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'Dragon Age: The Veilguard' Sold Worse Than 'Star Wars Outlaws' In Europe

A new report claims that BioWare’s Dragon Age: The Veilguard was not in the top 50 best sellers in Europe and that it performed worse than Ubisoft’s Star Wars Outlaws.Fandom Pulse is a reader-supported publication.

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Games Industry Head Christopher Dring revealed sales from GSD that states that BioWare’s Dragon Age: The Veilguard sold worse than Star Wars Outlaws.

In an episode of the GamesIndustry.biz Microcast while discussing how poorly new games have sold compared to previous years, Dring shared, “Star Wars Outlaws was the 14th best selling new game of the year, but No. 45 over all.”

Next, he stated, “Dragon Age: The Veilguard, which came out at the end of October, that was No. 19 in the best selling new game chart, but was No. 68 overall.”

“Dragon Age had the market to itself and it couldn’t find an audience,” he continued. “And that’s really scary as we move into the following year.”

He made similar commentary about Star Wars Outlaws, “Star Wars Outlaws sort of had the year to itself and it didn’t find an audience and that’s a real shame.”

 

[Kacho]

“Dragon Age had the market to itself and it couldn’t find an audience,” he continued. “And that’s really scary as we move into the following year.”

 

[LectureMaster]

Meme before the thread is closed.

 

[Kotaro]

These DEI games are eating dirts one by one.

Avowed, Assassin's Creed: Shadows are next....then Yotei and Intergalactic in the next 1-2 years

 

[Jaybe]

It’s funny how none of these ‘sales analysts / reporters’ seems willing to share a point of view on why these games both bombed spectacularly

 

[Mister Wolf]

The next Mass Effect will fail as well. They are disconnected from the primary audience for console/PC videogames(Hetero Men). In the past the likes and dislikes of the developers aligned with the audience. At some point for them it has changed. The only ones getting punished for it is them, not us. Good videogames to play are a dime a dozen.

 

[Saber]

"Why these games bombs and didn't find the audience you ask? One of biggest mysteries of the universe. I guess we will never know."

 

[dorkimoe]

Finished it the other day, my only regret was i picked a mage and you spent half the fights doging and felt weak. I rebooted it up with melee and it was so much better.

 

[Kacho]

It’s funny how none of these ‘sales analysts / reporters’ seems willing to share a point of view on why these games both bombed spectacularly

It’s because the reason why these games fail is inconvenient to their worldview. Jason Schreier was ready to gloat about the game’s supposed success to own the chuds, but when that failed to materialize he deleted the tweet and went radio silent.

 

[Jaybe]

 

[Jaybe]

It’s because the reason why these games fail is inconvenient to their worldview. Jason Schreier was ready to gloat about the game’s supposed success to own the chuds, but when that failed to materialize he deleted the tweet and went radio silent.

Yep. I just remembered those Jason tweets. Plus Dring and Mat went full Sweet Baby Inc defense force after SBI called in their press industry friends to defend them. Big Ls for them all year.

 

[ryzzz]

Dragon Age flopped, Star Wars Outlaws flopped, Indiana Jones flopped.

Single player games in trouble?

 

[FunkMiller]

Dragon Age flopped, Star Wars Outlaws flopped, Indiana Jones flopped.

Single player games in trouble?

Of course they're fucking not.

Space Marine 2. Black Myth Wukong. Shadow Of The Erdtree.

 

[lh032]

Dragon Age flopped, Star Wars Outlaws flopped, Indiana Jones flopped.

WOKE Single player games in trouble?

not sure about indiana jones, but i thought it performs well?

 

[FunkMiller]

These DEI games are eating dirts one by one.

Avowed, Assassin's Creed: Shadows are next....then Yotei and Intergalactic in the next 1-2 years

Yotei will be fine. The same way Witcher 4 will be. This isn't about games having female protagonists, no matter how hard some people want it to be.

It's about not making games that appeal to your core demographic. And even actively pushing them away.

 

[Madflavor]

0 sympathy. My sympathy for them is in the negative. Mass Effect 3 was the most disappointed I've ever been with a game, and the whole thing felt like such a betrayal. So that alone was the nail in the coffin for me. But then you had Andromeda, Anthem, and Veilguard. And with Veilguard I was long emotionally removed from Bioware by that point. I never played the game, have no interest in it. But I think Veilguard is an even bigger betrayal to the fanbase than ME3 was. That game is such a far cry away from what Origins was, or even Inquisition for that matter, that it's really not even funny.

They're lost their talent, they've lost the plot, and now they've lost the goodwill of the fans.

In the words of Rambo:

 

[Z O N E]

Someone fixed the actresses model in Star Wars Outlaws and it already looks 100% better. I am officially on the boat of Game Developers lack skill and optimization and are being heavily influenced by outside "sources".

 

[Sharius]

“Dragon Age had the market to itself and it couldn’t find an audience,” he continued. “And that’s really scary as we move into the following year.”

who is we?

 

[Kumomeme]

all those woke people need to buy 10 copies each

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

 

[Fahdis]

Go woke. Go broke.

 

[Shmunter]

That’s ok as long as the 0.03% of the customer base felt seen

 

[Kotaro]

Someone fixed the actresses model in Star Wars Outlaws and it already looks 100% better. I am officially on the boat of Game Developers lack skill and optimization and are being heavily influenced by outside "sources".

It’s not about their skills, they purposely uglified her to make her look like ‘average’ woman

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Someone fixed the actresses model in Star Wars Outlaws and it already looks 100% better. I am officially on the boat of Game Developers lack skill and optimization and are being heavily influenced by outside "sources".

might get it when its 5 bucks on steam lol

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[Plague Doctor]

Hey remember right before the release of DA:V, shills were saying there was no way it would do worse than SW:Outlaws?

