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Dragon Ball Super |OT8| There is no justice or evil, only survival or erasure.
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Man Belmont sure loves justice what a great guy
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wants to fuck an Asian grill.
- Alien
- Part of a justice league
- Can shoot energy out of his eyes
- Wears tights
- His team includes a lasso user, a cyborg, and a speedster (edited)
- His God and Angel are references to Joker and Harley Quinn
You don't see the intentional similarities? And then seemingly he has some sort of steel form, which would be taking the Man of Steel moniker quite literally, tho this remains to be seen.
About a quarter of the chapter was just Beerus wank
In the Anime it served to show the weird abilities they might faces, show the stakes, character development for Gohan and some cool fight scenes
Here is just Beerus wank
I will be fair and say we learn about different GoDs
It's still a boring scene
Yep.
Goku's gonna get his shit kicked in by Jiren.
Gohan tho he's gonna rise the fuck up.
Hmm... Even tho Zeno was complaining about the universe, Grand Priest was the one who was clearly suggesting erasing most of them.
Undead Fantasy
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Not to mention that at this pace it's going to take more than a year to catch up.
At this point I'm guessing Toyotarou won't even include Buu... which is a shame because his fight was fun and still one of the best in this entire arc so far.
The Silver
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I liked the manga, seeing the GoDs interact is what I wanted to see more of in the anime, and I don't see any problem at all with Goku.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
Grand Priest shows his evil side when
Hit
Makes sense he's missing a lot of potential customers
ArchedThunder
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I don't think Toyo is concerned with catching up.
Undead Fantasy
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Buu isn't on his cover lmao.
I think that's a good thing.
That's like a negative negative, it gotta be better.
I like the manga version of events more than the anime. It's DB, so nothing makes sense, but I feel like the manga at least tries a little harder to explain certain things. For example, it seems like the games the 2 Zenos play being complicated by too many universes is what spurs the idea to destroy most of them which I find a lot better than the single Zeno in trunks timeline (or the Zeno in the timeline where zamas and gowasu check on that planet in the future) suddenly having uncharacteristic patience and just waiting an eternity for no apparent reason before actually pulling the trigger. I'm not sure if the anime even tries to address this issue or if that was just made up by the fans to try and make sense of it all.
Who shot energy out of their eyes and what steel form?
Also, that's fan assumption that U11 God and angel is based on Joker and Harley Quinn, especially since those two act nothing like them and U11 is only similar to Harley Quinn because she has pigtails.
And get his shit kicked in.
Gohan fighting Toppo is the new, Tien will fight the U4 bugs.
nckillthegrimace
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Of course Toyotarou changes the story so that Goku asking for a tournament is actually a good thing. By adding the scene with the Zen-ohs pondering the immediately deletion of eight universes, he completely removes the consequences of Goku's selfishness. Instead, Goku's a hero who saved one universe rather than the jackass who got seven deleted because he likes to fight a bunch.
What a fucking hack.
What a fucking hack.
To be fair the anime backtracked on that as well.
After the appearance of the reverse Dyspo and The General becoming a supervillain when his home planet was destroyed
The Silver
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the anime says the same thing, it brought up that everyone should be grateful to Goku because he gave one of the universes a chance to live where as before Zeno would have blown them all to HFIL
It wasn't a 'backtrack' since that was planned from the start. Fans just chose to ignore that detail even when several characters said Goku did the lower universes a favor.
...I'm guessing good boy Bergamo's moment where he tried to prevent multiverse erasure in the preliminaries didn't happen, huh?
GAF is always wrong about what's gonna happen in Super, so I have a bad feeling that Gohan is going to eat shit.
I prefer not to say anything that I want lol.
nckillthegrimace
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I think one Supreme Kai (Universe 1?) said that. And his universe isn't even on the chopping block! That's not really a backtrack, so much as a pithy opinion from someone with nothing at stake. The participants clearly feel differently.
Nope. All of the GoD are fighting instead.
