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[TheSpoiler]

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It's likely with one of the previews mentioning his body throbbing that it only came from this tournament.

Though I rather limit the forms he has but whatever

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I dunno. Just makes him seem like a moron to be using all that energy when he knows he could be doing it a better, different way. That's not including the side effects, I mean. Stay in God not JUST for the energy drain and only pump it up to Blue when necessary. I guess it's better than just making God more powerful but still silly in its own way lol

 

[Skeeter49]

Working Theory based on 104's preview

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Goku's supposed to be fighting a Yardrat in 104, the one Caulifla kicked away in 100, what if they have a poisoning ability or something similar to a poison, that is taking it's toll on Goku, and he needs to heal from it? So he goes SSG for the sole purpose of healing, but also has to help Hit while he's healing? Or something that messes with Goku's ki control, so he messes up the transformation in 105.

Either way, this could potentially have something to do with the Yardrat? Assuming Goku beats him in 104, are they really going to do nothing with him? If it wasn't for the leak no one would think of SSG, so Goku being hurt by the Yardrat would be intended to be a shocking and concerning moment for Goku.

There's also the fact that he might fight more people from U2, and he is still fighting that magical girl for at least a little. Maybe she hurts Goku, or does some type of poison attack.

Last case scenario, is the pride troopers. In 105 it says Hit is surrounded by Pride Troopers,
but only mentions Dyspo, so I would have to think there's more than just Dyspo, maybe they hurt Goku?

 

[N7.Angel]

Super is a mess, it's pretty much fan-fiction quality of writing with low budget animation and too much fan service, the only positive I see in Super is the fact that not only Goku and Vegeta are relevant but it doesn't make any sense at the end...

They're so much better animes/mangas atm that I don't really care about what DB has become but I wish those animes would have the same popularity/exposure than this mediocre one, I'm not judging people that are digging the show so far, every taste are in the nature...

 

[Kain-Nosgoth]

Super is a mess, it's pretty much fan-fiction quality of writing with low budget animation and too much fan service, the only positive I see in Super is the fact that not only Goku and Vegeta are relevant but it doesn't make any sense at the end...

They're so much better animes/mangas atm that I don't really care about what DB has become but I wish those animes would have the same popularity/exposure than this mediocre one, I'm not judging people that are digging the show so far, every taste are in the nature...

i'm not the biggest fan, i pretty much know it's not a great anime, but like a lot of people here, we're watching purely by nostalgia!

If i look at it objectively, only Dragon Ball was really enjoyable to me, Z was dumb and its only quality was the fight scenes

 

[N7.Angel]

i'm not the biggest fan, i pretty much know it's not a great anime, but like a lot of people here, we're watching purely by nostalgia!

If i look at it objectively, only Dragon Ball was really enjoyable to me, Z was dumb and its only quality was the fight scenes

Sure, many of my friends are watching it for that reason, nothing wrong with this.

 

[RocknRola]

People who can't conceive Super making bad decisions are the worst. You don't have to defend everything. Just admit Super fucked up and it doesn't make sense. Toriyama isn't going to kill you in your sleep if you don't religiously stand behind Super.

Well, yeah, but what if sends Arale after people? :O

 

[ArchedThunder]

People who can't conceive Super making bad decisions are the worst. You don't have to defend everything. Just admit Super fucked up and it doesn't make sense. Toriyama isn't going to kill you in your sleep if you don't religiously stand behind Super.

I think it's dumb, but we can at least wait for the episode to air to make final judgments.
I was very against Freeza coming back, but they did it great.

 

[caliph95]

I think it's dumb, but we can at least wait for the episode to air to make final judgments.
I was very against Freeza coming back, but they did it great.

On the same boat.

This is dumb and would rather limit transformation but I'm going to wait and see.

 

[Kagari]

I care more about episode 103. Let's talk about that.

 

[caliph95]

Gowasu

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dies who cares

 

[kuYuri]

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then Goku should have used it from the get go instead of wasting power in blue ya know? If he really wants to fight Jiren and survive it's on his best interest to conserve stamina so shitting around in blue and THEN going Red is dumb. Especially when the show keeps browbeating about conserving energy

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You and others definitely have a valid point that can shoot down that theory. Again, the reasoning I used was just an example, I'm not saying it's definitely the reason why we're seeing SSJG, my point was mostly that SSJG may have something advantageous to it that SSJB doesn't have, similar to the different SSJ forms that we saw during the Cell arc having different strengths and weaknesses. The example is actually based a lot on what we saw in the manga with Goku/Vegeta vs Goku Black and how SSJG and SSJB was used in that. But I don't want to directly apply manga logic to the anime because there are clear differences.

I am noticing a trend of DBS reusing a number of plot devices from the original manga, so I can see them reusing this particular one.

 

[Arkeband]

People concerned with continuity about Goku's energy need to be reminded that characters in Super have just as much power/energy as the plot asks for at any time. If Goku wastes a bunch of energy and they actually bother mentioning it, he'll suddenly regain everything through a transformation or the androids will rejuvenate him with some new technique we haven't seen yet.

