlimited wards + the map is essentially mirrored, so there is no safe or hard lane. Playing a support is even more frustrating because you can't deny and with extremely easy last hitting is hard to harass the enemy, or pull camps. Dota is fun for me because its more free flowing.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
We went and played some IHs against Aus players on 400 ping, found we were pretty well adjusted to it after about 5 minutes.
In a less extreme example, going from USE 20-70 ping to USW 100-150 ping is hardly noticeable for me, you adjust to quickly it hardly makes a difference.
EDIT: Either way though my point was that ping had nothing to do with them losing that first game.
Technosteve
Banned
Is team scumbag going to play more giantbomb teams?
Next week. Dunno the exact date yet, I'll let you know.
A reasonable and well put statement. Echoes my thoughts exactly.
Technosteve
Banned
i want to see treeman darkseer kotl lane
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
My ping is always around 130-160 ms. I guess I'm too used to it, but I don't notice any particular lagged reactions.
when i was in the us, i played 30~50 ping games and it felt like heaven, now back in peru my reality is 120~190 ping which i find playable but well remembering those low pings games makes me curse my ISP and to some extent valve for not caring about a proper south american server.
RaGMasTeR90
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My Eu Ping is always 20-30 ms. Cant even imagine playing with a ping 100+
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