Those were some good times.

 

[Da1337Vinci]

Expected and I doubt the others market did that much better.

I don't even get why EA just doesn't close the studio.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Good. Now the Sony tentpoles next please.

 

[Moses85]

Woke

 

[Hypereides]

With the way it panned out, I'm not surprised. Dring shouldn't be "scared". He should acknowledge the glaring faults it had and that the market responded to those shortcomings.

Maybe its time he recognized that and came to terms with it. Perhaps the average consumers aren't all that easily persuaded as he thinks they are.

 

[Fess]

It’s funny how none of these ‘sales analysts / reporters’ seems willing to share a point of view on why these games both bombed spectacularly

Yeah. And these western failures will keep on coming. There are games coming out that started development 5+ years ago when things were a bit different. They’ll all be flushed out in similar ways unless they’re tweaked to align with the current times. Games starting full production in 2022 will likely come out okay unless the creative heads have their heads stuck in the sand.

 

[FunkMiller]

It’s not about their skills, they purposely uglified her to make her look like ‘average’ woman a trans woman.

FTFY.

 

[Cakeboxer]

not sure about indiana jones, but i thought it performs well?

Maybe i became immune after Sex Education season 4, but was so woke about Indiana Jones?

 

[Big Baller]

 

[VanCityGamer]

Maybe i became immune after Sex Education season 4, but was so woke about Indiana Jones?

I haven’t seen the fourth season yet, but enjoyed the first 3 (while thinking it slowly got more over the top). How much more preachy is the last season?

 

[Mister Wolf]

Chud owning isn't so easy.

 

[Cakeboxer]

I haven’t seen the fourth season yet, but enjoyed the first 3 (while thinking it slowly got more over the top). How much more preachy is the last season?

If you think Spider-Man 2 is woke, multiplay that with 100. I liked the first 3 seasons, but my GF really had to force me to finish season 4. It's beyond bad.

 

[Windom Earle]

Good. Now the Sony tentpoles next please.

Sony fanboys do love their exclusive slop. SMM could call their next game "Sweet Baby simulator 2025" and they'd still eat it up coping how it is somehow not woke.

 

[Fess]

was so woke about Indiana Jones?

Spoiler

A side character you meet is a lesbian.
There is a feminist angled ”insecure male” comment in there as well.

But it’s all very mild and everything else in the game is pure Indy fan service in all the right ways.

 

[protonion]

It doesn't get more trash than this.
Truly makes you believe the writer is a max level cretin.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Spoiler

A side character you meet is a lesbian.
There is a feminist angled ”insecure male” comment in there as well.

But it’s all very mild and everything else in the game is pure Indy fan service in all the right ways.

Didn't even recognize that, but if all "woke" games were likes this i wouldn't have any problem with that.

 

[Z O N E]

It’s not about their skills, they purposely uglified her to make her look like ‘average’ woman

I mean... true, but they also lack skills because the game is absolutely bug riddled.

Game Devs these days love their checklists instead of game optimization.

 

[Fess]

Didn't even recognize that, but if all "woke" games were likes this i wouldn't have any problem with that.

Yeah same here no issues with that.
But there were some red flags pre-release with a developer standing there with a rainbow T-shirt talking about modern audience. Maybe they changed things before release?

 

[Cakeboxer]

Yeah same here no issues with that.
But there were some red flags pre-release with a developer standing there with a rainbow T-shirt talking about modern audience. Maybe they changed things before release?

As far as i know SBI was involved, but it seems the devs let they/them just make some coffee/sandwiches instad of ruining the game. I'm pretty sure companies like SBI don't give a fuck about their ideologies as long as they get paid well.

 

[Kikorin]

The effects of the "wokenisation" of games/media is now starting to get impossible to deny. The defence force for the woke shit not being a factor in disastrous sales has always been "then why TLoU2/Spider-Man 2/*insert woke sequel of a blockbuster here* has been a success?".

The answer to this question was obviously to lot of people years ago yet, and was that people didn't knew these games would have been so woke, since them was sequels of super well received and super successful games that come out before the woke wave.

Even like that, the disappointment of the fanbase has been loud and now than the pattern of wokenisation in a game is obviously to anyone that is honest with itself, the effects starting to be devastating. That's why even games that seems impossible to fail (Intergalactic) have to worry, because people are making clear that they are full with this shit, and not just on Neogaf. I've been impressed on how the same question spreading here have been anywhere on YouTube/Facebook/Instagram/TikTok too. Let's hope for a brighter future now.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Dragon Age flopped, Star Wars Outlaws flopped, Indiana Jones flopped.

Single player games in trouble?

 

[Kotaro]

I mean... true, but they also lack skills because the game is absolutely bug riddled.

Game Devs these days love their checklists instead of game optimization.

correct, I agree. Most of todays developers are nothing but DEI hires with little coding skills

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

Someone fixed the actresses model in Star Wars Outlaws and it already looks 100% better. I am officially on the boat of Game Developers lack skill and optimization and are being heavily influenced by outside "sources".

The game is shite regardless of the main character.

 

[Embearded]

These DEI games are eating dirts one by one.

Avowed, Assassin's Creed: Shadows are next....then Yotei and Intergalactic in the next 1-2 years

In what universe is Yotei woke?
We've seen one trailer with a female protagonist and you declare it woke?

You live in the same bubble as Era users, only on the other side of it.

 

[vodka-bull]

He‘s right though, even though some right wing manchilds think of it as the no.1 factor to decide whether or not a game is a success, outside of their tiny bubble no one gives a shit. PR has a much bigger impact and DAVs PR was terrible.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Both games found their modern audiences, problem is they're tiny.