Likewise, I really hope it drops right after the major.
I have been looking forward to it for so long.
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Likewise, I really hope it drops right after the major.
I have been looking forward to it for so long.
That's not how it plays out. A good Shackle and you already won the team fight, the rest of her team just does it for her, and she gets that Aghs one way or another.
Her skill set already makes her a threat. Even an itemless Focus Fire level 1 is still pretty significant. She doesn't need to be the best flash farmer, but she does have decent flash farm capability, especially if you know how to powershot through multiple camps to stack and farm then. She is always a threat even with just one item, whether that is Blink, Aghs, or something else entirely.
shira
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Kelly is leaving Alliance so there is a small chance that Loda AND her might take higher level positions in GGA/Twitch.
- higher pay/less hours
- more time to take care of the kids
- NiP players are available (Era)
Good shackles turn the tide of battle just like a good impale or storm bolt or any other AoE disables, that's a weak argument imho.
This might just be a semantics discussion by in the early stages of the game I don't consider her a threat only annoying. Huskar, Ursa, Undying, Drow, etc are threats, she? not so much. However as the game moves forward and she gets some farm she becomes a real danger.
Focus Fire level 1 does ~50 damage per attack with Nulls and Phase. It's decent and might kill someone but it's not a big threat since in most cases you can just walk away or fog her, hence it's just annoying.
Powershot is also hardly a good farming skill. You can't clear 4-stacks with it, well you can but it takes forever, and her auto-attacks are super slow.
Shuggananas
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I dislike kelly. Isn't that her illegitimate child out of wedlock rofl. Loda's been shit for awhile since the tb nerfs other carries adapted, he didn't. Bulldogs been shit since offlane changed from farming heroes to team fight control stunners.
Kelly just seems so AWFUL to me, i'm sure i'd hate her less if i thought she was hot though
Shuggananas
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Mmmh.
She's an awful person too. What she did while she was on the starcraft scene or casting dota (see tobi's story)
that shit with moonglade was kind of fucked but in fairness there really is no "good" time for a breakup.
sleverfunk
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Is there something wrong with that pic? her neck?
wtf
Shackleshot is a longer disable than most in the game short of stuff like RP. A 1.5 second stun on 2 heroes with only a value point in the skill? On level 4 that's a 3.75 second stun. This is all on a short cool down.
Sure, if all she does is use level 1 Focus Fire on you, it's whenever. But any Windrunner with half a brain will never do that. Most of the time they will set up a Shackle today. This can be devastating especially if she was already able to put some damage on you before this.
Also Drow is still pretty bad right now.
sleverfunk
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Monochromaticx
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VG will be playing with a secret stand in!
SS was only 51% WR in pro games too
the issue with wr is that there's no hero you can put mid that just shits on her, but rather she shits on a lot of popular mids. She's like this super safe midlaner that doesnt really naturally lose her lane while scaling well
so does sf, qop and ta, i dont know why people are picking on her like she's some op hero. yeah it's annoying getting shackled for almost 4s just watching you die, but a lot of things in dota are annoying, you just have to deal with it.
Yes, lots of heroes need balance changes.
Bs was also basically unpicked in comp. He was nerfed because it was an annoying piece of shit to play against in higher level pubs since he went around with +40 damage in laning phase and infinite regen BrokeBack
qop doesn't scale like wr, ta, and sf do. SF get's shit on in lane by almost everything except like alchemist. TA i also agree with but TA is more gankable.
gone are the days of lane control mids actually trying to dominate the other mid in a 1v1 situation, denying creeps to get the lvl 6 advantage for their gank or kill on the other mid. Back when playing mid actually required more skill than pushing out a wave and stacking an ancient or camp when u go for rune. Mid is just another RR role just with lower level wave clears than your RR safelaner while both of them eat up space in pubs and flame each other for leaving one of the 2 without comeback farm. Now 2 mids can just be content to trade farm because why risk dying for a kill when they just clear a stack anyways.
WR isn't an annoying piece of shit to play against?
of course she is. But body pillows will go ignored if she gets nerfed.
Hmm true, it seems like her only vociferous defenders here have WR avatars. Sad that a game can have this effect on people imho.
SF get level 3, razes twice and kills the creep wave, goes to the jungle and clear a massive stack with ease, comes back to lane with almost 2 levels over the opponent.
"Shit on lane"
I don't have a WR avatar, although Red is also a ginger, but I don't think she is the monster some people are claiming her to be. She could use a nerf though.
NormalFish
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Shuggananas
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yeah fuck SF
One thing I love about frankfrut is how fast paced it is, there's no bullshit 1 hour breaks between games or even series, everything is really going smoothly imo.
Very few pauses too
One thing I love about frankfrut is how fast paced it is, there's no bullshit 1 hour breaks between games or even series, everything is really going smoothly imo.
Very few pauses too
Heavy's Sandvich
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wait, we just accept Tobi's story like it's correct?
WR isn't an annoying piece of shit to play against?
No because she require quite a bit of time (farm/farming speed) to became a significant annoyance. In higher paced games, she's basically useless earlier on whereas BS went around with just treads and 200 damage 600 ms. She's annoying in lane that i can give you, but as soon as you five man she is a shackle and little else.
Imp the Dimp
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Balance talk in this thread is like reading random 2k redditors complaining about heroes they got recently stomped against and are still salty about.
Also just listing the strengths of a hero can make virtually anything sound OP. WR clearly has weaknesses. I expect her to get nerfed but I hope it's super slight. Bloodseeker was overnerfed.
Also just listing the strengths of a hero can make virtually anything sound OP. WR clearly has weaknesses. I expect her to get nerfed but I hope it's super slight. Bloodseeker was overnerfed.
NormalFish
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Tobi is a pillar of the community please no disrespect.
They would also be horribly flamed, so I empathize.
Shuggananas
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Vade
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Being a ginger is not a weakness, Shadow friend does not get a soul when he kills Windrunner.
Heavy's Sandvich
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of what exactly?
"This video is not available. Sorry about that."
SF actually has a line about gingers having souls when he kills WR.
Shuggananas
Banned
She was a co-caster/co-commentator, spent all game texting and doing nothing else.
edit : weird, I can access the video.
Title is "SMM [R16] Mineski vs Deity [1 of 3]" if you want to search it yourself
SilentRacoon
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This Axe comic is lame and the immortal is just as bad, good thing they had 5 months worth of polishing....
They turned Axe into The Nathan Filion Character
Wonderboy91
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I'll never understand why people keep picking DK.
Heavy's Sandvich
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ok mate
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