Vados said the same thing
Baleoce
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The Dyspoint Paradox
LSauchelli
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In the manga, it looks like the everyone will blame Goku and Beerus anyway. It's just more clear to the reader that Goku actually did a good thing here. Of course, if he hadn't brought the future Zeno-sama, they wouldn't have decided to destroy the universes in the first place.
The Silver
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it was Vados
and how is there any difference when clearly none of the GoDs in the manga feel any appreciation to Goku either, they hate Goku and ended up gunning for Beerus because of it. No one is grateful to Goku in both versions, both versions make a point that Goku isn't at fault and instead actually inadvertently did something "good".
LSauchelli
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I don't remember if it was just stated in promo material or in the actual anime, but it's not new, he always was considered a
GoD Candidate
It's on the official Toei website and various magazine promos.
Manga changes have been suprisingly good this arc, lets hope they stick with it.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how Toyable handles the recruiting of everyone. I'm sure he'll skim over a bunch, but it'll be interesting to see.
Zeno being so close to erasing universe 7 and Goku popping in at just the right moment coincidentally saving them all after Beerus told him not to go is quite ironic. Zeno also comes across as more competent here, sure he still acts childlike in nature, but he competently talked about Universe growth and what to do with them which the anime didn't do as well.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how Toyable handles the recruiting of everyone. I'm sure he'll skim over a bunch, but it'll be interesting to see.
ArchedThunder
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My thoughts on the manga chapter;
I liked seeing some more stuff with the GoDs in their day to day
I liked the GoDs bringing up the fact that there are two Zeno now
I'm mixed on the Zen Exhibition match, on one hand the anime version was great, it gave us some cool Buu action and was a pretty big moment for Gohan's character. On the other hand it's nice to have differences between the anime and manga and seeing the GoDs in action is cool. I think it's a bit too early to yell Beerus wank, it didn't seem to portay him as massively stronger than the others, it's just that he's able to dodge really well thanks to his body being able to think for itself. He seemed like he had to put some real effort into getting out of Mosco's grip and I'm sure the next chapter will show him having a bit more of a hard time. Also the whole thing about Goku playing the role of the villain in the anime was great for that version of the story since he was actively fighting, the endgame of it was Toppo challenging him, in the manga the GoDs are still blaming him and I wouldn't be surprised if Toppo still challenges him, but in this version it doesn't really make sense for Goku to actively play the role of villain like he did in the anime, at least not yet.
Ultimately I think it was a good chapter, I don't know if I'd say it's better or worse than the anime version, just different, and honestly that's what I want from the manga.
I liked seeing some more stuff with the GoDs in their day to day
I liked the GoDs bringing up the fact that there are two Zeno now
I'm mixed on the Zen Exhibition match, on one hand the anime version was great, it gave us some cool Buu action and was a pretty big moment for Gohan's character. On the other hand it's nice to have differences between the anime and manga and seeing the GoDs in action is cool. I think it's a bit too early to yell Beerus wank, it didn't seem to portay him as massively stronger than the others, it's just that he's able to dodge really well thanks to his body being able to think for itself. He seemed like he had to put some real effort into getting out of Mosco's grip and I'm sure the next chapter will show him having a bit more of a hard time. Also the whole thing about Goku playing the role of the villain in the anime was great for that version of the story since he was actively fighting, the endgame of it was Toppo challenging him, in the manga the GoDs are still blaming him and I wouldn't be surprised if Toppo still challenges him, but in this version it doesn't really make sense for Goku to actively play the role of villain like he did in the anime, at least not yet.
Ultimately I think it was a good chapter, I don't know if I'd say it's better or worse than the anime version, just different, and honestly that's what I want from the manga.
And Whis.
Yeah I think it's written better this way. In fact I think the anime wanted it this way but by the time they tell you what Goku did is actually kind of good you're already too flabbergasted by everything. By having Zeno about to kill everyone and Goku interrupting it keeps our enmity on Zeno.
I feel like there's a lot of things that are pointing to him being in the game.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
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