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[call_kotaku]

Something about the new Rosh pit looks so much less...intimidating.

Less like some sort of ominous cave a big monster would live in, but more like Roshan moved in first and took the room with the best view. It just cries out for some sort of extra architectural flourish besides the lavafall.

 

[Jex]

Blademail on 4 heroes, keep one blademail always activated, easy kill.

Or if the timing of Zeus ults is predictable, use only one blademail.

Bloodseeker's spell is double edged: +40% damage dealt and received.

Or just have a Mask of Maddness Blademail Abadon on everyteam.

 

[Wok]

Heroes with high winrates are even higher now.

Lowest winrates:

I don't know what happened to Enchantress since she was slightly buffed.

Bounty Hunter suffered from a bug of Shuriken.

Tinker? Well, we know what happened to Tinker.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I wonder what made Medusa's and Spectre's winrate skyrocket like this? I enjoy playing Medusa anyways, so I'll likely find out today.

edit: Actually, it's probably the meta game shifting to late game that's benefitting late game heroes like those two.

 

[Haly]

Thanks volvo, thanks.

Spoiler

PA actually looks kind of cool like this.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Kinda getting the hang of Clockwerk as I get used to using more active abilities

My main problems are

1) remembering that the cogs are not well used if I end up in a 1-on-1 even fight without a ranged teammate doing damage as well, or a melee teammate in the cogs with me and the enemy, allowing the double-team. Also still taking too many hopeful risks with it, which ends up with the enemy escaping, me stuck for a couple of seconds, and my teammates stuck with the cogs blocking their path

2) Using the Hook when the path to the targetted enemy is blocked by creeps. I'm sure it says in the description that you knock enemy units out of the way en route until you hit the target, but that didn't seem to be happening yesterday

That Rocket ability is really good for finishing off enemies who have escaped with a slither of health

 

[elyetis]

Actually, it's probably the meta game shifting to late game that's benefitting late game heroes like those two.

Definitly. I mean Medusa got a decent buff, but I doubt it's the sdagger buff mean much for Spectre.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Definitly. I mean Medusa got a decent buff, but I doubt it's the sdagger buff mean much for Spectre.

My style of play is very farm and late game oriented so this patch is probably gonna turn out real well for me.

 

[Artanisix]

the reddit tears never end, do they

 

[poppedcollar69]

2) Using the Hook when the path to the targetted enemy is blocked by creeps. I'm sure it says in the description that you knock enemy units out of the way en route until you hit the target, but that didn't seem to be happening yesterday

it stuns and damages enemies you collide with when you have already hooked a valid target

 

[Imp the Dimp]

the reddit tears never end, do they

What are they crying about? Reddit is so big, you'll always have people complaining.

 

[Haly]

the reddit tears never end, do they

What are they crying about now?

 

[Laughing Black]

Neither did I.

lol forever! j/k.

Will try this out soon.

 

[Raytow]

What are they crying about now?

the comeback, im all in for omitting fountain fishing, which the mechanic itself punishes heavily.

 

[IceMarker]

GLORIOUS OMNIKNIGHT #1

 

[NBtoaster]

I like how you can group up 20 broodlings into a single tiny phased pinpoint of death now.

 

[Ketch]

One game away from finally getting 50% w/l and I loose three in a row.

Guess dota is back.

 

[Artanisix]

What are they crying about now?

cumback mechanic is broken i got 1 kill and then was able to buy butterfly diffusal on PL when we were down 3-60 and then we won

 

[mfaex]

http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit

newbee vs ig.

 

[neurosisxeno]

http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit

newbee vs ig.

You can watch Newbee use their winning strat in a meta that has shifted all odds against. Newbee will be the next Alliance.

 

[Anbokr]

are u for real china? no balls, no innovation, no experimentaiton

 

[neurosisxeno]

are u for real china? no balls, no innovation, no experimentaiton

The patch just came out right? They need 6+ months to assess every single hero and find the optimal lineups. Expect Chinese teams to suck until next Spring.

 

[NBtoaster]

Was tb at least banned? He fits pretty well with early push strats.

 

[Madouu]

did I miss anything interesting

Was tb at least banned? He fits pretty well with early push strats.

 

[Hazaro]

are u for real china? no balls, no innovation, no experimentaiton

Seriously?
GSL Ro4 TvT is on
LoL Worlds is on
China Dota is on?

fml

 

[neurosisxeno]

They did a good job targeting heroes that just got nerfed (with the exception of SD and Morph).

 

[GordonHalfman]

Leshrac still skipping ultimate? How damage do they need to make that thing do.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I wish TB got his strength gain back. Early game, he can only take towers when your team is teamfighting the enemy team 4on5 on the other side of the map so nobody's around to 2 shot your hard hitting illusions.

 

[Madouu]

Oh this fight recap in dota tv is neat, first time I get to see it.

