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[HeroR]

well, that was unexpected, as SS 1/2/blue without the blue aura (speciallty SS 1/2) looked pretty off to me.

If i had to guess, i would assume that the general consensus is that super saiyan goku (and spicky saiyan like hair) look significantly worse in super, compared to in the past.

However, goku's appearance in dragon ball super is probably a discussion that people had way back when super was released. Me randomly coming in and bringing it up 109 episodes in (i hadn't watched a full episode of super before) is probably not going to make people interested in going over that again.

I wanted to give my opinion on it, at least.

Super Saiyan without the aura also looked meh in Z. Especially when it shaded more blond than gold and there some ugly Super Saiyan Goku shots in Z.

You could say that, but you can't say for sure unless you run poll.

You can have your opinion, I just didn't like the implication that no one could see Super Saiyan Goku in Super better than Z. While Z has some great shots of Super Saiyan anyone that looks better than Super, it are several hideous Super Saiyan shots, most in the Cell Saga.

 

[Oregano]

Back in the Namek/Frieza saga Frieza assumed Gohan was Vegeta's kid, didn't he?

Makes sense looking at Super's Gohan.

 

[Kagari]

Back in the Namek/Frieza saga Frieza assumed Gohan was Vegeta's kid, didn't he?

Makes sense looking at Super's Gohan.

Nah, he realizes Gohan must be a Saiyan kid and rules out Vegeta and Nappa because he doesn't resemble them. He thinks he might be Raditz's since his face looks similar.

 

[caliph95]

He also thought Trunks was Trunks kid

 

[ec0ec0]

Super Saiyan without the aura also looked meh in Z.

about the aura thing, i was refering to super saiyan blue, which has that blue aura that makes goku look kinda different. The blue aura stands out a lot more than the yellow one, but goku doesn't have it most of the time anyway. So, when giving my opinion on SSB goku appearance, i pointed out that i was talking about it without the blue aura, as that how he appears most of the time.

 

[brinstar]

Nah, he realizes Gohan must be a Saiyan kid and rules out Vegeta and Nappa because he doesn't resemble them. He thinks he might be Raditz's since his face looks similar.

which is funny because Gohan looks nothing like Raditz and Raditz has the same face as Vegeta anyway lol

 

[Morlas]

it's fine since we've reached peak blue already

 

[Icyflamez96]

This one is from the ToP, and there's another good one from Vegeta doing his Final Flash against Magetta in the U6 tournament.

wait wow all the best shots of vegeta were from fighting magetta

 

[caliph95]

wait wow all the best shots of vegeta were from fighting magetta

Magetta's real power

 

[Morlas]

 

[ec0ec0]

While Z has some great shots of Super Saiyan anyone that looks better than Super, it are several hideous Super Saiyan shots, most in the Cell Saga.

it's more about the appearance that he tends to have, not the apearance that he may have in a particular shot/frame. Super saiyan blue appeared a lot during 109, more than enough to judge it. Super saiyan 1/2 barely appeared, but considering that this was going to be the super hyped "special", and it was supposedly going to have the best animation in super yet, i though that it would be ok to judge super saiyan's appearance based on 109, as i assumed they wouldn't make goku look worse than usual in the "special". I just gave for granted that that was representative of how super saiyan 1/2 goku usually looks, but thinking about it, maybe i shouldn't have said anything about it considering how little it appeared on the episode. Although, no one came and said to me "actually, that wasn't representative of how super saiyan goku tends to look as he usually looks much better than that".

 

[Morlas]

it's more about the appearance that he tends to have, not the apearance that he may have in a particular shot/frame. Super saiyan blue appeared a lot during 109, more than enough to judge it. Super saiyan 1/2 barely appeared, but considering that this was going to be the super hyped "special", and it was supposedly going to have the best animation in super yet, i though that would be ok to judge super saiyan's appearance based on 109, as i assumed they wouldn't make goku look worse than usual in the "special". I just gave for granted that that was representative of how super saiyan 1/2 goku usually looks, but thinking about it, maybe i shouldn't have said anything about it considering how little it appeared on the episode. Although, no one came and said to me "actually, that wasn't representative of how super saiyan goku tends to look as he usually looks much better than that".

regular super saiyan goku hasn't appeared very often in super

 

[SenjutsuSage]

The angels have answered

Lead credence to the people thinking Zeno is a glass cannon

I don't know about that. One of the greatest threats our heroes have ever faced was Zamasu who was becoming the entire universe, spreading his influence. Zeno saw him and handled it like it was nothing. If he can do that, I can't possibly see fusion Zamasu, for example, being any threat to Zeno. They protect him due to how important he is, and, above all, how child like and innocent he is. But if someone challenges him to a fight or attempts to present a legitimate threat to him, they are dead.

