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[Skeeter49]

Why was there cracks in Yamcha's walls?

He was training for the tournament of power.

 

[Kazuhira]

Badass technique
Was spirt ball

It feels like he is giving the middle finger to everyone in this thread.
fuck you,fuck you,and here's some for you too.

 

[erlim]

Badass technique
Was spirt ball

It's super useful on the pitcher's mound.

 

[RareFantasy64]

It feels like he is giving the middle finger to everyone in this thread.
fuck you,fuck you,and here's some for you too.

ROFL this is great

 

[Skeeter49]

When was the spirit ball used in the canon? I remember it being used in the DBZ movies.

It wasn't in Dragonball, right?

 

[Slaythe]

When was the spirit ball used in the canon? I remember it being used in the DBZ movies.

It wasn't in Dragonball, right?

Yes it was. He used it in the last tournament against god.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

When was the spirit ball used in the canon? I remember it being used in the DBZ movies.

It wasn't in Dragonball, right?

Jesus people watch the OG Dragon Ball!

 

[ArchedThunder]

It's weird that we never got Toriyama art for that original design from the opening and got it for this look even before her debut. Also, although they kept her base design in the shot of the Pride Troopers, they removed the transformation scene itself.

Like I mentioned before, it makes me think she was originally designed by someone else, but Toriyama overruled that design with what we're seeing now. Maybe they'll reuse the original design (with no LSSJ transformation) for an unrelated fighter though since they'd need as many designs as possible for the tournament.

How is it weird that we never got art for the design in the opening? We've gotten very little Toriyama art this arc, none for the Dangerous Trio and the only Jiren art they've shown us was the Yamamuro art. I have little doubt that both designs will be used, either they are and always have been separate characters, or she simply changes her outfit when they go to the tournament.

 

[Skeeter49]

Jesus people watch the OG Dragon Ball!

Asking me to remember Yamcha when he unlocked 89% of his jobber potential is impossible.
I remember Kami doing a bunch of dodges and stuff, and Yamcha looking like a bitch, but that's all I remember.

Kami vs. Piccolo and Goku vs. Chichi was more memorable.

 

[RareFantasy64]

I'm too lazy to go back and find the post (this thread moves fast) but someone today commented how good Yamcha's current look is and it's a shame he isn't getting some action screen time with it. I agree. Mostly about his clothing. His hair, I wouldn't mind if maybe he had a shorter look but the hair is fine.

I don't think a white/grey color combo has been used for a character before. Yamcha rocked white through that long-sleeved shirt with the black pants during the Trunks arc.

 

[Slaythe]

I'm too lazy to go back and find the post (this thread moves fast) but someone today commented how good Yamcha's current look is and it's a shame he isn't getting some action screen time with it. I agree. Mostly about his clothing. His hair, I wouldn't mind if maybe he had a shorter look but the hair is fine.



I don't think a white/grey color combo has been used for a character before. Yamcha rocked white through that long-sleeved shirt with the black pants during the Trunks arc.

It's basically this costume.

 

[Skeeter49]

I never really liked the Kami house clothes Yamcha wore. It fit Krillin, it fit Goku, I didn't think it fit Yamcha.

Yamcha looks fine in white.

It's basically this costume.

Yamcha copying what was a kid's style 10 years ago. Sad.

 

[RareFantasy64]

It's basically this costume.

Oh yeah! That's true. We have seen that look before

 

[ArchedThunder]

The fact that they've shown us that they can still make stuff like this hurts more than anything

We need THAT in Super!

It's not that they can't, it's a time thing. Super started with almost no preproduction, so they've been fighting that since the beginning. Episodes are made in less time than most other anime because of this. The reason each arc after the F arc looks better than the last is because they're able to push the preproduction for each arc further back, which also makes it easier to get more staff on board. This arc feels like a pretty huge improvement, So I don't think it's going to be terribly too much longer till the show is consistently great looking.

 

[The Silver]

It's basically this costume.

More evidence of Gohan's true parentage

 

[Admiral Woofington]

If Goku found out that Chichi fucked Yamcha for Gohan, he'd probably be relieved.

Clearly he likes Goten better.

 

[NeonBlack]

More evidence of Gohan's true parentage

Yamcha a saiyan confirmed

 

[Skeeter49]

If Goku found out that Chichi fucked Yamcha for Gohan, he'd probably be relieved.

Clearly he likes Goten better.

Goten doesn't torture his enemy's, only for them to get the upper hand.
Then again Goten's never been in that situation.

Except for his only win in DBZ

Yamcha a saiyan confirmed

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Now I feel like watching those fights from the beginning. DB fights were classics tho such a shame that a lot of US folks started with Z and ignored DB.

My favorite arc is the android saga so much fun to watch always.