 

[G.ZZZ]

CH IS BACK BOYS

So strong ;_;

 

[FunBoy]

What are they crying about now?

Tears for the tear god! He cares not where they flow from as long as they flow!

 

[Imp the Dimp]

CH IS BACK BOYS

So strong ;_;

Who? CK?

 

[sleverfunk]

Oh my good reddit is so awful.
While plying the new patch the game feels different. Maybe because of the new bounty. Games are more even, although stomps still happens.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

So Void got nerfed but still managed to climb in win rate due to the game shifting towards late game where he's good anyways?

 

[Acinixys]

the comeback, im all in for omitting fountain fishing, which the mechanic itself punishes heavily.

The comeback mechanic looks pretty amazing

I was watching Notail play last night against a Mirana that fed maybe 6 kills in the first 10 minutes and was pretty terrible in the mid game as well

But because of the comeback gold bonus she ended up 6 slotted and ALMOST carried their team to victory

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

X factor dota.

With Phoenix level 5.

Game is too handholdey

 

[G.ZZZ]

CIS dota so retarded

 

[G.ZZZ]

Tbh i don't mind much the comeback mechanic, just the lot of gold thrown around. It feels like mid and early heroes don't matter as much since you'll get farmed anyway and you'll get to lategame much more often. Items like Wand, Bracers, Etc... lose a lot of value this patch and u see supports itemizing a lot more 3 of last patch instead of 4 or 5. I don't like it because it cheapen the item/gold maximizing aspect of last patch and feel more like "fight all the time get gold, get items, win game". I'd like the streak ending gold gone (and when you kill someoen show ALL the gold gained instead of just the kill gold) alongside passive gold back to 1 gold per sec to make me feel like i'm working toward those supports item instead of just being around kills all the time. This way midgame snowballers aren't punished as much and you can still pick them, no reason to nerf them since they weren't top pick already (storm, Ta, QoP, Ember etc...)

 

[sleverfunk]

Comeback kicking in with newbee vs ig

 

[Madouu]

game 2 really entertaining

 

[Razzer]

The amount of time Mu kited brew for won them the fight.

 

[LiQuid!]

Just lost 3 in a row with new PL. 2 of the losses were mostly due to my team picking absolutely retarded heroes and I played like absolute human garbage in those games too tho, so not making excuses. The one game I was doing alright the enemy team's QOP got mega fed. She bought Linkins/BKB/Eblade and was practically unkillable.

I haven't really gotten a grasp on PLs kill potential yet. Huskar tried to solo gank me once in the game and I slaughtered him. Other times I would try to 1v1 a tusk and get murdered. Not sure of the best way/time to use Doppleganker, to initiate an attack, save it to try and purge a debuff or juke/escape. His cooldowns are all super low tho, which is really nice.

All of his skills scale well and I'm not sure which to max first. I've been maxing the W but I'm thinking a value point might be enough. It's a really good disjoint (disjointed Treant's ultimate and SO many other big spells), you can use it to juke up cliffs and into trees.

At any rate, I think the hero is super fun to play, regardless of how OP he may or may not be and the fact that I suck with him. Going to try more builds. He definitely seems ready to fight a LOT sooner than he used to be.

 

[sleverfunk]

Oh wow the exp and gold graph is a roller coaster.

 

[Razzer]

Just lost 3 in a row with new PL. 2 of the losses were mostly due to my team picking absolutely retarded heroes and I played like absolute human garbage in those games too tho, so not making excuses. The one game I was doing alright the enemy team's QOP got mega fed. She bought Linkins/BKB/Eblade and was practically unkillable.

I haven't really gotten a grasp on PLs kill potential yet. Huskar tried to solo gank me once in the game and I slaughtered him. Other times I would try to 1v1 a tusk and get murdered. Not sure of the best way/time to use Doppleganker, to initiate an attack, save it to try and purge a debuff or juke/escape. His cooldowns are all super low tho, which is really nice.

All of his skills scale well and I'm not sure which to max first. I've been maxing the W but I'm thinking a value point might be enough. It's a really good disjoint (disjointed Treant's ultimate and SO many other big spells), you can use it to juke up cliffs and into trees.

At any rate, I think the hero is super fun to play, regardless of how OP he may or may not be and the fact that I suck with him. Going to try more builds. He definitely seems ready to fight a LOT sooner than he used to be.

Try maxing Q then E. With that build you can just facerush people.

 

[droppedbear]

Just tried out Bloodseeker with Zeus with Aghs/refresher. So much fun, but sooooo overpowered

 

[ViviOggi]

Yeah I'd definitely max Lance while researching max level Charge in the Twilight Council, one level of the scramble skill should suffice for shenanigans in the early game.

 

[Marauder Shields]

Spectre

 

[Mohasus]

iG is back.

Best patch ever.

 

[Qvoth]

holy fucking shit dis game
6.82 is fucking nuts

 

[Ultimatum]

ok so the new meta is to feed early game