 

[HeroR]

about the aura thing, i was refering to super saiyan blue, which has that blue aura that makes goku look kinda different. The blue aura stands out a lot more than the yellow one, but goku doesn't have it most of the time anyway. So, when giving my opinion on SSB goku appearance, i pointed out that i was talking about it without the blue aura, as that how he appears most of the time.

Auraless Blue depends on who draws it. It can looked good, to fine, to bleh. I will agree that the aura makes the god forms.

regular super saiyan goku hasn't appeared very often in super

You can even count it:

Battle of Gods: 2

Resurrection 'F': 1

Champa Saga: 1

Future Trunks Saga: 0

Breather Episodes: 2

Universal Survival Saga: 8

So about 60% of Super Saiyan usage is in this saga alone.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Goku's super Saiyan form did look much better in Z, but because it isn't really the main event now it gets lower priority when it's being drawn. The biggest issue is the hair and the face.

 

[ec0ec0]

Auraless Blue depends on who draws it. It can looked good, to fine, to bleh. I will agree that the aura makes the god forms.

another reason why judging goku's appearance based on a single episode wasn't the greatest idea. Athought you would expect him to look the best he possibly can in the "special"

 

[Skeeter49]

Wonder what it's gonna take for Jiren to give a fuck

Goku offering "services " for him.

 

[Morlas]

another reason why judging goku's appearance based on a single episode wasn't the greatest idea. Athought you would expect him to look the best he possibly can in the "special"

it's pretty obvious most of the effort was put into the actual animation and SSBKK....because the animation did look very good

 

[HeroR]

another reason why judging goku's appearance based on a single episode wasn't the greatest idea. Athought you would expect him to look the best he possibly can in the "special"

Blue looks great in in 109. It just better cuts exists like Episodes 57, 66, and 95.

it's pretty obvious most of the effort was put into the actual animation and SSBKK....because the animation did look very good

That too.

 

[ec0ec0]

You can even count it:

Battle of Gods: 2

Resurrection 'F': 1

Champa Saga: 1

Future Trunks Saga: 0

Breather Episodes: 2

Universal Survival Saga: 8

So about 60% of Super Saiyan usage is in this saga alone.

really!? that's virtually nothing for 110 episodes?

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Also, based on OP, Goku is most definitely awakening a super Saiyan version of that form he used while fighting Jiren. He probably won't immediately reawaken ultra instinct, but his power and speed will be able to match Jiren's.

 

[HeroR]

really!? that's virtually nothing for 110 episodes?

Super Saiyan isn't Goku's main form anymore. He mostly used it to test people or to save energy. In the Future Trunks Saga, he used Super Saiyan 2 as his testing form, which he used three times.

But I was wrong, he used Super Saiyan three times in Battle of Gods Saga. I forgot his training on the farm. He also used Super Saiyan nine times in this current saga, forgot he used Super Saiyan against Toppo.

 

[ec0ec0]

Blue looks great in in 109. It just better cuts exists like Episodes 57, 66, and 95.

i'll check it out.

 

[Oregano]

Nah, he realizes Gohan must be a Saiyan kid and rules out Vegeta and Nappa because he doesn't resemble them. He thinks he might be Raditz's since his face looks similar.

Damn, I wasn't sure if I was remembering wrong. Seems I was.

 

[Skeeter49]

really!? that's virtually nothing for 110 episodes?

Blue was introduced in RoF, since then SSJ has been obsolete.

Gohan was the only one representing SSJ post that. Plus the occasional Gotenks appearance, and discount Tarble.

This arc has been focused on stamina control, which is why SSJ has had a bigger focus.

 

[Kevinroc]

The Grand Priest did shield Zenos during the spirit bomb

MasakoX went in on that part in his 109/110 fallout video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPGMeOpOfZ8

 

[Icyflamez96]

Cam someone post those good shots of Vegeta from the U6 arc vs Magetta. Someone's gotta know what I'm talking about.

 

[CryptiK]

Still want Gohan to bust out a super Masenko in this arc. Make it official fuck the Kamehameha everyone has that shit.