 

[RareFantasy64]

 

[HeroR]

It's not that they can't, it's a time thing. Super started with almost no preproduction, so they've been fighting that since the beginning. Episodes are made in less time than most other anime because of this. The reason each arc after the F arc looks better than the last is because they're able to push the preproduction for each arc further back, which also makes it easier to get more staff on board. This arc feels like a pretty huge improvement, So I don't think it's going to be terribly too much longer till the show is consistently great looking.

I doubt that since One Piece has a better pre-production and its episodes are not consistently great looking. It think you mean consistently decent looking. Which I think Super reached in the Future Trunks Saga since even the worst looking episode wasn't ugly except for a few frames.

 

[B-Dubs]

I doubt that since One Piece has a better pre-production and its episodes are not consistently great looking. It think you mean consistently decent looking. Which I think Super reached in the Future Trunks Saga since even the worst looking episode wasn't ugly except for a few frames.

That's because Toei spends no money on One Piece.

 

[Skeeter49]

I started with DBZ, but watched DB after. One fight I liked a lot in DB was Piccolo vs. Krillin.

 

[ArchedThunder]

I doubt that since One Piece has a better pre-production and its episodes are not consistently great looking. It think you mean consistently decent looking. Which I think Super reached in the Future Trunks Saga since even the worst looking episode wasn't ugly except for a few frames.

I'm not caught up on One Piece, but from people who follow that show's production I know that the show has a pretty solid quality overall and it gets great animation a lot more often that Super does.
I would say you're wrong about the Future Trunks arc, we had episodes like 67 where half of the episode looked bad, this arc is where it has reached the quality where the worst is only parts of an episode. Super's production is has big issues and its dedicated staff still isn't as big as you'd want for a show like this, so there's still a ways to go. It's getting there, but it's not there yet so we'll still see improvements to the show from here.

That's because Toei spends no money on One Piece.

Completely untrue. One Piece has a very talented staff and very regularly gets great animation. Money isn't the big decider on a show's quality, it's talent and time.
Toei spends more money on Super than anything else, but that's because they need to do things like have 2 or 3 supervisors for an episode to make up for the lack of time. Super has some great talent, but its dedicated talent pool and semi regular talent pool are much smaller and it attracts far fewer skilled freelancers because the tight schedule turns people off.

 

[caliph95]

Quoting the Imperial Bishop on one piece fore this:

The biggest misconceptions those unfamiliar with the anime production make is that the issues of the anime are due to budget.
That's not necessarily the case.
It doesn't matter how big the budget is if the production schedule is short, the animators are sub-par, and the series director is mediocre.

EDIT:
On that note, let me tell you youngsters about the production committee for the anime and all the stakeholders involved.

The stakeholders are:
Oda, Shueisha, Toei Animation, Fuji TV (the channel the anime airs on), ADK (advertising agency), Bandai, and other sponsors.

Any major decisions for the anime and other animated media go through them. If even a single one of them rejects a proposal ( for example, a long filler arc), it doesn't happen.
Fuji TV would never agree to put the anime on hold when it still does good ratings. Bandai also wouldn't agree either because they can promote new OP merch and goods through the anime.
It's a flawed, archaic way to do business and it's hurting the anime and the staff involved.

 

[HardRojo]

LMAO! Maybe in his own manga he'll get SSG.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I'm not caught up on One Piece, but from people who follow that show's production I know that the show has a pretty solid quality overall and it gets great animation a lot more often that Super does.
I would say you're wrong about the Future Trunks arc, we had episodes like 67 where half of the episode looked bad, this arc is where it has reached the quality where the worst is only parts of an episode. Super's production is has big issues and its dedicated staff still isn't as big as you'd want for a show like this, so there's still a ways to go. It's getting there, but it's not there yet so we'll still see improvements to the show from here.


Completely untrue. One Piece has a very talented staff and very regularly gets great animation. Money isn't the big decider on a show's quality, it's talent and time.
Toei spends more money on Super than anything else, but that's because they need to do things like have 2 or 3 supervisors for an episode to make up for the lack of time.

It helps that one piece now has a separate director for animation and character designs. It was absurd one person was doing both.

 

[ArchedThunder]

It helps that one piece now has a separate director for animation and character designs. It was absurd one person was doing both.

The standard is usually that the Character Designer is also the Chief Animation Supervisor/Director. It's more of a recent thing that the duties are split, which funnily enough Super already had those duties split from the beginning, with Yamamuro being Character designer and Ide and Tsuji sharing the role of CAD.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

The standard is usually that the Character Designer is also the Chief Animation Supervisor/Director. It's more of a recent thing that the duties are split, which funnily enough Super already had those duties split from the beginning, with Yamamuro being Character designer and Ide and Tsuji sharing the role of CAD.

Wait it wasn't the same for super? I thought they just made the split as well. Early super looked so rough tho..