 

[Host Samurai]

Super is a mess, it's pretty much fan-fiction quality of writing with low budget animation and too much fan service, the only positive I see in Super is the fact that not only Goku and Vegeta are relevant but it doesn't make any sense at the end...

They're so much better animes/mangas atm that I don't really care about what DB has become but I wish those animes would have the same popularity/exposure than this mediocre one, I'm not judging people that are digging the show so far, every taste are in the nature...

I love it but it's hard not to be fan fiction when a super popular series has been on hiatus for 20 years.

 

[Romars202129]

Fanfiction? Its just a silly comedy series with action and sometimes stakes. Its not goddamn Shakespeare but its not fanfiction either.
Its a decent show aided by nostalgia.

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

Gowasu

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dies who cares

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I'm pretty sure his subscribers on godtube will care.

 

[MKIL65]

Gowasu

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dies who cares

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You're right. He has already died 2 times. lol

But this time he's getting erased!

 

[caliph95]

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I'm pretty sure his subscribers on godtube will care.

Who watched Godtube anyway?

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His subscribers are probably going to be erased as well

Cus is probably happy for no more clickbait thumbnail

 

[caliph95]

Fanfiction? Its just a silly comedy series with action and sometimes stakes. Its not goddamn Shakespeare but its not fanfiction either.
Its a decent show aided by nostalgia.

What does fanfiction means anyway

 

[Romars202129]

What does fanfiction means anyway

Something purely nostalgic, going down rabbit holes only a obsessive fan would care about but adding very little to the series as a whole.
See GT.

 

[Eylos]

Launch before breaking up with tien and kicking his ass. And before she decided to leave, and start her off screen training to become the strongest human on par with BLUE.

https://manokmetz.deviantart.com/gallery/

There's others pretty good arts there

 

[Romars202129]

Launch before breaking up with tien and kicking his ass. And before she decided to leave, and start her off screen training to become the strongest human on par with BLUE.

https://manokmetz.deviantart.com/gallery/

There's others pretty good arts there

I really like this pic. Oh if only Saiyan fever never stole toriyama away and made him forget the support cast.

 

[Kagari]

Super is a mess, it's pretty much fan-fiction quality of writing with low budget animation and too much fan service, the only positive I see in Super is the fact that not only Goku and Vegeta are relevant but it doesn't make any sense at the end...

They're so much better animes/mangas atm that I don't really care about what DB has become but I wish those animes would have the same popularity/exposure than this mediocre one, I'm not judging people that are digging the show so far, every taste are in the nature...

Right now the main thing keeping me watching is the rest of the cast. Goku's continued idiocy has made me really dislike his character in Super outside of a few rare moments. I enjoyed him in the original series.

 

[Icyflamez96]

I care more about episode 103. Let's talk about that.

i can't wait to see gohan punch a dude

 

[J-Rod]

Tien will have a new gf in yurin

 

[Undead Fantasy]

Gowasu

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dies who cares

You monster.

 

[Eylos]

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[Fulminator]

People who can't conceive Super making bad decisions are the worst. You don't have to defend everything. Just admit Super fucked up and it doesn't make sense. Toriyama isn't going to kill you in your sleep if you don't religiously stand behind Super.

"People who can't handle super making bad decisions are the worst..."

Same could be said for the opposite

Its less about defending and more about not making assumptions when we have zero information other than one picture

 

[Skii]

I think it's dumb, but we can at least wait for the episode to air to make final judgments.
I was very against Freeza coming back, but they did it great.

Sure but there really isn't any need to defend the decision so vehemently either.

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They haven't explain Vegeta gaining SSB, SSR (arguably they didn't have to) and Ikari Trunks. So it's not unreasonable at all to jump to the conclusion that they wont explain this or the explanation will be extremely lacklustre

Also Frieza hasn't done anything of consequence yet in this arc so I wouldn't really call his return "great".

 

[Fulminator]

i'm not the biggest fan, i pretty much know it's not a great anime, but like a lot of people here, we're watching purely by nostalgia!

If i look at it objectively, only Dragon Ball was really enjoyable to me, Z was dumb and its only quality was the fight scenes

Dunno why you would watch it for any other reason tbh

(DBZ or DBS. Dragon Ball is a different breed)

 

[caliph95]

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[Fj0823]

Oh, "we're at the WORST ANIME EVER BASED ON THESE VAGUE PREVIEWS" stage again.

But hey it won't be as bad as Caulifla turning Blue or Frieza turning good joining the team

 

[Heroman]

I think it's dumb, but we can at least wait for the episode to air to make final judgments.
I was very against Freeza coming back, but they did it great.

They did ?

 

[Icyflamez96]

They did ?

To most people yes.

 

[Kagari]

Sure but there really isn't any need to defend the decision so vehemently either.