 

[Icyflamez96]

These 2 from Gohan training with Piccolo are among my favorite SS shots in Super too (wish I could find a cleaner version of the first one):

There are a few shots of Gohan I think are really good but I'm not a fan of how he looks in this shot, or this episode in general.

One shot I like I can think of is the one where he Kamehamehas Goku's Kamehameha.

 

[caliph95]

MasakoX went in on that part in his 109/110 fallout video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPGMeOpOfZ8

It's how I noticed it

 

[ec0ec0]

so, super saiyan blue, doesn't have the blue aura most of the time, right? (which is a shame)

is it so that they save themselves the work of having to draw it/animate it all the time? is it used more in the big moments instead? (when they spend more in animation)

 

[Kagari]

There are a few shots of Gohan I think are really good but I'm not a fan of how he looks in this shot, or this episode in general.

One shot I like I can think of is the one where he Kamehamehas Goku's Kamehameha.

Blessed image:

 

[Icyflamez96]

so, super saiyan blue, doesn't have the blue aura most of the time, right? (which is a shame)

is it so that they save themselves the work of having to draw it/animate it all the time? is it used more in the big moments instead? (when they spend more in animation)

It's when Goku wants to show off

Blessed image:

This may be my favorite shot of him in all of Super.

 

[HeroR]

It's how I noticed it

I think someone put it best that he wanted to make sure nothing hit Zen’o and upset him. The Grand Priest was worried that the Spirit Bomb would nuke the stage.

It's when Goku wants to show off

Correct. Like Super Saiyan in Z didn’t have an aura 90% of the time. The god forms stick out since the auras are more dramatic. Like Blue has a smooth, serene aura while Super Saiyan God has a flame aura that is different from Super Saiyan.

All the auras in Z looked the same with different colors.

 

[caliph95]

At least you are not a fan of SS3 (I'm not)

 

[caliph95]

I think someone put it best that he wanted to make sure nothing hit Zen’o and upset him. The Grand Priest was worried that the Spirit Bomb would nuke the stage.

That would make more sense

I still don't buy them being glass cannon was just an interesting observation

 

[Fulminator]

These 2 from Gohan training with Piccolo are among my favorite SS shots in Super too (wish I could find a cleaner version of the first one):

too bad that's not gohan

This may be my favorite shot of him in all of Super.

i agree

that episode and a couple shots from 89 are the only ones where he truly looks like gohan to me

 

[Icyflamez96]

That would make more sense

I still don't buy them being glass cannon was just an interesting observation

I don't know why else he'd need bodyguards.

Edit: wait nvm

 

[HardRojo]

too bad that's not gohan



i agree

that episode and a couple shots from 89 are the only ones where he truly looks like gohan to me

I like him in those shots

 

[Uzumaki Goku]

So if each episode takes about 2 minutes and we have 25 minutes left, we should have about maybe 12 episodes left in the TOP? I imagine they'll want to announce what the next arc will be at JF in December.

 

[Ashodin]

So if each episode takes about 2 minutes and we have 25 minutes left, we should have about maybe 12 episodes left in the TOP? I imagine they'll want to announce what the next arc will be at JF in December.

Just because the tournament ends doesn't mean the arc is over.

 

[Kagari]

I like him in those shots

Same. SSJ2 Gohan in Super looked nice in a few shots. I particularly like this one by Miyako Tsuji:

She consistently draws him well I'd say.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

When you just woke up but the universe is in danger

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Just because the tournament ends doesn't mean the arc is over.

We haven't even had hints of the twist yet.

I'd be totally surprised if this tournament was played straight.

 

[HardRojo]

Same. SSJ2 Gohan in Super looked nice in a few shots. I particularly like this one by Miyako Tsuji:

She consistently draws him well I'd say.

He looks good there, though I'm still expecting an episode where he mostly looks good in his Ultimate form, hopefully later this arc when all the big players are the only ones left.

When you just woke up but the universe is in danger

Lol.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

It depends on who's drawing it. It's not, well this form is drawn poor on purpose, and these forms look good.

 

[Morlas]

I kinda like how the artists can't decide just how wild Caulifla's hair is

 

[CryptiK]

It depends on who's drawing it. It's not, well this form is drawn poor on purpose, and these forms look good.

Just noticed he has the SSB hair style in that shot and not the SS one.

 

[Fulminator]

Just noticed he has the SSB hair style in that shot and not the SS one.

Isn't it the same?

 

[Skeeter49]

I don't trust U4's god. He's up to something to interrupt the tournament.