 

[GhostTrick]

Yamcha is pretty much the Japanese version of TFS Krillin.

Once you get that low there's no coming back.

But then... Who's the version of TFS Yamcha ? :")

 

[ArchedThunder]

Wait it wasn't the same for super? I thought they just made the split as well. Early super looked so rough tho..

Early Super was rough because of the production issues I talked about above. Ide and Tsuji are probably the two biggest reasons the first 20-ish episodes even looked presentable for the most part, but the bad production really caught up with the show around episode 24.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

Watching the episode for the 30th time, it's nice that Piccolo actually wants to enter the tournament and it's excited about it.

Filler from EoZ made it seem he had retired from fighting. Hopefully that's not the case anymore when we get there.

 

[Skeeter49]

It was nice that Piccolo was excited to fight strong fighters.

Though I'm starting to think Goku isn't good at keeping secrets.

 

[CherryWoodFuton]

A Yamcha Defense Force


Now I've seen it all lol

 

[caliph95]

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[Kagari]

Watching the episode for the 30th time, it's nice that Piccolo actually wants to enter the tournament and it's excited about it.

Filler from EoZ made it seem he had retired from fighting. Hopefully that's not the case anymore when we get there.

I expect it to be heavily rewritten once we get there.

 

[Unknown One]

I need to rewatch the full Goku vs. Cell fight. I remember it being fine, but I was always more hyped for the Gohan vs. Cell fight.

Goku vs Cell is probably the best fight in Z in terms of intensity. Gohan vs Cell was a one sided joke. Cell just gets stomped.

 

[ElFly]

Cell fight only looked even because cell wasnt taking it serious. He was massively holding back against goku.

but again, the whole issue is who gave him a better fight

Goku really doesn't give it all in the Cell fight and Cell is holding back

that ain't ever gonna be a satisfactory fight, neither for Goku who didn't get to give his all, nor for the viewer, who has to be explained to that Cell was holding back

hell, it wasn't even satisfactory for Cell, who thought Goku was also holding back and wanted more

 

[ArchedThunder]

Watching the episode for the 30th time, it's nice that Piccolo actually wants to enter the tournament and it's excited about it.

Filler from EoZ made it seem he had retired from fighting. Hopefully that's not the case anymore when we get there.

Wasn't it more that he just gave up trying to keep up with Goku and Vegeta?

 

[Undead Fantasy]

I expect it to be heavily rewritten once we get there.

As it should. Imagine if Goku takes Uub to train with Whis.

Wasn't it more that he just gave up trying to keep up with Goku and Vegeta?

It was still out of character IMO. He had no trouble entering the 25th tournament.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

Piccolo can regenerate as long as it's not his head.

Then why did he die against frieza in rof?

 

[caliph95]

Piccolo can regenerate as long as it's not his head.

How did he survive when Trunks accidentally broke him into pieces

 

[Skeeter49]

Then why did he die against frieza in rof?

He still has limits to how much damage he can take.
The attack on Namek almost killed Piccolo.

How did he survive when Trunks accidentally broke him into pieces

This was when Piccolo revealed that about his regeneration. His head wasn't damaged, so the rest of his body could grow back from his head I guess.
It tookPiccolo awhile to get over to Krillin, Trunks, and Goten.

 

[bigosc2k]

Only time Yamacha has ever been useful is in the first Budokai in the tournaments, just use wolf fang fist for easy ring outs.

 

[HardRojo]

Goku vs Cell is probably the best fight in Z in terms of intensity. Gohan vs Cell was a one sided joke. Cell just gets stomped.

As a kid I think I enjoyed the Frieza battle the most. The moment Goku went SS was like the best kind of hype I could feel as an 8 year old.

 

[Zolo]

Then why did he die against frieza in rof?

I guess that just comes down to a limit? He regenerated from Frost's blast against his torso in the tournament, but a beam from Frieza killed him. ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[CO_Andy]

Incredibly disappointed Piccolo isn't even at 17's level anymore, despite being far more active in saving the Earth and having access to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber

 

[Turin]

Incredibly disappointed Piccolo isn't even at 17's level anymore, despite being far more active in saving the Earth and having access to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber

He's still a badass. I'd like to see him get another crack at Frost.

 

[The Silver]

Incredibly disappointed Piccolo isn't even at 17's level anymore, despite being far more active in saving the Earth and having access to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber

those dinosaurs in the middle of nowhere he trains at don't give nearly as much exp as the poachers 17 grinds.

 

[Slaythe]

Incredibly disappointed Piccolo isn't even at 17's level anymore, despite being far more active in saving the Earth and having access to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber

What the fuck does that mean ?

You realize 17 is top 3 of the heroes right now. Yet you're saying that as if he sucked.