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They haven't explain Vegeta gaining SSB, SSR (arguably they didn't have to) and Ikari Trunks. So it's not unreasonable at all to jump to the conclusion that they wont explain this or the explanation will be extremely lacklustre

Also Frieza hasn't done anything of consequence yet in this arc so I wouldn't really call his return "great".

Yeah, all those things such as "this arc needs tension" and "interaction with the team" people wanted haven't really happened...

 

[Crocodile]

Sure but there really isn't any need to defend the decision so vehemently either.

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They haven't explain Vegeta gaining SSB, SSR (arguably they didn't have to) and Ikari Trunks. So it's not unreasonable at all to jump to the conclusion that they wont explain this or the explanation will be extremely lacklustre

Also Frieza hasn't done anything of consequence yet in this arc so I wouldn't really call his return "great".

I have no opinion on "that" until I see episode 104 but episode 95 (right #?) was one of the best episodes of the series and has set up way more potential for the future narrative moving forward. We'll have to see how things turn out moving forward but so far the pay off for Freiza has been way higher than I expected.

Yeah, all those things such as "this arc needs tension" and "interaction with the team" people wanted haven't really happened...

I will at least concede that many episodes look more hype from the previews than they turn out to actually be

 

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[Baroquemantic]

I'm just here along for the ride. This shit is entertaining, I like (most of) these characters, and I'm a long-time DB fan so I'll keep watching. I'm not gonna defend any inconsistencies or whatever because stuff like that just doesn't affect my enjoyment in either direction, and people are well within their right to criticize what they see as issues with the show.

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Besides, Super is all just a Matrix-like simulation created by Baby to punish the remaining Saiyans for destroying the Tuffles.

 

[Icyflamez96]

I have no opinion on "that" until I see episode 104 but episode 95 (right #?) was one of the best episodes of the series and has set up way more potential for the future narrative moving forward. We'll have to see how things turn out moving forward but so far the pay off for Freiza has been way higher than I expected.

Yup, he already improved things. I'm sure more fun interactions will come. I mean so far it's not like Gohan has done anything interesting in this tournament either. His time will come, and so will Frieza's.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

My view is

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super saiyan blue is not a true god form in the proper sense.
It's a form that, as powerful as it may be, has too much of the power of a regular super saiyan mixed in, taking away from the true potential of the super saiyan god form. Essentially, it's an unnatural god form.

Goku also always looked no different from his normal base form while in the super saiyan god form, which means he was never a "super saiyan god," he was a god who just happened to also be a saiyan.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Yeah, all those things such as "this arc needs tension" and "interaction with the team" people wanted haven't really happened...

the nearest bit of tension was Universe 9 being erased as it showed the zenos are not fucking around about this and even then it doesn't ultimately matter since universe 7 should be taking it.

Bar some interruption and/or twist its gonna remain that way

 

[caliph95]

the nearest bit of tension was Universe 9 being erased as it show the zenos are not fucking atround about this and even then it doesn't ultimately matter since universe 7 should be taking it.

Bar some interruption and/or twist its gonna remain that way

Next few episodes Kale went crazy for.a while (could count for tension) then fodder from 2 and 11 got erased and Ribranne is pissed at 17 i guess that's tension

Its been fun but yeah other than U9 little has been tense might change soon though

 

[HardRojo]

They did ?

They handled it amazingly well, those 3 episodes were on point and Goku wasn't an idiot for once.

 

[Gin-Shiio]

I fully expect Frieza to be a leading role for the next arc. This one was just the excuse to bring him back.

 

[Icyflamez96]

They handled it amazingly well, those 3 episodes were on point and Goku wasn't an idiot for once.

Before someone else replies to you with the god energy scene I'm going to reply to you with the god energy scene.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Also Frieza hasn't done anything of consequence yet in this arc so I wouldn't really call his return "great".

They did ?

Episodes 94 and 95 are outstanding episodes and every bit we've gotten of him after those episodes has been great.

 

[caliph95]

I fully expect Frieza to be a leading role for the next arc. This one was just the excuse to bring him back.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Also Frieza hasn't done anything of consequence yet in this arc so I wouldn't really call his return "great".

Literally the only thing I've actually 100% liked from this arc is Frieza making his internal memo that he wants to deal with the Angels/Zenos cos eradicating universes for no reason from a small child pissed him off. I just hope it pays off.

 

[caliph95]

Literally the only thing I've actually 100% liked from this arc is Frieza making his internal memo that he wants to deal with the Angels/Zenos cos eradicating universes for no reason from a small child pissed him off. I just hope it pays off.

He's just pissed that is not him doing it

 

[Baroquemantic]

I fully expect Frieza to be a leading role for the next arc. This one was just the excuse to bring him back.

Please, no.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Before someone else replies to you with the god energy scene I'm going to reply to you with the god energy scene.

It was no different than him letting go of Raditz's tail or getting knocked out by Majin Vegeta (who had just murdered a ton of innocents).
I've yet to see anyone give a good example as to how Goku is being any more of an idiot in this arc than normal, people only list things that are totally in character.